| Civil unrest around the world 06:57 - Jun 12 with 2377 views | Pippin1970 |
Seeing more and more of it now. Ukraine , Ireland, USA, France etc. The world is changing fast. That's on top of wars around the world or potential ones |  | | |  |
| Civil unrest around the world on 07:06 - Jun 12 with 2297 views | bluebud |
I'd say it's a bit more than civil unrest in Ukraine. As for Ireland, USA and France these to a greater or lesser extent are annual affairs now....just like ours which will happen again this Summer and I suspect will be worse than normal. |  | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 07:09 - Jun 12 with 2285 views | DJR |
What's going on in Ballymena is particular shocking because "foreigners" are being targeted and driven out of their homes.
I visited Ballymena about 35 years ago, and the people are as friendly as anywhere in the UK, but there are clearly very nasty elements and attitudes amongst some of them.
This follows on from similar disturbances in Northern Ireland last summer, and anti-immigrant riots in Dublin a couple of years ago.
To me it is a very sad because both Protestants and Catholics in Ireland have over the centuries had to leave their own land to improve their lot, so one might think there would be more enlightened attitudes to migrants in their own land. [Post edited 12 Jun 7:43]
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| Civil unrest around the world on 07:30 - Jun 12 with 2170 views | BlueBadger |
Civil unrest in France is just what we call 'Wednesday', here. |  |
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| Civil unrest around the world on 07:35 - Jun 12 with 2156 views | StokieBlue |
Those all seem to have different triggers and reasons though.
The US for instance is because the head of the government is creating the problems.
Then you have social media which just amplifies everything.
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| Civil unrest around the world on 07:40 - Jun 12 with 2147 views | DJR |
Wars and civil unrest have consequences.
I heard this story on the World Service this morning. The report also said that other countries were cutting aid, and the UK clearly won't be able to come to the rescue because it is doing the same.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dew7zyg49o
Hundreds of thousands of people are "slowly starving" in Kenyan refugee camps after US funding cuts reduced food rations to their lowest ever levels, a United Nations official has told the BBC.
The impact is starkly visible at a hospital in the sprawling Kakuma camp in the north-west of the East African nation. It is home to roughly 300,000 refugees who have fled strife in countries across Africa and the Middle East.
Emaciated children fill a 30-bed ward at Kakuma's Amusait Hospital, staring blankly at visitors as they receive treatment for severe acute malnutrition.
One baby, Hellen, barely moves. Parts of her skin are wrinkled and peeling, leaving angry patches of red - the result of malnutrition, a medic tells the BBC.
Across the aisle lies a nine-month-old baby, James, the eighth child of Agnes Awila, a refugee from northern Uganda.
"The food is not enough, my children eat only once a day. If there's no food what do you feed them?" she asks.
James, Hellen and thousands of other refugees in Kakuma depend on the UN's World Food Programme (WFP) for vital sustenance.
But the agency had to drastically reduce its aid operations in many countries after President Donald Trump announced sweeping cuts to US foreign aid programmes earlier this year, as part of his "America First" policy.
The US had provided around 70% of the funding for the WFP's operations in Kenya.
The WFP says that as a result of the cuts, the agency has had to slash the refugees' rations to 30% of the minimum recommended amount a person should eat to stay healthy. [Post edited 12 Jun 8:06]
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| Civil unrest around the world on 07:43 - Jun 12 with 2129 views | WeWereZombies |
It is difficult to know if the apparent growth in unrest is actually happening or whether we are just becoming more aware of something that has always gone on due to better reporting and the spread of information gathering through the internet and then the subsequent peer review with a more rigorous (with the exception of Facebook and its like) appraisal.
The unwelcome demise of the BBC's 'HARDtalk' interviews has got me watching JOhn Simpson's 'Unspun World' ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002dbht/unspun-world-with-john-simpson-se for the latest episode) and an episode last year stated that were one hundred and ten wars going on in the World at that time. A startling statistic and it always good to be well prepared with information about disorder before you travel, nevertheless I have touched seventy three different jurisdictions in my seventy years and only heard gunfire in four of them. When I did find myself in the middle of a revolution I was surprised at how civilised and tolerant the Tunisians I was interacting with were. It was something that was almost inevitable and they got on with life as best they could...and so did I. Munitions can exacerbate conflict but practically everyone wants a peaceful life and it is our own conduct that is the key to finding a path to that goal in practically every situation. |  |
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| Civil unrest around the world on 08:00 - Jun 12 with 2012 views | NthQldITFC |
There's less free space left in everything and consequently pressure is rising. I think this applies on a physical level as well as on environmental, social and economic levels.
