| Visiting America on 12:52 - Apr 1 with 772 views | itfcjoe |
| Visiting America on 11:55 - Apr 1 by Herbivore |
So what does the term mean now? Because to me that's still exactly what woke means and it makes no sense to apply it to Trump and MAGA. What they are doing is just outright old fashioned authoritarianism. |
Take your pick
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/woke-right/681716/
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/20/opinion/the-long-strange-trail-of-woke.html
But basically prescribing what words can and can't be used, 'cancelling' those who don't comply, and basically seeing businesses kowtow to adjust to what the campaigners want and what those seen to be in power dictate.
The 'power' has changed in the US now, and I think this line from the Atlantic piece sums it up "The compelled politesse of the left has been swapped out for the reflexive and gratuitous disrespect of the right." |  |
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| Visiting America on 12:59 - Apr 1 with 742 views | Herbivore |
That Athletic article is also simply misusing the term woke as well so not sure what you think that proves. It's an opinion piece you seem to agree with but it's not evidence of anything. There's a lot of false equivalence going on at the moment which is actually quite dangerous, shame to see so many not just falling for it but actively perpetuating it. [Post edited 1 Apr 16:03]
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| Visiting America on 13:38 - Apr 1 with 701 views | Ryorry |
| Visiting America on 11:02 - Apr 1 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It's also worth knowing that US passport holders have an obligation to file taxes every year in the USA.
It can take years, but they do track people down eventually. |
Hah! I'll remember that, though iirc (which I might not ...), not everyone takes it seriously ...
Edit - I'd better add that I'm referring to contemporary big businesses re the above, not any individuals or my Dad. [Post edited 1 Apr 16:11]
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| Visiting America on 14:12 - Apr 1 with 649 views | DJR |
| Visiting America on 12:59 - Apr 1 by Herbivore |
That Athletic article is also simply misusing the term woke as well so not sure what you think that proves. It's an opinion piece you seem to agree with but it's not evidence of anything. There's a lot of false equivalence going on at the moment which is actually quite dangerous, shame to see so many not just falling for it but actively perpetuating it. [Post edited 1 Apr 16:03]
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"Woke" has been misappropriated by the right and is used pejoratively by them. It has ceased to have any really sensible meaning apart, and is often used just to describe some modern development that the user doesn't like. [Post edited 1 Apr 15:08]
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| Visiting America on 14:52 - Apr 1 with 595 views | iamatractorboy |
| Visiting America on 14:12 - Apr 1 by DJR |
"Woke" has been misappropriated by the right and is used pejoratively by them. It has ceased to have any really sensible meaning apart, and is often used just to describe some modern development that the user doesn't like. [Post edited 1 Apr 15:08]
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I think the right's definition of it would be 'depriving a (straight) white man of his rightfully superior position', or something similar. |  | | |
| Visiting America on 14:56 - Apr 1 with 582 views | Herbivore |
| Visiting America on 14:52 - Apr 1 by iamatractorboy |
I think the right's definition of it would be 'depriving a (straight) white man of his rightfully superior position', or something similar. |
Or simply challenging a straight white man when they say something people might find inappropriate. | |
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| Visiting America on 15:20 - Apr 1 with 546 views | itfcjoe |
| Visiting America on 14:12 - Apr 1 by DJR |
"Woke" has been misappropriated by the right and is used pejoratively by them. It has ceased to have any really sensible meaning apart, and is often used just to describe some modern development that the user doesn't like. [Post edited 1 Apr 15:08]
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It's always been used pejoratively, nobody was ever describing themselves as 'woke' and if they were deserved to be ridiculed for it | |
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| Visiting America on 15:23 - Apr 1 with 540 views | DJR |
| Visiting America on 15:20 - Apr 1 by itfcjoe |
It's always been used pejoratively, nobody was ever describing themselves as 'woke' and if they were deserved to be ridiculed for it |
I don't think that's right.
This from Wikipedia.
Woke is an adjective derived from African-American English used since the 1930s or earlier to refer to awareness of racial prejudice and discrimination, often in the construction stay woke. The term acquired political connotations by the 1970s and gained further popularity in the 2010s with the hashtag #staywoke. [Post edited 1 Apr 15:24]
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| Visiting America on 15:38 - Apr 1 with 507 views | itfcjoe |
| Visiting America on 15:23 - Apr 1 by DJR |
I don't think that's right.
This from Wikipedia.
Woke is an adjective derived from African-American English used since the 1930s or earlier to refer to awareness of racial prejudice and discrimination, often in the construction stay woke. The term acquired political connotations by the 1970s and gained further popularity in the 2010s with the hashtag #staywoke. [Post edited 1 Apr 15:24]
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I'm only really talking about in the last few years, guess the 2010-2015 period as noted on the Wiki didn't really touch my consciousness | |
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| Visiting America on 16:05 - Apr 1 with 464 views | Herbivore |
| Visiting America on 15:20 - Apr 1 by itfcjoe |
It's always been used pejoratively, nobody was ever describing themselves as 'woke' and if they were deserved to be ridiculed for it |
Why would a term for being conscious of social injustice and discrimination be used pejoratively or be worthy of ridicule? That's probably something that's worth giving some thought to. | |
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| Visiting America on 16:08 - Apr 1 with 450 views | DJR |
Further examples of free speech, USA-style.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/01/new-book-bans-library-schools
There are at least 112 proposed state bills concerning school – and public – libraries that seek to expand the definition of what is deemed obscene or “harmful to minors” and to limit librarian staff’s ability to determine which books are in their collections, according to the American Library Association. | | | |
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