| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football 11:30 - May 1 with 7186 views | Swansea_Blue |
Which I suppose is effectively a ban from all football for any that have gone through any form of conversion therapy. No mention of a position on trans men though.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz01z4rdx4no
Hmm, Football or General? [Post edited 1 May 11:30]
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| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 13:50 - May 2 with 562 views | DJR |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 12:13 - May 2 by lowhouseblue |
i'm sure the nhs will be reviewing it's language generally. as i've said, it seems a poor use of language to me. would we say someone with anorexia is trapped inside a body with a normal range bmi? or someone with body dysmorphia is trapped inside a body that to them looks wrong? 'trapped' denies the reality that the body we have is the only body we're ever going to have |
The Supreme Court decision had nothing to do with the diagnosis or description of gender dysphoria, which is a condition recognised in many more countries than just the UK.
Anyway, I'm shortly off to Liverpool for the weekend, so won't be carrying on this debate as I don't post thing on TWTD from my phone, not least because it is difficult to read TWTD on a phone because the type is so small. [Post edited 2 May 13:56]
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| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 13:57 - May 2 with 531 views | glasso |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 18:38 - May 1 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
Whilst I see your point of view, the fact is, why should women who have battled decades of bans and discrimination then be forced to open the doors to trans women who have gone through puberty as biological males and gain an unfair advantage over those women who have a right to play their sport?
28 people are affected by this ruling. Countless hundreds and thousands of women are protected by this ruling.
Nothing in life is perfectly fair, but I can't disagree with the FA here. |
Your last line sums up the absurdity of it all.
28 trans people do not affect countless hundreds and thousands of women. There just aren't enough trans people for it to affect that many, and they're not all interested in playing football.
The reality is that 28 trans people are affected by this ruling, and at best... what, 300 women are protected by it (many of whom haven't even asked to be protected by it) |  | | |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 20:26 - May 2 with 415 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 13:57 - May 2 by glasso |
Your last line sums up the absurdity of it all.
28 trans people do not affect countless hundreds and thousands of women. There just aren't enough trans people for it to affect that many, and they're not all interested in playing football.
The reality is that 28 trans people are affected by this ruling, and at best... what, 300 women are protected by it (many of whom haven't even asked to be protected by it) |
300 women? I'd say it affects far more than that, in the football pyramid. From 12/13 years old upwards. |  | | |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 21:14 - May 2 with 365 views | Ryorry |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 20:26 - May 2 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
300 women? I'd say it affects far more than that, in the football pyramid. From 12/13 years old upwards. |
I think s/he meant 300 being the other team members of those 28 (but even so, there's more than one team at most clubs, including all the age groups, reserves etc, so that seems to me an underestimate).
But those 28 are only the individuals who are known, there might be many more who simply haven't come out. |  |
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| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 21:21 - May 2 with 336 views | vapour_trail |
I know a trans woman who started a women’s team round here that my wife briefly played for.
They’ve got themselves properly established now.
She can’t play for them any more. I feel so sorry for her. |  |
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| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 22:31 - May 2 with 288 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 20:26 - May 2 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
300 women? I'd say it affects far more than that, in the football pyramid. From 12/13 years old upwards. |
I doubt it. There are 20 players, so the numbers of other players they come into contact with will be limited. And besides, what risks have any of these 20 players presented? What have any done to threaten anyone else? I imagine very little to nothing (but don’t know of course, and given the low numbers Ivsuspect you don’t know either). | |
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| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 09:10 - May 3 with 165 views | Libero |
Yay, they've stopped 28 people from playing football - what a win, common sense, etc, etc. |  | | |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 09:15 - May 3 with 152 views | Herbivore |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 09:10 - May 3 by Libero |
Yay, they've stopped 28 people from playing football - what a win, common sense, etc, etc. |
It's cool to not care about minority groups these days. |  |
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| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 09:20 - May 3 with 141 views | Libero |
| The FA have banned trans women from women’s football on 09:15 - May 3 by Herbivore |
It's cool to not care about minority groups these days. |
Thing is, there is debate to be had around the subject and more research is needed- I don't even think it's as simple as a one size fits all approach for all sports- but from my point of view this seems a cowardly washing of hands by the FA who essentially don't want to get involved, instead they lean on the recent court case - which again, it seems majority of people have misunderstood.
If trans women had that much of an advantage, surely these 28 women would all be playing for the lionesses or their respective nations? Or at very minimum, the top level for women's football - how many are? (genuinely, I don't know)
Is it the case that a trans woman is competing in a women's league and scoring 100 goals a season?
It's vastly more complex than people who rarely come into contact with trans people seem to realise. | | | |
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