| Bournemouth 12:04 - Mar 10 with 8267 views | LRB84UK |
Sold out in 30 seconds. Me and the boy on 39 points missed out. Beyond frustrated that we'll be losing our 100% record this season! |  | | |  |
| Bournemouth on 18:40 - Mar 10 with 1341 views | Mullet |
| Bournemouth on 18:27 - Mar 10 by football |
And it is comments like this that ruin football. I'd much prefer clubs like Bourmouth (and they should not be singled out for small grounds) than a plethora of so called big clubs founded on oil money making more of a closed shop that it is. You seem to be arguing for a requirement of a certain sized ground to be allowed in the PL - or something like that. Let's just batten the hatches and close the PL shop then. There is nothing wrong with their ground - its actually not old, nice and decent facilities compared to many and I suspect for fans is better than many of the large grounds |
Who said they were great? You’re just chucking any old stuff in now. What I’m saying is very simple. Clubs are focused more and more on the armchair fans, the media circus and the money whilst proper fans are an afterthought. Especially when away fans are often charged less thanks to a cap it’s got nothing to do with anything but greed and complacency.
You and the other fella can’t even keep yourselves consistent on that. Both of you now have put words in my mouth to argue a terrible position. The idea that a club like Bournemouth can bankroll themselves to the Prem and not bother doing anything with all this time and money, can be seen as “poor them” is laughable.
The fact they’re not the only ones and happen to be who we are focussed on with the fixture list seems lost a little here too. |  |
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| Bournemouth on 18:42 - Mar 10 with 1332 views | football |
| Bournemouth on 18:32 - Mar 10 by NeedhamChris |
Have a feeling this might be more simple, and just one person who feels entitled to go to every game they want missing out on a ticket. |
I think you maybe right here Chris....but let's start a petition to boot out all clubs without a set ground size as they aren't up to scratch! Because in a few years we'll be ruled out with other bigger grounds looming. I think that's the perfect mentality to have to how successful a club is and what league they should be in.
I bet the poster also doesn't think the likes of FGR should be in the league at all | | | |
| Bournemouth on 18:53 - Mar 10 with 1292 views | algy |
| Bournemouth on 14:56 - Mar 10 by Earls_Jeans |
Where I think this is genuinely unfair is that every other club still has to hand over 3,000 seats to Bournemouth fans for their away games.
If Premier League clubs have stadiums with an away allocation of 1,300 seats, then surely that is all they should be allocated for the reverse fixture? I appreciate segregation is an issue in some stadiums so some capacity would be lost, but we ended up with that scenario in December at PR anyway as 'plucky little Bournemouth' didn't sell out their allocation. |
No what is genuinely unfair is that the 10% is capped at 3000. As a result at least 3 clubs give less than 5% of their capacity to away fans. Gives them a huge advantage in support in the ground. | |
| I was there when McKenna's ITFC won in the Premier League at Home. |
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| Bournemouth on 19:00 - Mar 10 with 1282 views | algy |
| Bournemouth on 18:12 - Mar 10 by Mullet |
No you didn’t. You read what you wanted and made a mistake. If you think it’s reasonable that clubs can become established in the most corporate league in the world and not cater to fans even a little bit, that’s fine but a weird position to take.
Allowing inconsistencies like this is why the game and the pyramid is such a mess. Fans supporting it even worse. Thank Christ the away ticket price cap came in at least. |
Shouldn't be an away ticket price cap anyway. Unfair on home fans. If away fans have the money for travel, food and beers beers beers, they can afford to pay the going rate for their tickets. | |
| I was there when McKenna's ITFC won in the Premier League at Home. |
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| Bournemouth on 19:05 - Mar 10 with 1280 views | football |
| Bournemouth on 19:00 - Mar 10 by algy |
Shouldn't be an away ticket price cap anyway. Unfair on home fans. If away fans have the money for travel, food and beers beers beers, they can afford to pay the going rate for their tickets. |
I don't disagree with this, and we paid some huge prices over the last couple of years (hello Leeds and Wednesday in particular) | | | |
| Bournemouth on 19:12 - Mar 10 with 1266 views | football |
| Bournemouth on 18:40 - Mar 10 by Mullet |
Who said they were great? You’re just chucking any old stuff in now. What I’m saying is very simple. Clubs are focused more and more on the armchair fans, the media circus and the money whilst proper fans are an afterthought. Especially when away fans are often charged less thanks to a cap it’s got nothing to do with anything but greed and complacency.
