| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. 10:52 - Mar 16 with 4124 views | NeedhamChris |
Now that the season is just about done with (barring huge Man City deduction), rather looking forward to what will hopefully be another successful Championship campaign.
I still think it would have been better all round if McKenna had taken the Brighton job, he'd have left on the highest of highs and whilst some were upset at him for considering it - he'd have deserved it. However - he is also the best possible man for getting us back up so now the hope of staying in the Prem has gone, I'm hoping he stays.
However - if after that he leaves this summer - what will the point have been? I hope he repays the loyalty the club has shown him, and waits 12 more months for a bigger job. [Post edited 16 Mar 10:53]
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:38 - Mar 16 with 879 views | VanDusen |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:22 - Mar 16 by Denny32 |
I'm not too bothered if he leaves or let go . We need fresh ideas and someone who can see its blatant obvious we need bigger powerful players and foreign as well .its all very well to say mckenna will get us back to premiership, but if he is going to be using the same formula again..it will be only another torturous year in premier league..I don't think mckenna will learn from his mistakes ..a stubborn streak in him. And don't want to be ..reminding off ..I told you so !!.. |
He built a team in League One capable of not only mixing it in the present Championship, but getting auto-promotion. See how Derby, Portsmouth and Oxford are faring (not to mention Sheff Wed and Plymouth last year) to get a sense of how impressive that was. Unfortunately this success meant he's had no time and transfer windows etc. to develop a team in the Championship that knows each other well enough to be capable of competing to stay in the Premier League. So that's kind of what we've been doing this season - and doing a better job of it than Southampton and to some extent Leicester: both of whom let's not forget started from the position of a decade of Premier League payments (and in the latter case UEFA Super League money!) as well as parachutes last year.
This season was a free hit. As I've said on here before, I'm sure the original plan two years ago was to push for promotion next season. Well - we're in a much much stronger position to do that now than we could ever have expected to be back then... | | | |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:43 - Mar 16 with 861 views | ITFCBlues |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:22 - Mar 16 by Denny32 |
I'm not too bothered if he leaves or let go . We need fresh ideas and someone who can see its blatant obvious we need bigger powerful players and foreign as well .its all very well to say mckenna will get us back to premiership, but if he is going to be using the same formula again..it will be only another torturous year in premier league..I don't think mckenna will learn from his mistakes ..a stubborn streak in him. And don't want to be ..reminding off ..I told you so !!.. |
What a load of rubbish, honestly.
KM has produced absoloute wonders. We had zero right to win promotion last season, shouldn't have even been in the picture. I'm pretty sure the club knew this season was going to be very very difficult hence the recruitment policy we adopted. Not to mention, we've moved so fast that areas of the club couldn't keep up, like scouting of the foreign market. Do you think KM has said, let's completely avoid the foreign market, or do you think that's more down to the fact he's moved the club so far forward so rapidly that we just didn't have the structure in place to allow foreign recruitment? |  |
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:47 - Mar 16 with 836 views | ITFCBlues |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:38 - Mar 16 by VanDusen |
He built a team in League One capable of not only mixing it in the present Championship, but getting auto-promotion. See how Derby, Portsmouth and Oxford are faring (not to mention Sheff Wed and Plymouth last year) to get a sense of how impressive that was. Unfortunately this success meant he's had no time and transfer windows etc. to develop a team in the Championship that knows each other well enough to be capable of competing to stay in the Premier League. So that's kind of what we've been doing this season - and doing a better job of it than Southampton and to some extent Leicester: both of whom let's not forget started from the position of a decade of Premier League payments (and in the latter case UEFA Super League money!) as well as parachutes last year.
This season was a free hit. As I've said on here before, I'm sure the original plan two years ago was to push for promotion next season. Well - we're in a much much stronger position to do that now than we could ever have expected to be back then... |
Quite! Think people are just massively deluded about what a realistic expectation for this season was.
We've signed some top Championship players and will be right up there next season.
