| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then 15:23 - May 7 with 2540 views | Illinoisblue |
Anyone here planning to attend World Cup 2026?
Bummed they don’t have Chicago as a venue but Atlanta and New York are easy direct flights, and Kansas is a doable 8-hour drive.
Regardless of which group/venues England are at, will be at a couple of games at least. |  |
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 18:55 - May 7 with 596 views | bluelagos |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 18:38 - May 7 by Illinoisblue |
94 kinda passed me by. Diana Ross missing a penalty and a few minutes for Bontcho is about all i can remember. |
Bulgaria v Mexico - was nil all - went to pens and a certain Mr Genchev took a pen :-)
Was proper p*ssed off cos some local asked me what baseball team was on my flag.
Did the QF Italy v Spain too - remember there was a proper tasty sending off - Italy must have won cos they made the final but can't remember much more than that tbh.
I do recall the QF Brzil v USA - only cos the yanks thought they were going to win. Spent the day trying to find a bookies (with no luck) and watched in a bar in Philli. [Post edited 7 May 18:57]
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 20:18 - May 7 with 550 views | Libero |
I don’t expect our US based contingent to agree, but I think it’s absolutely bonkers that anyone would be actively planning to visit the United States at the moment. |  | | |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 20:38 - May 7 with 525 views | iamatractorboy |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 18:55 - May 7 by bluelagos |
Bulgaria v Mexico - was nil all - went to pens and a certain Mr Genchev took a pen :-)
Was proper p*ssed off cos some local asked me what baseball team was on my flag.
Did the QF Italy v Spain too - remember there was a proper tasty sending off - Italy must have won cos they made the final but can't remember much more than that tbh.
I do recall the QF Brzil v USA - only cos the yanks thought they were going to win. Spent the day trying to find a bookies (with no luck) and watched in a bar in Philli. [Post edited 7 May 18:57]
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I think Luis Enrique (current PSG manager) had his jaw broken by a deliberate elbow that went unpunished in that match. Not sure what the sending off was.
Edit: it was his nose that was broken. [Post edited 7 May 20:39]
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 21:09 - May 7 with 486 views | bluelagos |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 20:38 - May 7 by iamatractorboy |
I think Luis Enrique (current PSG manager) had his jaw broken by a deliberate elbow that went unpunished in that match. Not sure what the sending off was.
Edit: it was his nose that was broken. [Post edited 7 May 20:39]
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Just had a Google...no red card at all.
Amazing that the only thing I remember was the nasty elbow as a red, and it wasn't even given.
Google says Tassoti got an 8 match ban afterwards, not that that helped Spain. | |
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 21:20 - May 7 with 471 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 20:18 - May 7 by Libero |
I don’t expect our US based contingent to agree, but I think it’s absolutely bonkers that anyone would be actively planning to visit the United States at the moment. |
Out of interest, why? As some kind of protest you mean? Or are you actively worried something would happen when you are here that would be drastically different from a year ago? Millions of visitors come every month. [Post edited 7 May 21:27]
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 13:00 - May 8 with 319 views | Libero |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 21:20 - May 7 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Out of interest, why? As some kind of protest you mean? Or are you actively worried something would happen when you are here that would be drastically different from a year ago? Millions of visitors come every month. [Post edited 7 May 21:27]
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Sure- forgive me if it’s not particularly well articulated- I find it hard to coherently explain all of this stuff because of the macro nature of it.
The USA is a nation with a quasi-fascist leader who has actively stated he will not follow due process-
Friend of mine is a white 34 year old assigned female at birth trans man, who went to the US recently to cover a convention for an independent media company.
They were stopped on entry, detained for hours, questioned about the nature of their visit, had them read some of their own social media posts back to them as if it was some kind of “gotcha”
A very upsetting experience for them, which ultimately affected the quality of their work when over there as they were so concerned about what would happen on the return journey.
I suspect this kind of thing is going to get worse.
I have a diagnosis of being on the autistic spectrum, as does my son, although he has high support needs- Kennedy wants autistic people on a register and expresses views that align with eugenics.