I suppose the root cause is natural societal 'evolution' within a fixed sized space - we're more numerous and far cleverer at converting energy into 'mass' (both desired 'mass' and waste 'mass') without constraining ourselves by considering health and happiness, so the pressure just rises and rises.
Compound that with the imbalance driven by the red-eyed, crazed gluttony of the super-rich (and the promotion of that disease to their aspirational followers - most of us) and the physical and psychological impact on the masses results in an understandable, arguably enlightened, desire to tear the whole cancerous, growth-focussed, suicidal fallacy to pieces. [Post edited 12 Jun 8:02]
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| Civil unrest around the world on 08:11 - Jun 12 with 1927 views | DJR |
| Civil unrest around the world on 07:43 - Jun 12 by WeWereZombies |
It is difficult to know if the apparent growth in unrest is actually happening or whether we are just becoming more aware of something that has always gone on due to better reporting and the spread of information gathering through the internet and then the subsequent peer review with a more rigorous (with the exception of Facebook and its like) appraisal.
The unwelcome demise of the BBC's 'HARDtalk' interviews has got me watching JOhn Simpson's 'Unspun World' ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002dbht/unspun-world-with-john-simpson-se for the latest episode) and an episode last year stated that were one hundred and ten wars going on in the World at that time. A startling statistic and it always good to be well prepared with information about disorder before you travel, nevertheless I have touched seventy three different jurisdictions in my seventy years and only heard gunfire in four of them. When I did find myself in the middle of a revolution I was surprised at how civilised and tolerant the Tunisians I was interacting with were. It was something that was almost inevitable and they got on with life as best they could...and so did I. Munitions can exacerbate conflict but practically everyone wants a peaceful life and it is our own conduct that is the key to finding a path to that goal in practically every situation. |
If you include wars, there certainly been a great increase in displaced people since the 1950s. A lot of it has happened since the 1990s and it could well be that the Cold War had its advantages because it kept conflicts in check.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1309846/refugees-displaced-worldwide/
Since the 1950s, the number of forcibly displaced persons recognized by the United Nations has increased drastically; from around 2.1 million international refugees in 1951 to almost 123 million displaced persons in total in 2023. Annual figures are not reflective of the actual number of forcibly displaced people in the world, but rather the number of people identified as such by the UN. Preliminary figures for 2024 show that this figure may now reach the 125 million mark, with major new crises in Sudan and Palestine sending this figure higher, after the Russia-Ukraine War pushed this figure past 100 million people for the first time in 2022. | | | |
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| Civil unrest around the world on 08:20 - Jun 12 with 1891 views | WeWereZombies |
| Civil unrest around the world on 07:40 - Jun 12 by DJR |
Wars and civil unrest have consequences.
I heard this story on the World Service this morning. The report also said that other countries were cutting aid, and the UK clearly won't be able to come to the rescue because it is doing the same.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dew7zyg49o
Hundreds of thousands of people are "slowly starving" in Kenyan refugee camps after US funding cuts reduced food rations to their lowest ever levels, a United Nations official has told the BBC.
The impact is starkly visible at a hospital in the sprawling Kakuma camp in the north-west of the East African nation. It is home to roughly 300,000 refugees who have fled strife in countries across Africa and the Middle East.
Emaciated children fill a 30-bed ward at Kakuma's Amusait Hospital, staring blankly at visitors as they receive treatment for severe acute malnutrition.
One baby, Hellen, barely moves. Parts of her skin are wrinkled and peeling, leaving angry patches of red - the result of malnutrition, a medic tells the BBC.
Across the aisle lies a nine-month-old baby, James, the eighth child of Agnes Awila, a refugee from northern Uganda.
"The food is not enough, my children eat only once a day. If there's no food what do you feed them?" she asks.
James, Hellen and thousands of other refugees in Kakuma depend on the UN's World Food Programme (WFP) for vital sustenance.