Just can't get my head around people that want him to leave after what he's done the last 3 years. We've started this season miles off of any other prem side in terms of wage budget etc and it would've been KMs biggest achievement keeping this squad up | |
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:07 - Mar 16 with 805 views | Bobbychase |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:16 - Mar 16 by FrimleyBlue |
Come on Bobby. Absolutely this season was a free hit. But after spending our whole prem TV money on a squad for next season. 30 mill on new training ground and then being only 1 of maybe 3 parachute clubs. The owners will 100% expect autos as any club would.
Holding KM accountable during next season doesn't mean what's happened in the past hasn't happened. But IF it doesn't look we are where we need to be, absolutely the owners would need to look at it. |
Two words for you
Birmingham
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:08 - Mar 16 with 804 views | Bobbychase |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:30 - Mar 16 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
You dont think McKenna is learning as well?
He is 38 years old, this is his 3rd full season as a manager and you have written him off as a premier league manager already, because we are going to get relegated after back to back promotions to the premier league.
Shame on you. |
Exactly. And if we got rid of him we'd go straight out and try and find someone like him. It would be pointless. | |
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:09 - Mar 16 with 801 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:30 - Mar 16 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
You dont think McKenna is learning as well?
He is 38 years old, this is his 3rd full season as a manager and you have written him off as a premier league manager already, because we are going to get relegated after back to back promotions to the premier league.
Shame on you. |
To be fair, I think Denny gave up on McKenna in League 1. |  |
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:12 - Mar 16 with 779 views | FrimleyBlue |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:07 - Mar 16 by Bobbychase |
Two words for you
Birmingham
Wrexham |
What about them? Brum yeah will be up there. Wrexham imo won't as they will be under different financial restrictions than they have been. |  |
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:16 - Mar 16 with 786 views | Bobbychase |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:12 - Mar 16 by FrimleyBlue |
What about them? Brum yeah will be up there. Wrexham imo won't as they will be under different financial restrictions than they have been. |
I keep waiting for Wrexham to run out of steam. Not happened yet. My point is I think we will be strong contenders for automatics as I think we are in better shape than Southampton and certainly Leicester but one and possibly two out of Leeds, Sheff Utd, Burnley and Sunderland will still be there and if Wrexham and Brum come up then it's going to make the Championship an absolute circus next season.
Mentioning the £30m training ground actually undermines your stance on McKenna. He has personally been involved in designing it, as Ashton says, so why would the owners ditch him when it won't even be finished? And the training ground itself is a long-term project, we won't see the benefits for maybe years. Sometimes you have to be patient to see a project come to fruition in football and we are only at the start of what Gamechanger say they want to achieve here. | |
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:24 - Mar 16 with 772 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:16 - Mar 16 by Bobbychase |
I keep waiting for Wrexham to run out of steam. Not happened yet. My point is I think we will be strong contenders for automatics as I think we are in better shape than Southampton and certainly Leicester but one and possibly two out of Leeds, Sheff Utd, Burnley and Sunderland will still be there and if Wrexham and Brum come up then it's going to make the Championship an absolute circus next season.
Mentioning the £30m training ground actually undermines your stance on McKenna. He has personally been involved in designing it, as Ashton says, so why would the owners ditch him when it won't even be finished? And the training ground itself is a long-term project, we won't see the benefits for maybe years. Sometimes you have to be patient to see a project come to fruition in football and we are only at the start of what Gamechanger say they want to achieve here. |
The truth is that if we are progressing we will need to be finishing ahead of the likes of Brum, Wrexham, Leeds, Sheffield United, etc. If we cannot do that next season, we will be in no better position to face the challenge of matching the likes of Tottenham, Wolves, West Ham and Everton the following one.
If we are unable to build to stay up in the Premier League, there isn't really any point in getting promoted to it! | |
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| No subject on 16:31 - Mar 16 with 757 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| No subject on 10:55 - Mar 16 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
I’m at ease with McKenna leaving in that sometimes a fresh perspective isn’t a bad thing, equally so long as we never end up in League One, he’s got a job for life here as far as I am concerned. I think if he gave us the bulk of his career he’d eventually turn us into something again. |
I just don't get this way of thinking - but then again I come from a different generation of football. One that was often more patient and less entitled.