You and the other fella can’t even keep yourselves consistent on that. Both of you now have put words in my mouth to argue a terrible position. The idea that a club like Bournemouth can bankroll themselves to the Prem and not bother doing anything with all this time and money, can be seen as “poor them” is laughable.
The fact they’re not the only ones and happen to be who we are focussed on with the fixture list seems lost a little here too. |
And the question remains. You say they are doing nothing for the fans but what are they not doing? As I see it, and happy to be corrected, they are doing it for the fans. They have assessed their fan base and their ground works accordingly for them. What are you assuming they are not doing to their fans expectations (as a town fan surely you have all this intel)
As I said before, fair play to bankrolling them to the PL with less ground income - the sign of a well run club | | | |
| Bournemouth on 19:16 - Mar 10 with 1260 views | Danny_G |
| Bournemouth on 19:00 - Mar 10 by algy |
Shouldn't be an away ticket price cap anyway. Unfair on home fans. If away fans have the money for travel, food and beers beers beers, they can afford to pay the going rate for their tickets. |
But the ‘going rate’ wouldn’t be fair at all, as the vast majority of home fans have the benefit of lower ticket prices per game through having season tickets. The away price cap just sets some level of equalisation with that for regular away fans, as well as preventing them from being charged the mad matchday prices that some Premier League clubs set to capture tourists. | | | |
| Bournemouth on 19:25 - Mar 10 with 1240 views | football |
| Bournemouth on 19:16 - Mar 10 by Danny_G |
But the ‘going rate’ wouldn’t be fair at all, as the vast majority of home fans have the benefit of lower ticket prices per game through having season tickets. The away price cap just sets some level of equalisation with that for regular away fans, as well as preventing them from being charged the mad matchday prices that some Premier League clubs set to capture tourists. |
I don't that they do. take ST holders out of it, I have spurs and arsenal fans and the ticket prices are crazy, because of the amount of tourists. Literally way more than double the £30. And this is where football is flawed and needs a bigger discussion. I like the £30 cap, but if it is to work all leagues need to adopt it or none. Otherwise you just widen the gap between leagues as some of the EPL clubs may struggle to take lower income and force that on home fans or the like.
The EPL and PL should be aligned on many matters and the fact that they are not causes problems and divides | | | |
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| Bournemouth on 19:34 - Mar 10 with 1212 views | LRB84UK |
| Bournemouth on 18:42 - Mar 10 by football |
I think you maybe right here Chris....but let's start a petition to boot out all clubs without a set ground size as they aren't up to scratch! Because in a few years we'll be ruled out with other bigger grounds looming. I think that's the perfect mentality to have to how successful a club is and what league they should be in.
I bet the poster also doesn't think the likes of FGR should be in the league at all |
If you are referring to me then you are sadly mistaken. I couldn't care less that there are smaller clubs and smaller grounds. This year has shown how awful the new copy and paste grounds are. I'm lucky that I've been to the old arsenal/spurs/west ham/man city grounds where there was atmosphere and home fans, rather than just tourists.
I've been going to away games for 35 years and, until this season, have never had a problem getting a ticket. I've gone to away days with 50 ITFC fans and I love the fact that we now have a good away following. This season has been amazing. I'm just disappointed that mine and my sons 39 points weren't enough to get a ticket. I also acknowledged that we are beyond fortunate to have been able to make every game so far this season.
The older, smaller away games make for a much better day out than the soulless bowls of late. Bournemouth ground is clearly right for them. I am allowed to be disappointed that we've missed out. As a full time medical student with 12.5hour placement shifts I couldn't make every game last season but didn't miss many. It's just frustrating to have missed out by 1 point, especially if those on 30 points managed to get a ticket. It's a big gap from 30 to 39. It's what the club deemed fair and it is what it is. I posted this morning as it sold out in 30seconds. | | | |
| Bournemouth on 19:38 - Mar 10 with 1200 views | Broadbent23 |
It is ridiculous that a Premier side play in such a small stadium. Southampton is only down the road and they have a 30+k ground. Therefore the football authorities should make Bournemouth 's home matches pay per view with monies going to club, football grass roots and Premier League. It is crazy to think you can travel to Europe and be able view the match on local TV services . It is time for football supporters to be given more benefits. | | | |
| Bournemouth on 19:39 - Mar 10 with 1198 views | football |
| Bournemouth on 19:34 - Mar 10 by LRB84UK |
If you are referring to me then you are sadly mistaken. I couldn't care less that there are smaller clubs and smaller grounds. This year has shown how awful the new copy and paste grounds are. I'm lucky that I've been to the old arsenal/spurs/west ham/man city grounds where there was atmosphere and home fans, rather than just tourists.
