| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. 07:35 - Apr 24 with 11109 views | Luk38644 |
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| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 07:55 - Apr 25 with 956 views | Herbivore |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 07:48 - Apr 25 by DJR |
Oh for a return to the days when women didn't play football, there were virtually no black players and those that there were got racial abuse.
The thing is that Reform share the same sort of disdain for DEI as Trump, and look where that has ended up with clearly hopeless white men (such as RFK, Hesgeth) doing immeasurable damage.
And you don't get much more white privilege than Lowe (Radley), Tice (Uppingham) and Farage (Dulwich College).
As with Trump and his multi-millionaire backers, they're having a laugh. [Post edited 25 Apr 7:53]
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I think when you're a below average white man who has only managed to get where they've got in life by being a below average white man from a privileged background, you worry that people who aren't below average white men being given a chance might not end well for you. For these grifters, everything is about preserving and furthering a system that benefits them and them alone. |  |
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| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 08:34 - Apr 25 with 878 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 09:35 - Apr 24 by MattinLondon |
A few people will probably get upset about this but it’s a PL initiative designed to help people who are underrepresented in football.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/2200292
It’s funded by the PL and has been backed by Governments (both Labour and Tory). The underlying aim is ‘that after their placements, CIDS coaches will achieve sustainable coaching positions, where they can be successful and visible role models and will inspire the next generation of coaches from a diverse background’.
It has nothing to do with university or higher education. It’s about role models and inspiration - the fact that football coaches are predominantly white (like the country) highlights that white working class kids can already aspire to be like their coaches if they wish to.
Nothing to get angry about. |
Thank you. That took longer than it should, but the obvious first step was to look up what the CIDS is. This role (which is only a fixed term apprenticeship in effect) wouldn’t exist without the scheme. Well done us for engaging and supporting the development of future coaches. |  |
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| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 08:38 - Apr 25 with 868 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 20:50 - Apr 24 by vapour_trail |
Welcome to twtd, Lincs_Bluebelly.
What’s your favourite cheese? |
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| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 08:40 - Apr 25 with 868 views | DJR |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 07:55 - Apr 25 by Herbivore |
I think when you're a below average white man who has only managed to get where they've got in life by being a below average white man from a privileged background, you worry that people who aren't below average white men being given a chance might not end well for you. For these grifters, everything is about preserving and furthering a system that benefits them and them alone. |
I bet they're also miffed that is much more difficult getting their kids into internships in the City, but with the old boys' network there are ways round this type of obstacle. |  | | |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 08:50 - Apr 25 with 819 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 23:16 - Apr 24 by Whos_blue |
Is it woke DEI nonsense to mention you made reference to men but neglected to mention women were included in the offer? |
It’s interesting how we see people being heavily influenced by what’s happening over the pond. I’ve see DEI pop up all the time now in various places. It’s always been EDI in the UK of course, so it’s an instant tell that someone’s just parroting some mad American-based ramblings they’ve read online. | |
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| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 08:56 - Apr 25 with 792 views | Lincs_Bluebelly |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 23:16 - Apr 24 by Whos_blue |
Is it woke DEI nonsense to mention you made reference to men but neglected to mention women were included in the offer? |
Read the job advert for yourself. It is aimed at "Male coaches from Black, Asian and Mixed Heritage backgrounds, and female coaches from all backgrounds".
My point is that if the club really wants to promote inclusivity it should have stated that it offers equal opportunities regardless of race, religion, sex or sexuality. [Post edited 25 Apr 9:00]
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| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 08:59 - Apr 25 with 783 views | Lincs_Bluebelly |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 23:32 - Apr 24 by reusersfreekicks |
Your understanding of racism is matched by your spelling of it |
Pointing out the discrimination in the job advert does not make me a racist, quite the opposite I'd say.
But thank you for pointing out the error in my post. | | | |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 09:19 - Apr 25 with 726 views | Trequartista |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 23:11 - Apr 24 by NeedhamChris |
This has some downvotes, but on the legal point I think this is correct. |
I don't mind downvotes, I already know the people who will disagree with that and that's fine, it's just a boolean array in a database table at the end of the day.
