| That is simply wrong 15:38 - Apr 5 with 3004 views | redrickstuhaart |
Once he tries to play it and there is a problem, it is a new phase and he is entitled to save it. Not a back pass. |  | | |  |
| That is simply wrong on 15:40 - Apr 5 with 2392 views | redrickstuhaart |
Since when is encoraching on a FK a yellow? Lets see the same standard now applied the other way on all kicks.... | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:42 - Apr 5 with 2309 views | BarcaBlue |
It's a clear back pass that he couldn't touch with his hands. No doubts at all and you don't get second phases. |  | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:43 - Apr 5 with 2276 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| That is simply wrong on 15:40 - Apr 5 by redrickstuhaart |
Since when is encoraching on a FK a yellow? Lets see the same standard now applied the other way on all kicks.... |
I would have thought that deliberately handling a back pass to prevent a goal should have been one! Clearly glad it wasn't (although very few refs would then have given a second for the encroachment in that situation).
EDIT: Sky have explained with this: So why wasn't it a red card for deliberate handball?
Under the FA's Laws of the Game, there is no further punishment than an indirect free-kick.
"If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded but there is no disciplinary sanction." [Post edited 5 Apr 15:45]
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| That is simply wrong on 15:44 - Apr 5 with 2267 views | Garv |
Didn't Hladky have the exact same situation last season? Preston? Nothing came of that I think. |  |
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| That is simply wrong on 15:44 - Apr 5 with 2243 views | redrickstuhaart |
| That is simply wrong on 15:42 - Apr 5 by BarcaBlue |
It's a clear back pass that he couldn't touch with his hands. No doubts at all and you don't get second phases. |
Its no longer a back pass. Its a mistake by the keeper- not setting himself up. If he touched it. If he didnt, then probably fair enough. | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:46 - Apr 5 with 2173 views | redrickstuhaart |
| That is simply wrong on 15:44 - Apr 5 by redrickstuhaart |
Its no longer a back pass. Its a mistake by the keeper- not setting himself up. If he touched it. If he didnt, then probably fair enough. |
Also a wolves player was just within 10 yards of the free kick. Yellow card please. | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:46 - Apr 5 with 2165 views | BarcaBlue |
| That is simply wrong on 15:44 - Apr 5 by redrickstuhaart |
Its no longer a back pass. Its a mistake by the keeper- not setting himself up. If he touched it. If he didnt, then probably fair enough. |
That makes no sense whether he touched it or not. It was a back pass that was handled. | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:46 - Apr 5 with 2164 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| That is simply wrong on 15:44 - Apr 5 by Garv |
Didn't Hladky have the exact same situation last season? Preston? Nothing came of that I think. |
Indirect free kicks inside the area nearly always simply end up with a blocked shot and nothing more. Frequently a corner to defend after that. | |
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| That is simply wrong on 15:49 - Apr 5 with 2101 views | redrickstuhaart |
| That is simply wrong on 15:46 - Apr 5 by BarcaBlue |
That makes no sense whether he touched it or not. It was a back pass that was handled. |
Nope. If he touched it, he's not picking up a backpass, hes picking up something he touched last. You cant deliberately set yourself up to pick it up. But a mistake like that is not setting yourself up. | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:50 - Apr 5 with 2077 views | SitfcB |
Two issues for me…
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| That is simply wrong on 15:50 - Apr 5 with 2070 views | NedPlimpton |
That would be a ridiculous rule
You'd just have goalkeepers constantly taking a small touch then picking it up and time wasting. Would make a complete joke of the back-pass rule |  | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:51 - Apr 5 with 2020 views | redrickstuhaart |
| That is simply wrong on 15:50 - Apr 5 by NedPlimpton |
That would be a ridiculous rule
You'd just have goalkeepers constantly taking a small touch then picking it up and time wasting. Would make a complete joke of the back-pass rule |
No- because that is deliberately setting yourself up. Which you cant do. Same as a defender cant juggle it and then head it back. | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:51 - Apr 5 with 2001 views | BarcaBlue |
| That is simply wrong on 15:49 - Apr 5 by redrickstuhaart |
Nope. If he touched it, he's not picking up a backpass, hes picking up something he touched last. You cant deliberately set yourself up to pick it up. But a mistake like that is not setting yourself up. |
You're clutching at straws. What would stop him then from just flicking the ball into his hands from a back pass? The ref was clearly right. | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:51 - Apr 5 with 2000 views | StokieBlue |
By this logic, every keeper would "try" to play it then pick it up.