There are active cases right now of people who legally have the right to be in the US who have been illegally detained, deported and despite rulings saying they should be returned, they will not be.
If you’re the wrong colour, sexuality, race, religion, gender or disabled then it’s a risk- one that you may consider small but that I and an increasing number of others aren’t prepared to take the risk on.
I was asked few weeks ago about potentially doing some work at an event in the US in 2027, I can’t comprehend the idea of it because of this stuff- it’s gutting because it is something I’ve always dreamed of doing but it’s just not worth the personal risk.
I appreciate this probably won’t line up with your personal experience, but it is a very real concern for a number of minorities right now.
Herb’s joke about the social media checks isn’t a million miles away from the truth! [Post edited 8 May 13:03]
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 13:48 - May 8 with 277 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:57 - May 7 by Herbivore |
I was hoping we could go for a pint (a proper UK one, not a puny US one) as well. Maybe in 4 years. |
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 15:33 - May 8 with 192 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Some would have, maybe not all. The second one is a personal decision, she didn't even get denied? I do think some of it is a bit media driven tbh and there would have been plenty of denials before that never made the news previously.
If you actually look into them as individual cases. The young British girl got refused entry to Canada FROM the US and then the US refused her back in on the same basis (working on a tourist entry). As she was at a land border she couldn't be instantly deported on a flight. She had already violated the terms of her ESTA. The US has always been very strict on need proper documentation for such things. Not saying it wasn't an awful experience for her but it's not uncommon to get refused for that.
However, I do understand the concern in the current climate and the executive orders now are clearly telling agencies to enforce the law as its written.
I travel internationally frequently and came back last week, obviously I go in a different line to Visitors seeking temporary entry but from what I saw it was pretty much business as usual in the other lines.
JFK actually released data to those refused entry in March, it was 194 denied, compared 1.1 Million that entered.
Either way, obviously an individual decision but there is over 150 flights to the US a day from the UK alone, if it was 1 in 20 people or something, you'd be hearing about it a lot more than some individual cases. [Post edited 8 May 15:37]
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 15:52 - May 8 with 148 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 15:33 - May 8 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Some would have, maybe not all. The second one is a personal decision, she didn't even get denied? I do think some of it is a bit media driven tbh and there would have been plenty of denials before that never made the news previously.
If you actually look into them as individual cases. The young British girl got refused entry to Canada FROM the US and then the US refused her back in on the same basis (working on a tourist entry). As she was at a land border she couldn't be instantly deported on a flight. She had already violated the terms of her ESTA. The US has always been very strict on need proper documentation for such things. Not saying it wasn't an awful experience for her but it's not uncommon to get refused for that.
However, I do understand the concern in the current climate and the executive orders now are clearly telling agencies to enforce the law as its written.
I travel internationally frequently and came back last week, obviously I go in a different line to Visitors seeking temporary entry but from what I saw it was pretty much business as usual in the other lines.
JFK actually released data to those refused entry in March, it was 194 denied, compared 1.1 Million that entered.
Either way, obviously an individual decision but there is over 150 flights to the US a day from the UK alone, if it was 1 in 20 people or something, you'd be hearing about it a lot more than some individual cases. [Post edited 8 May 15:37]
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A Dutch friend , a musician, was denied entry into US 8 years ago because he supposedly had the wrong Visa. He travelled independently from other band members who had same visa and didn’t have any problem on entry.
Border control has more than a fair share of jobsworths,
Singling out individuals who have been critics, of Trump is new, unwanted dimension. | |
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 15:53 - May 8 with 147 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 13:00 - May 8 by Libero |
Sure- forgive me if it’s not particularly well articulated- I find it hard to coherently explain all of this stuff because of the macro nature of it.
The USA is a nation with a quasi-fascist leader who has actively stated he will not follow due process-
Friend of mine is a white 34 year old assigned female at birth trans man, who went to the US recently to cover a convention for an independent media company.