Take Sir Alex Ferguson and Sir Bobby Robson. Both struggled in their first 3 or 4 seasons in charge in the top flight before they built the squad and the style that was successful.
Most managerial merry-go-rounds are due to ownership pressure and a desire for a 'quick-fix'. If, as we are told, Gamechanger are in this for the long run and see this as a phased project to build an established Premier League club, then there will be no pressure to part ways with McKenna.
If McKenna wants to leave, then sobeit, but I would want him to stay and build a legacy. [Post edited 16 Mar 16:34]
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:43 - Mar 16 with 727 views | ITFCBlues |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:24 - Mar 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The truth is that if we are progressing we will need to be finishing ahead of the likes of Brum, Wrexham, Leeds, Sheffield United, etc. If we cannot do that next season, we will be in no better position to face the challenge of matching the likes of Tottenham, Wolves, West Ham and Everton the following one.
If we are unable to build to stay up in the Premier League, there isn't really any point in getting promoted to it! |
I'd say there is a 150m reasons to get promoted to it myself... | |
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 19:50 - Mar 16 with 648 views | Bobbychase |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:43 - Mar 16 by ITFCBlues |
I'd say there is a 150m reasons to get promoted to it myself... |
This. The extreme wealth gap dictates the need for promotion. I wish it wasn't the case as I hate VAR, tourist fans and the saturation of bloggers that comes with the Prem, but we need to be in it. | |
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| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 22:50 - Mar 16 with 560 views | VanDusen |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 16:07 - Mar 16 by Bobbychase |
Two words for you
Birmingham
Wrexham |
Wrexham are about to meet exactly the same dilemma as us. Three promotions is incredible if they hold on. But they will finally start to come up against bigger boys with similar pockets next season. They've not really been on Birmingham's heels this season and whilst I'm sure they will challenge it won't be next season I wouldn't think... | | | |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 08:07 - Mar 17 with 439 views | Churchman |
| This season is done - hopefully McKenna sticks around for the next one. on 15:43 - Mar 16 by ITFCBlues |
What a load of rubbish, honestly.
KM has produced absoloute wonders. We had zero right to win promotion last season, shouldn't have even been in the picture. I'm pretty sure the club knew this season was going to be very very difficult hence the recruitment policy we adopted. Not to mention, we've moved so fast that areas of the club couldn't keep up, like scouting of the foreign market. Do you think KM has said, let's completely avoid the foreign market, or do you think that's more down to the fact he's moved the club so far forward so rapidly that we just didn't have the structure in place to allow foreign recruitment? |
I agree with this post. I seriously doubt the club expected us to do so well last season. It completely outpaced the growing of the other elements of the football club from scouting to facilities. I think some completely fail to understand how destroyed this club was when Evans scuttled off.
It is important to mark progress because it helps with perspective and knowing how to move forward. I like the ambition of how the club tried to bridge the gap playing wise. So much better than not trying.
Ok, it’s failed and it’s the moment for the cheering dismals to fill their boots with abusing players and now tucking in to the manager. Everyone likes the excitement of a new manager. Bit like opening a present at Christmas. Who will it be etc? Sky transfer deadline day yellow tie style excitement waiting for the unveiling of Danny Bigbollx with the obligatory scarf.
This though misses the point. From where the club was when Cook was drowning in coffee cups and simmering rage to where we are now, who better to take us forward next season than McKenna? He is three years wiser and knows how to build a team that not only wins, but wins well. Yes, he’s made mistakes thus season. Only people that do s0d all don’t. But given the kind of person he appears to be, I bet his learned from them.
Whether he stays or goes depends on him and him alone as far as I’m concerned. Does he want to be here; does he want a new challenge; what are his alternatives. Everyone has a lifespan in any job. I hope he stays and helps this club rebuild some momentum and continue to develop off the field as well as on it.
If he decides to move on, sad though that’d be, nobody is bigger than the club and hopefully the CEO has succession planning in place. [Post edited 17 Mar 8:15]
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