But the agency had to drastically reduce its aid operations in many countries after President Donald Trump announced sweeping cuts to US foreign aid programmes earlier this year, as part of his "America First" policy.
The US had provided around 70% of the funding for the WFP's operations in Kenya.
The WFP says that as a result of the cuts, the agency has had to slash the refugees' rations to 30% of the minimum recommended amount a person should eat to stay healthy. [Post edited 12 Jun 8:06]
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Although another aspect of Trump's 'populist' cuts to aid is the exposure that support from richer economies is just a sticking plaster solution. Africa can, and probably will, throw off the dependency culture to improve healthcare and food distribution throughout the continent over the coming decades. A recent interview with Akinwumi Adesina, president of the African Development Bank, points out that by the middle of the century over half of the World's food will come from Africa and that most of the high growth rates of GDP are in Africa (although there are major credit defaults too, as a result of historic imbalances in financial systems for the most part.)
If we couple that with falling birth rates in Europe, Asia and the Americas but rising birth rates in Africa and the need to maintain a base, and a younger base, for global population so that production and healthcare (including care of the elderly) can be maintained then I think a more respectful and appreciative attitude to migrants could result. | |
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| Civil unrest around the world on 08:21 - Jun 12 with 1890 views | bsw72 |
Key word is seeing. I don't think there is an increase in civil unrest, there is an increase in news coverage. As for the world changing - it always has done.
We often saw coverage in the 70s of street troubles in Ireland, riots in US, political uprisings in Africa, Eastern europe - but it was on the 6pm news, the 9pm news and the daily papers.
These days we have 24 hrs news channels, internet news, social media - it is everywhere, and often what would not even have made the news 10 years ago, is featured and analyzed to the nth degree. |  | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 08:26 - Jun 12 with 1871 views | NedPlimpton |
There's always been civil unrest. I don't think what's going on in the world at this particular time is unique
In the last decade or so alone we've had the Arab Spring Uprising and the George Floyd protests.
France, Northern Ireland and LA are all certainly no strangers to civil unrest.
Imagine if social media or 24hr rolling news updates existed during the poll tax riots or the miners strikes. The problem would have been amplified beyond belief. Everything just seems worse now in order to get clicks and views |  | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 08:32 - Jun 12 with 1827 views | WeWereZombies |
| Civil unrest around the world on 08:26 - Jun 12 by NedPlimpton |
There's always been civil unrest. I don't think what's going on in the world at this particular time is unique
In the last decade or so alone we've had the Arab Spring Uprising and the George Floyd protests.
France, Northern Ireland and LA are all certainly no strangers to civil unrest.
Imagine if social media or 24hr rolling news updates existed during the poll tax riots or the miners strikes. The problem would have been amplified beyond belief. Everything just seems worse now in order to get clicks and views |
The Arab Spring actually started well over a decade ago, it was brewing in December 2010 - not that reporting in the United Kingdom picked up on it until I was leaving the Grand Erg and heading back to Tunis the following month... | |
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| Civil unrest around the world on 08:54 - Jun 12 with 1776 views | Guthrum |
Some of that is down to reporting. The press covers what people are currently interested in. Fierce wars can be raging, but hardly noticed in the UK (Myanmar being a good example). Social struggles likewise (e.g. the strife in various Pacific islands, often about relations with China).
It is true that we are coming out of a period of relative stability in our region of the World. An era in which the post-WWII order was enhanced by the end of the Cold War, the development of new technology and the continuing spread of socially liberal ideas.
However, that period did not deliver the more even prosperity (social and geographical) which was promised. There was, in reality, a huge boost in living standards for the majority between the 1960s/70s and now, but accompanied by massive inflation. Also, people expected even more and some sectors felt left behind - it's all about perceptions.
The pace of change itself has unsettled many (not just older reactionaries, but also those - sometimes youths - brought up on myths of a better/easier life for people like them). This has been boosted by influence (meddling, even) from places and regimes where Western social liberalism is not regarded so highly.
There was bound to be a reaction. The events of 1848-49 in Europe were followed by a crackdown.
It's not so much that the world is changing, more that it is returning to a historical norm under pressure from struggles for resources and influence. I can well remember the 1980s, a time of protests, riots, football violence, terrorism and unrest in the UK.