I've been going to away games for 35 years and, until this season, have never had a problem getting a ticket. I've gone to away days with 50 ITFC fans and I love the fact that we now have a good away following. This season has been amazing. I'm just disappointed that mine and my sons 39 points weren't enough to get a ticket. I also acknowledged that we are beyond fortunate to have been able to make every game so far this season.
The older, smaller away games make for a much better day out than the soulless bowls of late. Bournemouth ground is clearly right for them. I am allowed to be disappointed that we've missed out. As a full time medical student with 12.5hour placement shifts I couldn't make every game last season but didn't miss many. It's just frustrating to have missed out by 1 point, especially if those on 30 points managed to get a ticket. It's a big gap from 30 to 39. It's what the club deemed fair and it is what it is. I posted this morning as it sold out in 30seconds. |
Not aimed at you unless you are called Mullet - totally with you on the assessment :-) | | | |
| Bournemouth on 19:41 - Mar 10 with 1193 views | football |
| Bournemouth on 19:38 - Mar 10 by Broadbent23 |
It is ridiculous that a Premier side play in such a small stadium. Southampton is only down the road and they have a 30+k ground. Therefore the football authorities should make Bournemouth 's home matches pay per view with monies going to club, football grass roots and Premier League. It is crazy to think you can travel to Europe and be able view the match on local TV services . It is time for football supporters to be given more benefits. |
FTLOG!!! Why? Why can't they play in a ground that meets their requirements? Heaven forbid they know what they need | | | |
| Bournemouth on 19:42 - Mar 10 with 1177 views | football |
| Bournemouth on 19:38 - Mar 10 by Broadbent23 |
It is ridiculous that a Premier side play in such a small stadium. Southampton is only down the road and they have a 30+k ground. Therefore the football authorities should make Bournemouth 's home matches pay per view with monies going to club, football grass roots and Premier League. It is crazy to think you can travel to Europe and be able view the match on local TV services . It is time for football supporters to be given more benefits. |
You are also aware that the city and catchment of Southampton is more than bournmouth - not that that is the deciding factor anyway | | | |
| Bournemouth on 19:49 - Mar 10 with 1155 views | LankHenners |
| Bournemouth on 19:41 - Mar 10 by football |
FTLOG!!! Why? Why can't they play in a ground that meets their requirements? Heaven forbid they know what they need |
It doesn't meet their requirements - they have several thousand more people wanting tickets than can fit in it. From early doors when he came in the owner said the stadium is not fit for purpose and needs serious upgrading or even building a new one. Either way they plan to go ahead with the plan at some point and want capacity to be around 20k. |  |
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| Bournemouth on 19:53 - Mar 10 with 1143 views | Broadbent23 |
| Bournemouth on 19:41 - Mar 10 by football |
FTLOG!!! Why? Why can't they play in a ground that meets their requirements? Heaven forbid they know what they need |
There is ample land on the outskirts of Bournemouth to build a 30k stadium. As soon as they won promotion to the PL they should have been given 12 years to build a new stadium. The EFL have basic rules for teams being promoted from the National League. Brighton are a good example they went from a tiny sports ground to a good size stadium. Premier hierarchy is biased in so many ways. | | | |
| Bournemouth on 20:00 - Mar 10 with 1130 views | Broadbent23 |
| Bournemouth on 19:42 - Mar 10 by football |
You are also aware that the city and catchment of Southampton is more than bournmouth - not that that is the deciding factor anyway |
We are little Ipswich and I bet MA will want a 40k stadium within 10 years. It is interesting that Bournemouth has better entertainment complexes than Southampton. British football is crazy in many ways. | | | |
| Bournemouth on 20:08 - Mar 10 with 1094 views | football |
| Bournemouth on 19:53 - Mar 10 by Broadbent23 |
There is ample land on the outskirts of Bournemouth to build a 30k stadium. As soon as they won promotion to the PL they should have been given 12 years to build a new stadium. The EFL have basic rules for teams being promoted from the National League. Brighton are a good example they went from a tiny sports ground to a good size stadium. Premier hierarchy is biased in so many ways. |
1) why?
