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Competitive, fine margins 17:03 - May 10 with 1207 viewscbower

All very true but we are just not able to come out on the right side of a single game. It's quite soul destroying as the players are working so hard. Roll on the end of May because I've had enough.

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Competitive, fine margins on 17:05 - May 10 with 1019 viewsFromReuserWithLove

We do work hard etc but we don't make nearly enough attacking risks to come out on top in fine margins. No lack of effort but just not quite at the level.
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Competitive, fine margins on 17:05 - May 10 with 1015 viewsSuperblue95

Today was one of the worst games I’ve watched in quite a while. Most of the match was just the ref blowing his whistle and 5 players from each team shouting at him. Players grappling or rolling around, little actual quality from either side.

We had a few decent chances to equalise at the end but I can’t say we’d have deserved a point

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Competitive, fine margins on 17:06 - May 10 with 1008 viewsTractorWood

Competitive, fine margins on 17:05 - May 10 by FromReuserWithLove

We do work hard etc but we don't make nearly enough attacking risks to come out on top in fine margins. No lack of effort but just not quite at the level.


And can't defend.

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Competitive, fine margins on 17:08 - May 10 with 973 viewstonybied

Yup, how do we turn those narrow results around? Having a fully fit squad would probably help but it's just so frustrating to lose to 1-2 moments of magic or mistakes almost every week, filled out with games that are completely uncompetitive. It's been a horrible season, no two ways about it, and as you say the sooner it finishes the better!
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Competitive, fine margins on 17:36 - May 10 with 885 viewsRadlett_blue

We have had so many narrow defeats that it's not a matter of luck or refereeing decisions (although we've had the odd one go against us) but simply that our players collectively aren't quite good enough for this level.

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Competitive, fine margins on 17:45 - May 10 with 834 viewsDavoIPB

Competitive, fine margins on 17:36 - May 10 by Radlett_blue

We have had so many narrow defeats that it's not a matter of luck or refereeing decisions (although we've had the odd one go against us) but simply that our players collectively aren't quite good enough for this level.


This is true but what also seems to be true is the coaching isnt quite there yet. Every team we play against has patterns of play that are so far more advanced than ours that it really doesn't seem fair.
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Competitive, fine margins on 17:48 - May 10 with 817 viewsArnieM

Well, the usual shower for officials the ever inequitable VAR. I can't think of a single VAR decision being given for us this season.
Why wasn't the trip on Hirst even reviewed? He was clean through, and the Brentford player took his shooting heel away.

Enciso an absolute masterclass in guts, determination and skill trying to drag the team up the pitch and be a threat. Oh, how I wish we could sign him.

However the same problems exist. Gutless in midfield. No physicality throughout the team, and minimal threat up front, and no changes to approach by McKenna, ( are we even durorused)? We looked more of a threat once the subs came on. Make if that what you will.

I just hope Leicester don't beat us. We deserve to be top of the bottom three pile, given our efforts this season and basically a League One squad with a smattering of youngsters.

Bring on next season. It can't come doon enough for me.

A big shout out to the loyal Town fans. ....
COYBS

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Competitive, fine margins on 17:48 - May 10 with 813 viewsitfcsuth

It’s more an education as to the levels you need to be at, individually and collectively to play in the best league in the world.

I think there is always evidence that we play to a real plan, that we are a really coached outfit, but I think there is also very often the evidence that we are not at the PL level at the moment individually.

We are not a million miles away, but we also are not there at the moment.
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Competitive, fine margins on 17:56 - May 10 with 768 viewsStNeotsBlue

Competitive, fine margins on 17:48 - May 10 by ArnieM

Well, the usual shower for officials the ever inequitable VAR. I can't think of a single VAR decision being given for us this season.
Why wasn't the trip on Hirst even reviewed? He was clean through, and the Brentford player took his shooting heel away.

Enciso an absolute masterclass in guts, determination and skill trying to drag the team up the pitch and be a threat. Oh, how I wish we could sign him.

However the same problems exist. Gutless in midfield. No physicality throughout the team, and minimal threat up front, and no changes to approach by McKenna, ( are we even durorused)? We looked more of a threat once the subs came on. Make if that what you will.

I just hope Leicester don't beat us. We deserve to be top of the bottom three pile, given our efforts this season and basically a League One squad with a smattering of youngsters.

