| Dubious additional honour 17:24 - Jun 4 with 1361 views | PhilTWTD |
The latest in a series of occasional posts regarding trophies and awards Town figures have won outside of football, previously Oscars, the Schneider Trophy and a Nobel Prize have been added to our alternative trophy cabinet.
So, in addition to Oscars and a Nobel Prize... by PhilTWTD 11 Apr 2022 15:43...as per the thread below we can add the Schneider Trophy. Surely no other club has had a Schneider Trophy winner play for them as revealed (to me at least) in this blog:
https://www.twtd.co.uk/blogs/21894/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Webster
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/532874/better-news-from-the-oscars-last-night-as-ipswich...#532874
Now I've learnt former director Nat Shaw won the Waterloo Cup, which essentially seems to have been the FA Cup in hare-coursing, which thankfully no longer takes place. Still, as unpalatable as it is, a footnote in history.
I think someone said they knew Nat Shaw on here a while back. I was looking into him as he organised the boxing in 1946 I did a story on yesterday.
He was on the board of Town from 1936 when the club went professional until his death in 1969. He ran the greyhound stadium in London Road and had clothing shops in Ipswich, Bury St Edmunds and elsewhere.
Bit more info on him here if anyone's interested:
http://www.jtrails.org.uk/trails/bury-st.-edmunds/stories/c-702/jews-in-bury-st-
http://www.jtrails.org.uk/trails/bury-st.-edmunds/letters/c-706/nat-shaw-the-wat
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| Dubious additional honour on 17:31 - Jun 4 with 1248 views | blueasfook |
Not interested in someone who took part in such a barbaric act, no. |  |
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| Dubious additional honour on 17:42 - Jun 4 with 1157 views | Swansea_Blue |
That’s an interesting back story to him. Have you any idea why he changed his name? I’m wondering if it had anything to do with being more accepted with his shops, as his niece talks about experiencing antisemitism. I may be miles off those. [Post edited 4 Jun 17:42]
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| Dubious additional honour on 18:02 - Jun 4 with 1062 views | Illinoisblue |
| Dubious additional honour on 17:31 - Jun 4 by blueasfook |
Not interested in someone who took part in such a barbaric act, no. |
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| Dubious additional honour on 18:16 - Jun 4 with 1006 views | Freddies_Ears |
Not that Wikipedia is ever incorrect (oh), but I would anticipate that C S Sherrington's one appearance was for Ipswich Association Football Club, which became ITFC in, I think, 1888.
It's a great honour for us, maybe not unique in world football, but certainly unusual.
I guess Marie Curie never turned out for PSG Feminines??? |  | | |
| Dubious additional honour on 19:07 - Jun 4 with 842 views | blueasfook |
| Dubious additional honour on 18:02 - Jun 4 by Illinoisblue |
Are you a vegetarian? |
Organitarian. I won't touch anything organic. I eat only synthetic rice. | |
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| Dubious additional honour on 19:09 - Jun 4 with 826 views | PhilTWTD |
| Dubious additional honour on 17:42 - Jun 4 by Swansea_Blue |
That’s an interesting back story to him. Have you any idea why he changed his name? I’m wondering if it had anything to do with being more accepted with his shops, as his niece talks about experiencing antisemitism. I may be miles off those. [Post edited 4 Jun 17:42]
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I think it was common practice for German Jews moving to English-speaking countries to anglicise their names. Would be interesting to know more of his background as assume he moved to the UK prior to the rise of Hitler if he was brought up in East London and was on our board by 1936. | | | |
| Dubious additional honour on 19:10 - Jun 4 with 816 views | PhilTWTD |
| Dubious additional honour on 18:16 - Jun 4 by Freddies_Ears |
Not that Wikipedia is ever incorrect (oh), but I would anticipate that C S Sherrington's one appearance was for Ipswich Association Football Club, which became ITFC in, I think, 1888.
It's a great honour for us, maybe not unique in world football, but certainly unusual.
I guess Marie Curie never turned out for PSG Feminines??? |
Indeed, I think his Nobel prize was what set this occasional series of threads up and running in the first place. And he was a Sir, of course, of which we've obviously had a few over the years. | | | |
| Dubious additional honour on 19:18 - Jun 4 with 760 views | Trequartista |
| Dubious additional honour on 17:31 - Jun 4 by blueasfook |
Not interested in someone who took part in such a barbaric act, no. |
boxing or greyhounds? |  |
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| Dubious additional honour on 19:41 - Jun 4 with 684 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Dubious additional honour on 19:09 - Jun 4 by PhilTWTD |
I think it was common practice for German Jews moving to English-speaking countries to anglicise their names. Would be interesting to know more of his background as assume he moved to the UK prior to the rise of Hitler if he was brought up in East London and was on our board by 1936. |
Yes, that middle piece reads as though he was here as a relatively young child. The first article says he moved to Ipswich “a few years before” 1929/30, so he could well have been growing up in London through WW1.
Mid-1920s was Hitler’s attempted beer hall coup, subsequent imprisonment and his writing of Mein Kampf. It’s not my thing, so I’m not sure whether there was anti-Jewish sentiment being openly promoted at that time. The Nazi Party law changes attacking Jews were a bit later I think in the early- to mid-30s.
We’ve had a thread on this period before with a link to a long essay. Bumping here, but I haven’t read it -
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| Dubious additional honour on 20:28 - Jun 4 with 550 views | PhilTWTD |
| Dubious additional honour on 19:41 - Jun 4 by Swansea_Blue |
Yes, that middle piece reads as though he was here as a relatively young child. The first article says he moved to Ipswich “a few years before” 1929/30, so he could well have been growing up in London through WW1.
Mid-1920s was Hitler’s attempted beer hall coup, subsequent imprisonment and his writing of Mein Kampf. It’s not my thing, so I’m not sure whether there was anti-Jewish sentiment being openly promoted at that time. The Nazi Party law changes attacking Jews were a bit later I think in the early- to mid-30s.
We’ve had a thread on this period before with a link to a long essay. Bumping here, but I haven’t read it -
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Ah yes, was that thread I was remembering. Churchman said he knew Nat Shaw. | | | |
| Dubious additional honour on 20:29 - Jun 4 with 548 views | PhilTWTD |
| Dubious additional honour on 19:18 - Jun 4 by Trequartista |
boxing or greyhounds? |
Running clothes shops. | | | |
| Dubious additional honour on 20:29 - Jun 4 with 554 views | Fixed_It |
Vaguely related, so bare with me.
I was playing golf with a chap today who used be quite high up in a brewery company based in Bristol. The then chairman of Bristol City (this was 1980s) wanted to meet him to discuss a sponsorship deal to enable them to buy a player for a record fee. He was invited into the boardroom and was amazed at the amount of silverware on display in the cabinets. On expressing his surprise, as he was unaware that they had won so much, the Chairman said 'well, you can't have a boardroom without trophies, can you?'. Basically - they hadn't been 'won'! |  |
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| Dubious additional honour on 20:44 - Jun 4 with 482 views | Keno |
Wasn’t Sir John Cobbold grandma the first English woman to convert to Islam and go on a haji?
What other team could sing that! |  |
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