2) have you assessed the local plan and the planning policies on a new ground in terms of acceptability of new sites | | | |
| Bournemouth on 21:36 - Mar 10 with 1008 views | Mat |
| Bournemouth on 14:56 - Mar 10 by Earls_Jeans |
Where I think this is genuinely unfair is that every other club still has to hand over 3,000 seats to Bournemouth fans for their away games.
If Premier League clubs have stadiums with an away allocation of 1,300 seats, then surely that is all they should be allocated for the reverse fixture? I appreciate segregation is an issue in some stadiums so some capacity would be lost, but we ended up with that scenario in December at PR anyway as 'plucky little Bournemouth' didn't sell out their allocation. |
It’s exactly that which is the point. They should never be provided with more than 1300 away tickets. Tinpot | | | |
| Bournemouth on 21:38 - Mar 10 with 1006 views | Mat |
| Bournemouth on 13:26 - Mar 10 by football |
Other clubs would like more if they could. I dont like the slating other clubs just because they have smaller grounds - seems somewhat arrogant of us |
Fair enough but shouldn’t be an obligation to give them more than1300 tickets in return. | | | |
| Bournemouth on 21:44 - Mar 10 with 983 views | football |
| Bournemouth on 19:53 - Mar 10 by Broadbent23 |
There is ample land on the outskirts of Bournemouth to build a 30k stadium. As soon as they won promotion to the PL they should have been given 12 years to build a new stadium. The EFL have basic rules for teams being promoted from the National League. Brighton are a good example they went from a tiny sports ground to a good size stadium. Premier hierarchy is biased in so many ways. |
a) what if they didn't want that
b) have you checked the local plan for the acceptability of developing on this land? A small minor point but pretty sure it would conflict with the plan
c) the day we get in a dictatorship of what clubs need to do then we are in a worse mess than at the moment | | | |
| Bournemouth on 21:47 - Mar 10 with 970 views | SitfcB |
| Bournemouth on 19:00 - Mar 10 by algy |
Shouldn't be an away ticket price cap anyway. Unfair on home fans. If away fans have the money for travel, food and beers beers beers, they can afford to pay the going rate for their tickets. |
Don’t talk sh!te. |  |
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| Bournemouth on 21:50 - Mar 10 with 964 views | SitfcB |
| Bournemouth on 19:05 - Mar 10 by football |
I don't disagree with this, and we paid some huge prices over the last couple of years (hello Leeds and Wednesday in particular) |
Don’t be stupid.
…and why are you so fierce in sticking up for Bournemouth?
They should’ve upgraded their stadium a long time ago.
Pathetic away allocation for a Premier League game. | |
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| Bournemouth on 21:54 - Mar 10 with 943 views | VanDusen |
| Bournemouth on 19:41 - Mar 10 by football |
FTLOG!!! Why? Why can't they play in a ground that meets their requirements? Heaven forbid they know what they need |
Absolutely - and when they don't fill it we sing "your ground's too big for you" like Wigan ... | | | |
| Bournemouth on 05:27 - Mar 11 with 753 views | brogansnose |
| Bournemouth on 21:50 - Mar 10 by SitfcB |
Don’t be stupid.
…and why are you so fierce in sticking up for Bournemouth?
They should’ve upgraded their stadium a long time ago.
Pathetic away allocation for a Premier League game. |
Probably Bully in disguise. |  | | |
| Bournemouth on 07:02 - Mar 11 with 700 views | NeedhamChris |
| Bournemouth on 21:50 - Mar 10 by SitfcB |
Don’t be stupid.
…and why are you so fierce in sticking up for Bournemouth?
They should’ve upgraded their stadium a long time ago.
Pathetic away allocation for a Premier League game. |
Did you get a ticket? | |
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