On a side note: The current LA situation is a mirror of January 6th 2021 in Washington. A segment of the population feeling dienfranchised by a bipolar government system which the public's ability to influence is limited once the vote is cast and policies unfavourable to them become inevitable. |  |
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| Civil unrest around the world on 10:11 - Jun 12 with 1602 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Civil unrest around the world on 07:09 - Jun 12 by DJR |
What's going on in Ballymena is particular shocking because "foreigners" are being targeted and driven out of their homes.
I visited Ballymena about 35 years ago, and the people are as friendly as anywhere in the UK, but there are clearly very nasty elements and attitudes amongst some of them.
This follows on from similar disturbances in Northern Ireland last summer, and anti-immigrant riots in Dublin a couple of years ago.
To me it is a very sad because both Protestants and Catholics in Ireland have over the centuries had to leave their own land to improve their lot, so one might think there would be more enlightened attitudes to migrants in their own land. [Post edited 12 Jun 7:43]
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Ballymena is shocking. It seems to be mostly kids, running around torching stuff and attacking anything immigrant-related. We’re stuffed if that’s how kids are being brought up in some places now. |  |
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| Civil unrest around the world on 12:37 - Jun 12 with 1442 views | Guthrum |
| Civil unrest around the world on 08:11 - Jun 12 by DJR |
If you include wars, there certainly been a great increase in displaced people since the 1950s. A lot of it has happened since the 1990s and it could well be that the Cold War had its advantages because it kept conflicts in check.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1309846/refugees-displaced-worldwide/
Since the 1950s, the number of forcibly displaced persons recognized by the United Nations has increased drastically; from around 2.1 million international refugees in 1951 to almost 123 million displaced persons in total in 2023. Annual figures are not reflective of the actual number of forcibly displaced people in the world, but rather the number of people identified as such by the UN. Preliminary figures for 2024 show that this figure may now reach the 125 million mark, with major new crises in Sudan and Palestine sending this figure higher, after the Russia-Ukraine War pushed this figure past 100 million people for the first time in 2022. |
Tho the problem with that graph is knowing what proportion of the figure is down to new and widened categories, rather than an actual increase in the number of people who would have qualified under all modern criteria.
The largest element - and most sizeable increase - is Internally Displaced Persons (something only recorded from 1993). Thus the figures for 1951 do not include the sizeable populations deported by Stalin from their homelands to elsewhere in the USSR. Technically, the Chinese Nationalists who had fled to Taiwan would be similarly categorised. As would refugees on both sides fleeing fighting in the Korean War.
The base number in 1951 is too low to account for the many millions of Germans who had fled or been thrown out of former East Prussia, Silesia, Czechoslovakia, east of the Oder, etc. after the War. Plus the over 1m Poles ejected from the Soviet-annexed eastern parts of the pre-1939 country. | |
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| Civil unrest around the world on 09:18 - Jun 13 with 1113 views | DJR |
| Civil unrest around the world on 10:11 - Jun 12 by Swansea_Blue |
Ballymena is shocking. It seems to be mostly kids, running around torching stuff and attacking anything immigrant-related. We’re stuffed if that’s how kids are being brought up in some places now. |
From what I have seen there are quite a lot of adults also involved.
And here's something further that is rather shocking.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/12/northern-ireland-leisure-centre-
"Michelle O’Neill accuses DUP minister of inflaming racial tensions on social media
Gordon Lyons rejects calls to resign after posting information about leisure centre hours before it was set on fire"
This follows on from the following unhelpful comment from Jim Allister who is an MP and leader of Traditional Ulster Voice. He said there had been "rapid demographic change" in Ballymena in recent years and claimed a "failure of successive authorities to manage integration or address local concerns has left many residents feeling ignored and disrespected".
Interestingly though, a report on international migration said that only 3.4% of Northern Ireland's population (65,600 people) are from a minority ethnic group. That compares to 18.3% in England and Wales, and 12.9% in Scotland. [Post edited 13 Jun 9:19]
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| Civil unrest around the world on 09:53 - Jun 13 with 1016 views | leitrimblue |
| Civil unrest around the world on 09:18 - Jun 13 by DJR |
From what I have seen there are quite a lot of adults also involved.
