| Interest rates down 14:41 - May 8 with 2923 views | Dubtractor |
Great work on the economy from labour.
I'm sure onceablue will be here to talk about it soon. Any moment now. |  |
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| Interest rates down on 08:59 - May 9 with 698 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interest rates down on 20:55 - May 8 by Lord_Lucan |
WTF Dolly???
That's one of the main arguments for Brexit.
Whilst in EU it was not permitted to do individual trade deals with other countries as The EU is The EU - alternate deals were verboten.
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We still traded with the US before Brexit, just under the framework of EU rules.
Is this deal so much better? I presume you'll be praising Kier/Labour if it is? |  |
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| Interest rates down on 09:03 - May 9 with 677 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interest rates down on 21:28 - May 8 by management |
Badenoch states it is a bad deal, that can be evaluated in the course of time, once there is more clarity on the fine print and in time the tangible results.
The aspect re Brexit refers to remarks by Donald Trump, I envisage he played a significant part in the trade agreement with the assistance of his colleagues. |
Badenoch was always going to state it's a bad deal, regardless of the details. That's her job as the leader of the opposition. She's hardly goijng to come out and say, 'Well done, Kier, that's actually pretty good and something we never managed to achieve"! | |
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| Interest rates down on 09:09 - May 9 with 649 views | StokieBlue |
| Interest rates down on 17:18 - May 8 by bluejacko |
Wouldn’t have been able to do the India deal either but hay ho some one will be along to tell us how bad both deals are and the EU could have got us a better one. |
The India deal is about 1.7% of our exports.
It's great to do it but let's not big it up into something it's not.
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| Interest rates down on 09:11 - May 9 with 648 views | StokieBlue |
| Interest rates down on 18:14 - May 8 by bluejacko |
Old hat but iIF the politicians had actually worked on doing what the vote was about instead of fighting it all the way when the vote was not going to be overturned who knows what could have happened! But hay ho. |
This is a ridiculous rewriting of history.
Boris and the Tories were in power, they had a majority, there was no way to stop them doing a deal. They didn't do a deal because the EU had the power and the Tories were incompetent.
You should be blaming the Tories not all politicians.
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| Interest rates down on 09:34 - May 9 with 614 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Interest rates down on 08:59 - May 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
We still traded with the US before Brexit, just under the framework of EU rules.
Is this deal so much better? I presume you'll be praising Kier/Labour if it is? |
It may not be the best deal in the world but Starmer had no option to sign it and compared to what other countries are getting smashed with it's better than nothing.
That is not what I was commenting on though. Someone said the deal was only possible because of Brexit which you seemed to disagree with - but we couldn't have done it if still part of the EU.
I'm not supporting Brexit or the trade deal, I was simply agreeing with the posters comment and expressing my surprise that you seemed to be unaware of this basic fact
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| Interest rates down on 09:52 - May 9 with 591 views | NedPlimpton |
| Interest rates down on 21:14 - May 8 by bluejacko |
What are you on about the vote was to leave the EU or have you forgotten that? IF all politicians had worked to get a decent BREXIT instead of having a sulk and working against the vote at every opportunity the EU wouldn’t have smelt weakness and negotiated differently!
Christ I don’t like I’ve got a Sein Fein FM or a Labour Govt but obviously unlike you I’ll get on and live with it🙄 [Post edited 8 May 21:34]
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| Interest rates down on 10:04 - May 9 with 567 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interest rates down on 09:34 - May 9 by Lord_Lucan |
It may not be the best deal in the world but Starmer had no option to sign it and compared to what other countries are getting smashed with it's better than nothing.
That is not what I was commenting on though. Someone said the deal was only possible because of Brexit which you seemed to disagree with - but we couldn't have done it if still part of the EU.
I'm not supporting Brexit or the trade deal, I was simply agreeing with the posters comment and expressing my surprise that you seemed to be unaware of this basic fact
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My point, as I've already stated, is that we could do deals with the US before Brexit. Is this deal better or worse than when we were in the EU? If it's better then great. If it's about on par or worse then Brexit is neither here nor there.
