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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking 13:29 - Mar 22 with 3263 viewsBent_double

Israel have blown up Gazas only cancer hospital

Germany, France, UK ‘appalled’ by Gaza civilian casualties, urge ceasefire return

Not that it will change anything.

https://www.aljazeera.com/

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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 14:21 - Mar 22 with 3148 viewsnoggin

"Israel confirmed it destroyed the cancer hospital, claiming it was used by Hamas – without providing any evidence."

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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 14:42 - Mar 22 with 3119 viewsmellowblue

I really do not get why Israel get more or less a free ride with Western governments. Is it some sort of repressed holocaust guilt thing. Does not seem logical. How much blood needs to be let to atone for a few tens of dead or kidnpped at a festival.
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:04 - Mar 22 with 3046 viewsJ2BLUE

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 14:42 - Mar 22 by mellowblue

I really do not get why Israel get more or less a free ride with Western governments. Is it some sort of repressed holocaust guilt thing. Does not seem logical. How much blood needs to be let to atone for a few tens of dead or kidnpped at a festival.


It's not just a few tens is it?

Innocent people were raped, killed, tortured and kidnapped. That does not need to be downplayed to condemn the Israeli government for their disgusting actions.

Truly impaired.
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:13 - Mar 22 with 2999 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 14:42 - Mar 22 by mellowblue

I really do not get why Israel get more or less a free ride with Western governments. Is it some sort of repressed holocaust guilt thing. Does not seem logical. How much blood needs to be let to atone for a few tens of dead or kidnpped at a festival.


That's an appalling comment the way you have phrased it.

I agree Israel should be held accountable for what it is doing which is outrageous, disproportionate and nothing short of ethnic cleansing.

However, to describe the atrocity in October with that statement is outrageous.
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:15 - Mar 22 with 2985 viewsbsw72

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 14:42 - Mar 22 by mellowblue

I really do not get why Israel get more or less a free ride with Western governments. Is it some sort of repressed holocaust guilt thing. Does not seem logical. How much blood needs to be let to atone for a few tens of dead or kidnpped at a festival.


I think you need to reconsider how you have phrased that, it’s pretty crass.
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:17 - Mar 22 with 2956 viewsEireannach_gorm

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:13 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue

That's an appalling comment the way you have phrased it.

I agree Israel should be held accountable for what it is doing which is outrageous, disproportionate and nothing short of ethnic cleansing.

However, to describe the atrocity in October with that statement is outrageous.
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Not as appealing as what Israel are doing. What is the ratio of dead civilians now, 40 to 1 or more?
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:21 - Mar 22 with 2929 viewsmellowblue

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:15 - Mar 22 by bsw72

I think you need to reconsider how you have phrased that, it’s pretty crass.


Nah, no chance, not rephrasing. Crass it might be, but the point is valid. The devastation to the lives of 2 million, is it, is out of proportion to the original incidents.
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:22 - Mar 22 with 2911 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:17 - Mar 22 by Eireannach_gorm

Not as appealing as what Israel are doing. What is the ratio of dead civilians now, 40 to 1 or more?


It's not a competition and anyone who is turning it into one is as bad as Hamas and Netanyahu.

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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:28 - Mar 22 with 2899 viewsbsw72

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:21 - Mar 22 by mellowblue

Nah, no chance, not rephrasing. Crass it might be, but the point is valid. The devastation to the lives of 2 million, is it, is out of proportion to the original incidents.


I get the sentiment but lives lost aren’t interchangeable numbers. Reducing all the human suffering to just numbers and ratios dehumanises the individuals who have lost their lives.

Everything in the conflict is wrong on both sides and the level of suffering is incomprehensible irrelevant of the number of lives lost.
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:38 - Mar 22 with 2831 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:28 - Mar 22 by bsw72

I get the sentiment but lives lost aren’t interchangeable numbers. Reducing all the human suffering to just numbers and ratios dehumanises the individuals who have lost their lives.

Everything in the conflict is wrong on both sides and the level of suffering is incomprehensible irrelevant of the number of lives lost.