I think it's quite telling that a lot of the replies avoid the issue and concentrate on the person (Lowe). That really is quite the theme nowadays. I haven't heard the whole rant, but I believe the poster boy James O'Brien's whole argument regarding the supreme court verdict was to say people are siding with Trump! [Post edited 25 Apr 9:21]
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| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 09:24 - Apr 25 with 701 views | Herbivore |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 09:19 - Apr 25 by Trequartista |
I don't mind downvotes, I already know the people who will disagree with that and that's fine, it's just a boolean array in a database table at the end of the day.
I think it's quite telling that a lot of the replies avoid the issue and concentrate on the person (Lowe). That really is quite the theme nowadays. I haven't heard the whole rant, but I believe the poster boy James O'Brien's whole argument regarding the supreme court verdict was to say people are siding with Trump! [Post edited 25 Apr 9:21]
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If you'd read the whole thread you'd see the issue you've raised has been addressed. | |
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| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 09:31 - Apr 25 with 660 views | DJR |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 23:11 - Apr 24 by NeedhamChris |
This has some downvotes, but on the legal point I think this is correct. |
You think that the Premier League lawyers don't know what's permissible under the law?
As it is, Fulham currently have a similar vacancy.
https://careers.fulhamfc.com/job/c319c9b1-a04a-47a4-94c2-f2f9712e7d97 | | | |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 09:39 - Apr 25 with 649 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 08:59 - Apr 25 by Lincs_Bluebelly |
Pointing out the discrimination in the job advert does not make me a racist, quite the opposite I'd say.
But thank you for pointing out the error in my post. |
The trouble is that you’ve missed the discussion about this being a PL-wide scheme to encourage more people from under-represented groups entering coaching. It’s not a job in the normal sense. It’s a training/apprenticeship opport supported by a bursary from the PL. It’s highly likely this ‘job’ wouldn’t be available if not for the scheme (it’s possible the club could use schemes like this to fill vacant roles of course, but that’s (a) unsustainable and (b) a very different point).
There are all sorts of schemes like this covering all sorts of areas where people in certain groups don’t get as many opportunities: people with various protected characteristics that are underrepresented, mothers or fathers returning to work after a career break, long-term unemployed, etc. They all have criteria defining who’s eligible. The whole point is to promote opportunities where there otherwise may be fewer. | |
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| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 11:02 - Apr 25 with 565 views | Lincs_Bluebelly |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 09:39 - Apr 25 by Swansea_Blue |
The trouble is that you’ve missed the discussion about this being a PL-wide scheme to encourage more people from under-represented groups entering coaching. It’s not a job in the normal sense. It’s a training/apprenticeship opport supported by a bursary from the PL. It’s highly likely this ‘job’ wouldn’t be available if not for the scheme (it’s possible the club could use schemes like this to fill vacant roles of course, but that’s (a) unsustainable and (b) a very different point).
There are all sorts of schemes like this covering all sorts of areas where people in certain groups don’t get as many opportunities: people with various protected characteristics that are underrepresented, mothers or fathers returning to work after a career break, long-term unemployed, etc. They all have criteria defining who’s eligible. The whole point is to promote opportunities where there otherwise may be fewer. |
I accept that, I think it's a fair point. However, there are people from all backgrounds and walks of life who would love such an opportunity and I don't think it's fair to target or prioritise specific demographics over others. | | | |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 11:36 - Apr 25 with 520 views | MattinLondon |
| Rupert Lowe is having a pop at us.. on 11:02 - Apr 25 by Lincs_Bluebelly |
I accept that, I think it's a fair point. However, there are people from all backgrounds and walks of life who would love such an opportunity and I don't think it's fair to target or prioritise specific demographics over others. |
I have no idea about your personal circumstances and whether you have young kids but for the benefit of this discussion, let’s imagine that you do.
Now let’s imagine that your kids -a boy and a girl - are really interested in a field of work which traditionally is dominated by the other sex. Now you being a good dad tell them to follow their dreams and encourage them. And then you find a scheme aimed at encouraging them to find employment for underrepresented groups such as sex.
Do you tell them to apply using the scheme or dismiss it as ‘woke nonsense’ and run the risk of them not following their dreams? [Post edited 25 Apr 11:57]
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