Bring on next season. It can't come doon enough for me.

A big shout out to the loyal Town fans. ....
COYBS


"Basically a League One squad with a smattering of youngsters" is stretching the truth a touch. Do you work in politics or marketing?
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:09 - May 10 with 650 viewsRIPbobby

The big difference is when they had the ball they were comfortable with it stroked the ball around and looked in control. When we had it we look like the ball was about to explode and tried to get rid of it quickly.

I thought for them that fella who had a battle with Enciso was great. A good athlete and such a good footballer too. Fair play to Brentford they could play football. We bought them down to our level and almost nicked a point. Harsh on us to lose.
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:14 - May 10 with 621 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Competitive, fine margins on 17:48 - May 10 by ArnieM

Well, the usual shower for officials the ever inequitable VAR. I can't think of a single VAR decision being given for us this season.
Why wasn't the trip on Hirst even reviewed? He was clean through, and the Brentford player took his shooting heel away.

Enciso an absolute masterclass in guts, determination and skill trying to drag the team up the pitch and be a threat. Oh, how I wish we could sign him.

However the same problems exist. Gutless in midfield. No physicality throughout the team, and minimal threat up front, and no changes to approach by McKenna, ( are we even durorused)? We looked more of a threat once the subs came on. Make if that what you will.

I just hope Leicester don't beat us. We deserve to be top of the bottom three pile, given our efforts this season and basically a League One squad with a smattering of youngsters.

Bring on next season. It can't come doon enough for me.

A big shout out to the loyal Town fans. ....
COYBS


How about first half of Chelsea at home? How about the challenge on Omari at Man United away?
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:16 - May 10 with 614 viewstextbackup

Define competitive for me?

Is it purely a 1-0 loss that looks closer than it was?

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Competitive, fine margins on 19:19 - May 10 with 602 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Competitive, fine margins on 17:48 - May 10 by itfcsuth

It’s more an education as to the levels you need to be at, individually and collectively to play in the best league in the world.

I think there is always evidence that we play to a real plan, that we are a really coached outfit, but I think there is also very often the evidence that we are not at the PL level at the moment individually.

We are not a million miles away, but we also are not there at the moment.


“ We are not a million miles away, but we also are not there at the moment.”

The referee was the difference between us today - more than held our own, that’s why it’s so frustrating. We can’t claim big club bias but there’s definitely Lambert levels of incompetence.
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:20 - May 10 with 595 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Competitive, fine margins on 19:19 - May 10 by SuperKieranMcKenna

“ We are not a million miles away, but we also are not there at the moment.”

The referee was the difference between us today - more than held our own, that’s why it’s so frustrating. We can’t claim big club bias but there’s definitely Lambert levels of incompetence.


“The referee was the difference”

Embarrassing conclusion.
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:21 - May 10 with 591 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

Competitive, fine margins on 19:09 - May 10 by RIPbobby

The big difference is when they had the ball they were comfortable with it stroked the ball around and looked in control. When we had it we look like the ball was about to explode and tried to get rid of it quickly.

I thought for them that fella who had a battle with Enciso was great. A good athlete and such a good footballer too. Fair play to Brentford they could play football. We bought them down to our level and almost nicked a point. Harsh on us to lose.


Hmmm, based on your first paragraph, you were at a different game to me.
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:22 - May 10 with 582 viewstextbackup

Competitive, fine margins on 17:48 - May 10 by ArnieM

Well, the usual shower for officials the ever inequitable VAR. I can't think of a single VAR decision being given for us this season.
Why wasn't the trip on Hirst even reviewed? He was clean through, and the Brentford player took his shooting heel away.

Enciso an absolute masterclass in guts, determination and skill trying to drag the team up the pitch and be a threat. Oh, how I wish we could sign him.

However the same problems exist. Gutless in midfield. No physicality throughout the team, and minimal threat up front, and no changes to approach by McKenna, ( are we even durorused)? We looked more of a threat once the subs came on. Make if that what you will.

I just hope Leicester don't beat us. We deserve to be top of the bottom three pile, given our efforts this season and basically a League One squad with a smattering of youngsters.

Bring on next season. It can't come doon enough for me.

