| Chairman + CEO??? 18:51 - May 27 with 1465 views | viewfromtheu2 |
Having read the FA and elsewheres guidance on what the two roles actually entail it's hard to see how one person could do both roles.
Do we think Mike O'Leary will ever be replaced or will both roles be amalgamated into a Super Chief Grand Master Wizard type designate?
Just thinking aloud really. |  |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 18:57 - May 27 with 1390 views | norfsufblue |
It wouldn't surprise me if Matt Holland is not being lined up as a future Chairman? |  | | |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 19:00 - May 27 with 1373 views | SitfcB |
Ashton was asked whether the plan is for him to become chairman of the club long-term or whether the club are searching for someone externally, adding: "No, it is long-term. It is an executive management team that run the football club.
"Things haven't really changed that much since I took over. I worked with Mike O'Leary for many years, he is a first-class guy but it was just a natural progression in the workload that I was doing and the way we were operating and running the club.
"Those who know me know that I care passionately about this football club. I will give my last breath defending this football club."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cjdlzpj1pd5o.amp |  |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 19:37 - May 27 with 1225 views | gsoly |
I really think it’s easy to make a mountain out of a molehill with this. Who knows who is chairman of any other PL football club? Or any £100m turnover business for that matter? It’s an outdated, ceremonial role. |  | | |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 19:57 - May 27 with 1150 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
This structure has always been seen as an example of bad corporate governance. |  |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 21:56 - May 27 with 1009 views | textbackup |
FWIW, I don’t think 1 person should be allowed such ‘power’ without having someone to consult, or be reigned in by. |  |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:07 - May 27 with 956 views | yesjohn99 |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 21:56 - May 27 by textbackup |
FWIW, I don’t think 1 person should be allowed such ‘power’ without having someone to consult, or be reigned in by. |
I agree. |  | | |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:12 - May 27 with 948 views | PrideOfTheEast |
I think our structure is probably better than many others and we separate the day to day running from ownership. A big problem with ME was that he didn’t empower anybody to run the club, and had limited capability to do so himself, and of course he answered to nobody.
Clearly O’Leary and Ashton complimented one another but I can’t see anybody, other than the ownership group, being capable of adding much else in a chair capacity which they probably feel they do already. | | | |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:14 - May 27 with 937 views | Churchman |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 21:56 - May 27 by textbackup |
FWIW, I don’t think 1 person should be allowed such ‘power’ without having someone to consult, or be reigned in by. |
Well he doesn’t have a free hand beyond the remit agreed with the owners. As I see it he is responsible for the running of the club day to day and while they don’t interfere with that, he is accountable and reports to the GC Board. Something like that.
https://www.itfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/
I suspect there will be a lot of scrutiny by the owners as to what happened this season, including by the finance dude with the cowboy boots who didn’t come across as the kind of person to be mugged off. How well has it worked? Only people close to the club or in it know that.
Knowing how Americans operate, if they are not happy with what he is doing he will be gone. |  | | |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:17 - May 27 with 916 views | Mark |
I think the roles should be separate in any organisation.
Mark Ashton is a remarkable leader and has been integral to the success of the club. I think if he chose to leave it would be bigger than McKenna leaving. |  | | |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:19 - May 27 with 903 views | textbackup |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:14 - May 27 by Churchman |
Well he doesn’t have a free hand beyond the remit agreed with the owners. As I see it he is responsible for the running of the club day to day and while they don’t interfere with that, he is accountable and reports to the GC Board. Something like that.
https://www.itfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/
I suspect there will be a lot of scrutiny by the owners as to what happened this season, including by the finance dude with the cowboy boots who didn’t come across as the kind of person to be mugged off. How well has it worked? Only people close to the club or in it know that.
Knowing how Americans operate, if they are not happy with what he is doing he will be gone. |
Yeah of course he has them to answer to, he’s mentioned that before. Every penny accounted for etc.
I just remember the words so very clearly that he said about O’Leary being his calming influence and a senior person he could talk to for advice. | |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:45 - May 27 with 824 views | PioneerBlue |
Move on, nothing to see here. Board must feel the CEO is capable and they can give sufficient strategic input and challenge for effective day to day running of club, CEO must feel board offers the strategic guidance required to deliver for the shareholders otherwise the board would appoint a chairperson. | |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 23:16 - May 27 with 774 views | DarkBrandon |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 19:37 - May 27 by gsoly |
I really think it’s easy to make a mountain out of a molehill with this. Who knows who is chairman of any other PL football club? Or any £100m turnover business for that matter? It’s an outdated, ceremonial role. |
It is not outdated. Sure the traditional football club structure had an outdated position as chairman, but these days companies - wisely - almost always have different people in the two roles.
Nobody thinks Ashton doesn’t work very hard, or isn’t a leader of considerably ability. But I think all parties would be better served with a wise head helping steer our strategy on occasion. Maybe the Americans do that enough. But a chairman would be closer to him. We will see how it plays out over the years to come |  | | |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 00:41 - May 28 with 680 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:45 - May 27 by PioneerBlue |
Move on, nothing to see here. Board must feel the CEO is capable and they can give sufficient strategic input and challenge for effective day to day running of club, CEO must feel board offers the strategic guidance required to deliver for the shareholders otherwise the board would appoint a chairperson. |
Thanks Mark. | |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 05:20 - May 28 with 539 views | SitfcB |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:19 - May 27 by textbackup |
Yeah of course he has them to answer to, he’s mentioned that before. Every penny accounted for etc.
I just remember the words so very clearly that he said about O’Leary being his calming influence and a senior person he could talk to for advice. |
I suppose just because MOL isn’t here anymore doesn’t mean MA can’t talk to him and ask for advice I suppose, just MA will be able to make the final decision but probably has to run it passed the owners most of the time anyway. | |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 06:03 - May 28 with 495 views | PioneerBlue |
This is about the board not about Mark Ashton. The board appoint a chairperson, it’s not Mark Ashton’s responsibility to appoint a Chairperson as CEO. The board must feel individually and collectively they are performing their duties adequately without that separate role. That’s the only reason for not being to fussed by the governance model. Who knows, in time perhaps they will revert but that remains to be seen. | |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 06:48 - May 28 with 441 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 22:17 - May 27 by Mark |
I think the roles should be separate in any organisation.
Mark Ashton is a remarkable leader and has been integral to the success of the club. I think if he chose to leave it would be bigger than McKenna leaving. |
Expected a more subtle username tbh |  |
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| Chairman + CEO??? on 06:53 - May 28 with 429 views | Churchman |
| Chairman + CEO??? on 05:20 - May 28 by SitfcB |
I suppose just because MOL isn’t here anymore doesn’t mean MA can’t talk to him and ask for advice I suppose, just MA will be able to make the final decision but probably has to run it passed the owners most of the time anyway. |
It should be remembered that MOL lives in the West Country and was spending less and less time at the club. His primary role was negotiating the takeover and transitioning the club. His active role within the club was already diminishing. What a great job he did. He’s owed a lot of thanks.
I suspect a lot of what MA was initially doing has been devolved to subordinates, looking at ITFCs structure and the latter will continue to evolve. If you’ve ever worked in any structured organisation that’s evolving and going through rapid change, you will know that’s the way of it. And let’s face it, MOL and Gamechanger started with a wreck of a club. | | | |
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