They were stopped on entry, detained for hours, questioned about the nature of their visit, had them read some of their own social media posts back to them as if it was some kind of “gotcha”
A very upsetting experience for them, which ultimately affected the quality of their work when over there as they were so concerned about what would happen on the return journey.
I suspect this kind of thing is going to get worse.
I have a diagnosis of being on the autistic spectrum, as does my son, although he has high support needs- Kennedy wants autistic people on a register and expresses views that align with eugenics.
There are active cases right now of people who legally have the right to be in the US who have been illegally detained, deported and despite rulings saying they should be returned, they will not be.
If you’re the wrong colour, sexuality, race, religion, gender or disabled then it’s a risk- one that you may consider small but that I and an increasing number of others aren’t prepared to take the risk on.
I was asked few weeks ago about potentially doing some work at an event in the US in 2027, I can’t comprehend the idea of it because of this stuff- it’s gutting because it is something I’ve always dreamed of doing but it’s just not worth the personal risk.
I appreciate this probably won’t line up with your personal experience, but it is a very real concern for a number of minorities right now.
Herb’s joke about the social media checks isn’t a million miles away from the truth! [Post edited 8 May 13:03]
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Sorry to hear, completely respect your decision.
I really can't see a world you would be refused entry to the US for having ASD. | | | |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 15:59 - May 8 with 136 views | Libero |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 15:53 - May 8 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Sorry to hear, completely respect your decision.
I really can't see a world you would be refused entry to the US for having ASD. |
Cheers, many I work with who are based in the US have similar concerns, one lady who's a lawyer in her day job and has a side hustle in my sphere, is particularly concerned about the current state of play- but as I say, I appreciate that not all based in the US feel this way.
I'm not worried about being refused entry - I'm worried about how they would treat someone with ASD if they decided that person had done something they didn't like- when there is no due process and a government attitude aligning with eugenics I think it's sensible to be wary. [Post edited 8 May 16:00]
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| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:06 - May 8 with 129 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 15:59 - May 8 by Libero |
Cheers, many I work with who are based in the US have similar concerns, one lady who's a lawyer in her day job and has a side hustle in my sphere, is particularly concerned about the current state of play- but as I say, I appreciate that not all based in the US feel this way.
I'm not worried about being refused entry - I'm worried about how they would treat someone with ASD if they decided that person had done something they didn't like- when there is no due process and a government attitude aligning with eugenics I think it's sensible to be wary. [Post edited 8 May 16:00]
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Fair enough, again I respect the personal decision however unfounded I think that is. | | | |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:08 - May 8 with 130 views | PhilTWTD |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 15:33 - May 8 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Some would have, maybe not all. The second one is a personal decision, she didn't even get denied? I do think some of it is a bit media driven tbh and there would have been plenty of denials before that never made the news previously.
If you actually look into them as individual cases. The young British girl got refused entry to Canada FROM the US and then the US refused her back in on the same basis (working on a tourist entry). As she was at a land border she couldn't be instantly deported on a flight. She had already violated the terms of her ESTA. The US has always been very strict on need proper documentation for such things. Not saying it wasn't an awful experience for her but it's not uncommon to get refused for that.
However, I do understand the concern in the current climate and the executive orders now are clearly telling agencies to enforce the law as its written.
I travel internationally frequently and came back last week, obviously I go in a different line to Visitors seeking temporary entry but from what I saw it was pretty much business as usual in the other lines.
JFK actually released data to those refused entry in March, it was 194 denied, compared 1.1 Million that entered.
Either way, obviously an individual decision but there is over 150 flights to the US a day from the UK alone, if it was 1 in 20 people or something, you'd be hearing about it a lot more than some individual cases. [Post edited 8 May 15:37]
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I doubt the legal advice would have been the same a year ago. You will probably be right, there will have been people refused before, but there seems a fair amount of evidence that more are being refused entry now and for reasons which appear related to their social media and criticism of the president and his accolytes. I have read of fears from those in the US tourism industry that they anticipate visitors from Europe dropping significantly this year. |  | | |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:22 - May 8 with 100 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:08 - May 8 by PhilTWTD |
I doubt the legal advice would have been the same a year ago. You will probably be right, there will have been people refused before, but there seems a fair amount of evidence that more are being refused entry now and for reasons which appear related to their social media and criticism of the president and his accolytes. I have read of fears from those in the US tourism industry that they anticipate visitors from Europe dropping significantly this year. |
There's for sure thousands refused every year.