A big shout out to the loyal Town fans. ....
COYBS


Because it wasn’t a trip, at all. It was an awful shot

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Competitive, fine margins on 19:24 - May 10 with 563 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Competitive, fine margins on 19:22 - May 10 by textbackup

Because it wasn’t a trip, at all. It was an awful shot


Time to go and enjoy the afternoon sunshine for me. Imagine if this was Leeds or Norwich commenting after a game. I get losing so much is rubbish but some we’ve turned into an absolute bunch of wingers that can’t accept reality.

After Leicester at home sure, but recently, Jesus Christ!
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:26 - May 10 with 557 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Competitive, fine margins on 19:20 - May 10 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

“The referee was the difference”

Embarrassing conclusion.


Were you there? Other than an incompetent decision, what about the stats suggests otherwise?

Hardly outclassed were we…
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:28 - May 10 with 534 viewstextbackup

Competitive, fine margins on 19:26 - May 10 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Were you there? Other than an incompetent decision, what about the stats suggests otherwise?

Hardly outclassed were we…


We didn’t require to be outclassed to be beaten. A simple bang average Brentford preformance saw us beaten, and we really only started playing on 80mins.

The ref wasn’t the difference ffs

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Competitive, fine margins on 19:29 - May 10 with 528 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Competitive, fine margins on 19:26 - May 10 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Were you there? Other than an incompetent decision, what about the stats suggests otherwise?

Hardly outclassed were we…


No I wasn’t, I watched at the pub, I never said we were outclassed, we could have nicked a point at the end but didn’t because WE didn’t take our chances.

The difference was NOT the referee.
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:35 - May 10 with 488 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

Competitive, fine margins on 19:29 - May 10 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

No I wasn’t, I watched at the pub, I never said we were outclassed, we could have nicked a point at the end but didn’t because WE didn’t take our chances.

The difference was NOT the referee.
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I’m not sure how well it came over on a TV screen, but the ref was not particularly kind to us. In the first half he was in the centre of almost everything - and rarely to our benefit. The ironic cheers around the ground when something was given to us were testament to this.

A good referee should be invisibly for most of a game. This one was everything but.

Was he the difference? Who knows as we can’t rerun the game with a less intrusive ref, but it cannot be denied that he impacted the game negatively from our perspective.
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:39 - May 10 with 475 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Competitive, fine margins on 19:29 - May 10 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

No I wasn’t, I watched at the pub, I never said we were outclassed, we could have nicked a point at the end but didn’t because WE didn’t take our chances.

The difference was NOT the referee.
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“ we could have nicked a point at the end”

Yet here you are arguing against fine margins…

Embarrassing conclusion…
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Competitive, fine margins on 19:54 - May 10 with 452 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Competitive, fine margins on 19:39 - May 10 by SuperKieranMcKenna

“ we could have nicked a point at the end”

Yet here you are arguing against fine margins…

Embarrassing conclusion…


No I’m not. Stop embarrassing yourself FFS. I’m disagreeing with your notion that the ref was the difference.

Can only imagine the threads on here if the Axel “tackle” was from a Brentford player, so tedious.
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Competitive, fine margins on 20:08 - May 10 with 389 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Competitive, fine margins on 19:54 - May 10 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

No I’m not. Stop embarrassing yourself FFS. I’m disagreeing with your notion that the ref was the difference.

Can only imagine the threads on here if the Axel “tackle” was from a Brentford player, so tedious.


Right so a referee decision wasn’t the difference between us. Must have missed all the other Brentford goals.

I’ll beg to differ and leave it there, I don’t have the stamina of some posters!
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Competitive, fine margins on 20:20 - May 10 with 339 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Competitive, fine margins on 20:08 - May 10 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Right so a referee decision wasn’t the difference between us. Must have missed all the other Brentford goals.

I’ll beg to differ and leave it there, I don’t have the stamina of some posters!


Are you talking about a corner retake? Is that where we are at now? The referee ordering a corner to be retaken with all that pushing and shoving nonsense, is Town getting completely screwed is it? Come on man!

There maybe some debate if it should have been retaken in the first place if the ball was in play but it happens all the time. Using that as being the actual difference over 90 minutes, rather than controlling what we could, like, defending said corner, taking our chances is really boarding on pathetic.

Hardly Leicester at home levels was it!

They also had a very good pen shout second half.

One home win in 18 isn’t some kind of coincidence or referring conspiracy. Anyway you’re right, let’s leave it I think!
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