By the letter of the law, yes we couldn't have done this without Brexit - and the poster I was replying to was using it to show Brexit was a good thing. My point, which maybe I made badly last night, was to look at the context - if the deal is no better than we could've got anyway, then what difference does it make? In that case it's not a reason why Brexit was a good thing, as the poster was implying. | |
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| Interest rates down on 10:06 - May 9 with 552 views | DJR |
| Interest rates down on 21:14 - May 8 by bluejacko |
What are you on about the vote was to leave the EU or have you forgotten that? IF all politicians had worked to get a decent BREXIT instead of having a sulk and working against the vote at every opportunity the EU wouldn’t have smelt weakness and negotiated differently!
Christ I don’t like I’ve got a Sein Fein FM or a Labour Govt but obviously unlike you I’ll get on and live with it🙄 [Post edited 8 May 21:34]
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I thought you would be pleased living in Northern Ireland that you have the best of both worlds when it comes to Brexit.  [Post edited 9 May 10:07]
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| Interest rates down on 10:31 - May 9 with 516 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Interest rates down on 10:04 - May 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
My point, as I've already stated, is that we could do deals with the US before Brexit. Is this deal better or worse than when we were in the EU? If it's better then great. If it's about on par or worse then Brexit is neither here nor there.
By the letter of the law, yes we couldn't have done this without Brexit - and the poster I was replying to was using it to show Brexit was a good thing. My point, which maybe I made badly last night, was to look at the context - if the deal is no better than we could've got anyway, then what difference does it make? In that case it's not a reason why Brexit was a good thing, as the poster was implying. |
You are talking in riddles but let's leave it there as I have work to do - and you have history of turning the smallest thing into a 10 pager. | |
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| Interest rates down on 11:06 - May 9 with 492 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interest rates down on 10:31 - May 9 by Lord_Lucan |
You are talking in riddles but let's leave it there as I have work to do - and you have history of turning the smallest thing into a 10 pager. |
LOL, the irony here is you've taken a small thing (my bad wording) to try to cause an argument.
There's no riddle in what I've said, but if you can't understand it now I've spelt it out more clearly there's not a lot more I can do. Have a nice day. | |
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| Interest rates down on 11:13 - May 9 with 475 views | blueasfook |
| Interest rates down on 11:06 - May 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
LOL, the irony here is you've taken a small thing (my bad wording) to try to cause an argument.
There's no riddle in what I've said, but if you can't understand it now I've spelt it out more clearly there's not a lot more I can do. Have a nice day. |
You could just admit you were wrong? Just a thought... |  |
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| Interest rates down on 11:25 - May 9 with 467 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interest rates down on 11:13 - May 9 by blueasfook |
You could just admit you were wrong? Just a thought... |
No need for you to steam in here, but did you not read the bit where I said "By the letter of the law, yes we couldn't have done this without Brexit"?
Do you want to deal with my actual point (Is this deal better or worse than when we were in the EU? If the deal is no better than we could've got anyway, then what difference does it make?) or are you just here to have a pop?
I know you're a fan of Brexit, and the person I was replying to was implying this deal proves Brexit was a good thing. Is this a good deal? If people are celebrating that this deal happened because of Brexit, then that implies it's a good deal. Well done Kier?! | |
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| Interest rates down on 11:32 - May 9 with 453 views | blueasfook |
| Interest rates down on 11:25 - May 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No need for you to steam in here, but did you not read the bit where I said "By the letter of the law, yes we couldn't have done this without Brexit"?
Do you want to deal with my actual point (Is this deal better or worse than when we were in the EU? If the deal is no better than we could've got anyway, then what difference does it make?) or are you just here to have a pop?
I know you're a fan of Brexit, and the person I was replying to was implying this deal proves Brexit was a good thing. Is this a good deal? If people are celebrating that this deal happened because of Brexit, then that implies it's a good deal. Well done Kier?! |
Well without comparing the terms of the two trade deals (ie. what we had when we were in the EU and the new deal) i cannot say. But then, neither can you. If the new deal is better than the old terms, then yes, it's thanks to Brexit.
But also, EU are now hit with Trump's tariffs which I expect we will dodge | |
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| Interest rates down on 11:39 - May 9 with 434 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interest rates down on 11:32 - May 9 by blueasfook |
Well without comparing the terms of the two trade deals (ie. what we had when we were in the EU and the new deal) i cannot say. But then, neither can you. If the new deal is better than the old terms, then yes, it's thanks to Brexit.