I can't begin to imagine the horrors some people are living with in all these situations. How can some people lack the empathy to see that?
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 16:55 - Mar 22 with 2675 viewsSwansea_Blue

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 14:21 - Mar 22 by noggin

"Israel confirmed it destroyed the cancer hospital, claiming it was used by Hamas – without providing any evidence."


I’m always surprised that they think anyone else will believe that attempted defence to be justifiable. Even if it was true that Hamas we’re using it as a base (and they couple have been), surely any sane and vaguely decent person in that situation would think ‘hang on, maybe we shouldn’t knowingly murder innocent civilians that are being used as a shield. We need to find another way”.

But they won’t think that because they deny the existence of Palestine and so deny the right to life of any Palestinians. Any.

It’s genocide.

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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 17:54 - Mar 22 with 2557 viewsmellowblue

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:28 - Mar 22 by bsw72

I get the sentiment but lives lost aren’t interchangeable numbers. Reducing all the human suffering to just numbers and ratios dehumanises the individuals who have lost their lives.

Everything in the conflict is wrong on both sides and the level of suffering is incomprehensible irrelevant of the number of lives lost.


by using this to spout philosophical arguments you are trivialising the whole sad saga.
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 18:45 - Mar 22 with 2461 viewsLeoMuff

It’s incredible hypocrisy that Trump can throw a hissy fit about Ikraine and prolonged killing, while 50000 people have been killed in Gaza - not a peep

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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 19:36 - Mar 22 with 2374 viewsEireannach_gorm

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 18:45 - Mar 22 by LeoMuff

It’s incredible hypocrisy that Trump can throw a hissy fit about Ikraine and prolonged killing, while 50000 people have been killed in Gaza - not a peep


Fuelled by the huge military aid given to Isreal by the US. No chance he will be cutting that off to force a settlement ( if you pardon the pun 😞 ).
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 11:48 - Mar 23 with 1942 viewsbsw72

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 17:54 - Mar 22 by mellowblue

by using this to spout philosophical arguments you are trivialising the whole sad saga.


10/10 for the irony, assume it was deliberate.
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 13:38 - Mar 23 with 1799 viewsleitrimblue

Obviously Israel as a right to protect itself. And the only way it can achieve that is through the murder of tens of thousands of innocent children, women and the elderly.

No ceasefire til anyone who as ever held a Hamas like thought is annihilated. Or some other nonsense to justify and excuse genocide.

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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:17 - Mar 23 with 1664 viewsbournemouthblue

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 14:42 - Mar 22 by mellowblue

I really do not get why Israel get more or less a free ride with Western governments. Is it some sort of repressed holocaust guilt thing. Does not seem logical. How much blood needs to be let to atone for a few tens of dead or kidnpped at a festival.


It's very simple, the US provide them with a lot of military hardware and also there's a lot of voting power in parts of the US with the Jewish populations

That's not a conspiracy theory, thats just reality

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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:37 - Mar 23 with 1604 viewsBlueschev

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:17 - Mar 23 by bournemouthblue

It's very simple, the US provide them with a lot of military hardware and also there's a lot of voting power in parts of the US with the Jewish populations

That's not a conspiracy theory, thats just reality


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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:42 - Mar 23 with 1576 viewsDJR

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:17 - Mar 23 by bournemouthblue

It's very simple, the US provide them with a lot of military hardware and also there's a lot of voting power in parts of the US with the Jewish populations

That's not a conspiracy theory, thats just reality


The position of the Jewish community is much more nuanced than that. And most American Jews did not vote for Trump.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/02/how-us-jews-are-experiencing-

https://www.timesofisrael.com/horrific-or-major-step-to-peace-us-jewish-groups-r
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Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:46 - Mar 23 with 1549 viewsbournemouthblue

Finally, the government is saying what the rest of us are thinking on 15:42 - Mar 23 by DJR

The position of the Jewish community is much more nuanced than that. And most American Jews did not vote for Trump.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/02/how-us-jews-are-experiencing-

https://www.timesofisrael.com/horrific-or-major-step-to-peace-us-jewish-groups-r


I'd very much hope they aren't voting for Trump, given the dark right wing undertones he is linked with

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