Was a clear back pass freekick for me.
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| That is simply wrong on 15:52 - Apr 5 with 1961 views | redrickstuhaart |
| That is simply wrong on 15:51 - Apr 5 by BarcaBlue |
You're clutching at straws. What would stop him then from just flicking the ball into his hands from a back pass? The ref was clearly right. |
Again- that is deliberately setting yourself up and not allowed. | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:52 - Apr 5 with 1952 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
You're very wrong. |  |
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| That is simply wrong on 15:53 - Apr 5 with 1934 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| That is simply wrong on 15:50 - Apr 5 by NedPlimpton |
That would be a ridiculous rule
You'd just have goalkeepers constantly taking a small touch then picking it up and time wasting. Would make a complete joke of the back-pass rule |
It's strange watching old matches where the keeper rolls the ball out to a defender who kicks it back to him and he picks it up again.
Can you imagine modern football with that when a team is trying to see the game out? | |
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| That is simply wrong on 15:53 - Apr 5 with 1931 views | Garv |
| That is simply wrong on 15:46 - Apr 5 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Indirect free kicks inside the area nearly always simply end up with a blocked shot and nothing more. Frequently a corner to defend after that. |
No, I mean no decision was made. It was play on, I think?
Isn't it a question of whether the keeper attempted a touch? He clearly did... | |
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| That is simply wrong on 15:54 - Apr 5 with 1859 views | Smoresy |
Great fun is what it was (haven't seen your new phase talk in the rulebook before)! And Sitters if the foul takes place inside the six-yard zone then the FK is taken on that line. | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 15:55 - Apr 5 with 1829 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| That is simply wrong on 15:53 - Apr 5 by Garv |
No, I mean no decision was made. It was play on, I think?
Isn't it a question of whether the keeper attempted a touch? He clearly did... |
Clearly not meant as a reply to me. | |
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| That is simply wrong on 15:59 - Apr 5 with 1745 views | Oldsmoker |
| That is simply wrong on 15:40 - Apr 5 by redrickstuhaart |
Since when is encoraching on a FK a yellow? Lets see the same standard now applied the other way on all kicks.... |
Palmer can't time-waste.
That would get a yellow from the Ref and a red.
Palmers already picked up yellows for time-wasting before - in the refs view only.
Don't want him missing a game.
Walton is sub goalie. |  |
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| That is simply wrong on 16:02 - Apr 5 with 1698 views | Wacko |
Everyone is saying the OP is wrong but he's right:
An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:
- touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
- it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
- receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11 | |
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| That is simply wrong on 16:06 - Apr 5 with 1633 views | BarcaBlue |
| That is simply wrong on 16:02 - Apr 5 by Wacko |
Everyone is saying the OP is wrong but he's right:
An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:
- touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
- it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
- receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11 |
He's not right, Palmer didn't try to release it into play, the ball rolled under his boot. | | | |
| That is simply wrong on 16:06 - Apr 5 with 1634 views | Smoresy |
| That is simply wrong on 16:02 - Apr 5 by Wacko |
Everyone is saying the OP is wrong but he's right:
An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:
- touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
- it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
- receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11 |
I would say that confirms he's wrong Wacko, because Palmer wasn't clearly kicking or attempting to kick the ball to release it into play. He was trying to take possession of the ball and it went horribly wrong.
All's well that ends well though! [Post edited 5 Apr 16:07]
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| That is simply wrong on 16:07 - Apr 5 with 1631 views | redrickstuhaart |
| That is simply wrong on 16:02 - Apr 5 by Wacko |
Everyone is saying the OP is wrong but he's right:
An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:
- touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
- it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
- receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11 |
I was about to post Law 12 myself :-)
Its absolutely clear. Ref was wrong. Also gave an unreasonable yellow before the fk.
Reffing is tough. But knowing the relatively short rules properly ought not to be beyond them. [Post edited 5 Apr 16:07]
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