But also, EU are now hit with Trump's tariffs which I expect we will dodge |
I wasn't trying to compare them. I was asking, if this is a 'Yay, well done for Brexit' moment then surely that implies it's a good deal? Interestingly, that poster hasn't replied.
They're caught between a rock and a hard place aren't they? If it's a good deal they'll have to say "Well done Kier and Labour". If it's a bad deal, then it's not a benefit of Brexit.
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| Interest rates down on 11:45 - May 9 with 401 views | Churchman |
| Interest rates down on 21:14 - May 8 by bluejacko |
What are you on about the vote was to leave the EU or have you forgotten that? IF all politicians had worked to get a decent BREXIT instead of having a sulk and working against the vote at every opportunity the EU wouldn’t have smelt weakness and negotiated differently!
Christ I don’t like I’ve got a Sein Fein FM or a Labour Govt but obviously unlike you I’ll get on and live with it🙄 [Post edited 8 May 21:34]
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So a vote based on lies, misinformation and total blind ignorance on both sides must be adhered to forever because it’s the will of the people? Sorry, I have to disagree with that.
How and why would the EU negotiated differently? Why did they need to? As it goes, they could have foisted even more catastrophic terms on this country. In their shoes, I would have done on the basis that while the EU might be damaged, the U.K. quite literally had everything to lose. They also had professional, trained negotiators. We had amateurs who didn’t have a clue what they were negotiating.
What micromanager May should have done is end it before Article 50 in 2017 on the basis that it was not practical and the risk to the Good Friday Agreement too great. The government would have had to resign and would have been booted out there and then, but the well-being of the country should have been put first.
As for deals, the one with the US is more political than anything else, but it’s better than nothing as is the one with India. Far more important agreements are to be had with the EU because the current self inflicted drag on business is costly, senseless and needs to be eased. [Post edited 9 May 16:14]
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| Interest rates down on 11:49 - May 9 with 408 views | blueasfook |
| Interest rates down on 11:39 - May 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I wasn't trying to compare them. I was asking, if this is a 'Yay, well done for Brexit' moment then surely that implies it's a good deal? Interestingly, that poster hasn't replied.
They're caught between a rock and a hard place aren't they? If it's a good deal they'll have to say "Well done Kier and Labour". If it's a bad deal, then it's not a benefit of Brexit.
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You win the internet again!!! How do you keep doing it?!!
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| Interest rates down on 12:26 - May 9 with 356 views | management |
| Interest rates down on 11:39 - May 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I wasn't trying to compare them. I was asking, if this is a 'Yay, well done for Brexit' moment then surely that implies it's a good deal? Interestingly, that poster hasn't replied.
They're caught between a rock and a hard place aren't they? If it's a good deal they'll have to say "Well done Kier and Labour". If it's a bad deal, then it's not a benefit of Brexit.
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You are an interesting character, initially yesterday I stated that parties has suggested this trade deal would not have taken place without Brexit occurring. You replied advising you had watched BBC all day without reference to this aspect(Ask yourself why BBC had omitted this).
You asked for evidence of my statement, I duly replied within a few minutes with a link from The Telegraph.
To which you replied stating a response from Badenoch, irrelevant to my opening post and of course no gratitude for providing the link(which if you had googled you could have found within a few seconds).
I stated the inference was from Donald Trump and when you reply once again you go on about Badenoch.
Time will see if it is a good deal or not but without question, Brexit has been integral in this deal, not to say Brexit has or can be viewed as a benefit to the UK economy.
Interesting replies from other contributors in this thread.
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| Interest rates down on 13:37 - May 9 with 295 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interest rates down on 11:49 - May 9 by blueasfook |
You win the internet again!!! How do you keep doing it?!!
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Tekkers and skillz. | |
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| Interest rates down on 13:41 - May 9 with 281 views | blueasfook |
Please will you use the photo i posted as your avatar. It is perfect for you. | |
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| Interest rates down on 14:31 - May 9 with 237 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interest rates down on 13:41 - May 9 by blueasfook |
Please will you use the photo i posted as your avatar. It is perfect for you. |
I like it, he's got more hair than me. | |
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