I am not sure if it criticism/free speech related but just maximin enforcement of current laws. The one who claimed he got denied for pollical beliefs was the French scientist I think?
According to officials he confidential data though?
From NYT
“The French researcher in question was in possession of confidential information on his electronic device from Los Alamos National Laboratory — in violation of a nondisclosure agreement — something he admitted to taking without permission and attempted to conceal".
So who knows. They have always been allowed to check electronic devices to see if your story matches, that how they often catch people coming to work illegally. | | | |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:28 - May 8 with 83 views | PhilTWTD |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:22 - May 8 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
There's for sure thousands refused every year.
I am not sure if it criticism/free speech related but just maximin enforcement of current laws. The one who claimed he got denied for pollical beliefs was the French scientist I think?
According to officials he confidential data though?
From NYT
“The French researcher in question was in possession of confidential information on his electronic device from Los Alamos National Laboratory — in violation of a nondisclosure agreement — something he admitted to taking without permission and attempted to conceal".
So who knows. They have always been allowed to check electronic devices to see if your story matches, that how they often catch people coming to work illegally. |
The UK Subs bass player felt his denial was due to his political beliefs as well. UK and Germany have both issued new advice as a result of people's recent experiences.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/germany-uk-foreign-office-t | | | |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:39 - May 8 with 73 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The advice is saying (or I guess reiterating) to make sure you understand the laws and have the correct paperwork which is pretty sound advice. It's confirming all the laws are being enforced strictly. It's not saying don't come or anything. That would indicate that the border has become stricter, granted.
The Subs said they had the wrong visa and wouldn't say anything more from what I read?
Hate it when the Media just go on headline and not facts sometimes, that Independent article against mention the British girl, as I said her problems actually started when she got refused from Canada, which at that time alerted the US they had missed what she was doing in North America.
I think both things can be true, the Media is in a bit of a frenzy and the laws are being strictly enforced. I guess its down to an individual decision whether to come! | | | |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:57 - May 8 with 58 views | PhilTWTD |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:39 - May 8 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The advice is saying (or I guess reiterating) to make sure you understand the laws and have the correct paperwork which is pretty sound advice. It's confirming all the laws are being enforced strictly. It's not saying don't come or anything. That would indicate that the border has become stricter, granted.
The Subs said they had the wrong visa and wouldn't say anything more from what I read?
Hate it when the Media just go on headline and not facts sometimes, that Independent article against mention the British girl, as I said her problems actually started when she got refused from Canada, which at that time alerted the US they had missed what she was doing in North America.
I think both things can be true, the Media is in a bit of a frenzy and the laws are being strictly enforced. I guess its down to an individual decision whether to come! |
They said they claimed the visa was wrong and another undisclosed reason. I think the number of instances being reported indicates the situation has developed since the election.
I wonder whether Town, given the causes supported by one or two members of the squad, might be reconsidering whether to go to the US for pre-season next summer. Probably too early to start thinking about things like that in detail, but will be interesting to see if any players are barred from other clubs this summer. | | | |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 17:02 - May 8 with 50 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Assuming the world hasn’t ended by then on 16:57 - May 8 by PhilTWTD |
They said they claimed the visa was wrong and another undisclosed reason. I think the number of instances being reported indicates the situation has developed since the election.
I wonder whether Town, given the causes supported by one or two members of the squad, might be reconsidering whether to go to the US for pre-season next summer. Probably too early to start thinking about things like that in detail, but will be interesting to see if any players are barred from other clubs this summer. |
I highly doubt that would play into their thinking tbh. Hopefully not anyway! | | | |
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