And here's something further that is rather shocking.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/12/northern-ireland-leisure-centre-
"Michelle O’Neill accuses DUP minister of inflaming racial tensions on social media
Gordon Lyons rejects calls to resign after posting information about leisure centre hours before it was set on fire"
This follows on from the following unhelpful comment from Jim Allister who is an MP and leader of Traditional Ulster Voice. He said there had been "rapid demographic change" in Ballymena in recent years and claimed a "failure of successive authorities to manage integration or address local concerns has left many residents feeling ignored and disrespected".
Interestingly though, a report on international migration said that only 3.4% of Northern Ireland's population (65,600 people) are from a minority ethnic group. That compares to 18.3% in England and Wales, and 12.9% in Scotland. [Post edited 13 Jun 9:19]
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Ballymena is just pure racism from the usual DUP supporting morons |  | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 12:52 - Jun 13 with 929 views | bluejacko |
| Civil unrest around the world on 09:53 - Jun 13 by leitrimblue |
Ballymena is just pure racism from the usual DUP supporting morons |
Belfast,Portadown,Colraine plus a few others ALL just racism? Come on you know better than that,
is what’s happening down there just racism to? Agreed the violence is counterproductive and stupid but there are issues to be sorted. | | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 13:12 - Jun 13 with 880 views | Kievthegreat |
| Civil unrest around the world on 12:52 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
Belfast,Portadown,Colraine plus a few others ALL just racism? Come on you know better than that,
is what’s happening down there just racism to? Agreed the violence is counterproductive and stupid but there are issues to be sorted. |
Just like the riots in response to Southport. Yes they are racists. They are targeting homes of people who aren't 'local'. People are sticking Union Jacks in the windows hoping it will deter people from attacking their homes. A leisure Centre was set on fire because it was reported to be sheltering people from the racist mob. What do you need? Someone in a balaclava to say, "yeah, we don't like these foreigners"? |  | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 13:27 - Jun 13 with 854 views | mellowblue |
| Civil unrest around the world on 12:37 - Jun 12 by Guthrum |
Tho the problem with that graph is knowing what proportion of the figure is down to new and widened categories, rather than an actual increase in the number of people who would have qualified under all modern criteria.
The largest element - and most sizeable increase - is Internally Displaced Persons (something only recorded from 1993). Thus the figures for 1951 do not include the sizeable populations deported by Stalin from their homelands to elsewhere in the USSR. Technically, the Chinese Nationalists who had fled to Taiwan would be similarly categorised. As would refugees on both sides fleeing fighting in the Korean War.
The base number in 1951 is too low to account for the many millions of Germans who had fled or been thrown out of former East Prussia, Silesia, Czechoslovakia, east of the Oder, etc. after the War. Plus the over 1m Poles ejected from the Soviet-annexed eastern parts of the pre-1939 country. |
You can add in an estimated 15 million involved in the partitioning of India into India and Pakistan in 1948. East Pakistan went on to be renamed Bangladesh. | | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 13:59 - Jun 13 with 795 views | leitrimblue |
| Civil unrest around the world on 12:52 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
Belfast,Portadown,Colraine plus a few others ALL just racism? Come on you know better than that,
is what’s happening down there just racism to? Agreed the violence is counterproductive and stupid but there are issues to be sorted. |
Yer, clearly burning out the homes of all non Irish/Brit/protestant families is clearly racism.
Why, what do you think it is?
What are these issues?
The 3.5% of foreigners in the North? | | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 17:05 - Jun 13 with 659 views | bluejacko |
| Civil unrest around the world on 13:59 - Jun 13 by leitrimblue |
Yer, clearly burning out the homes of all non Irish/Brit/protestant families is clearly racism.
Why, what do you think it is?
What are these issues?
The 3.5% of foreigners in the North? |
No issues in the republic then?Carrickmacross,Letterkenny ,Dublin among others,did the DUP scum come down and incite that? I’ve said the violence was unacceptable but believe it or not the majority of “scum” behaved themselves. The police have said there was no para- military involvement so why come on here accusing a political party being behind it? Do you know something we don’t? Of course some racists were involved but didn’t arson attacks occur around Dublin way? When you have your own house in order THEN you can spend your time preaching the good book!until then👍 | | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 09:05 - Jun 14 with 409 views | DJR |
| Civil unrest around the world on 12:37 - Jun 12 by Guthrum |
Tho the problem with that graph is knowing what proportion of the figure is down to new and widened categories, rather than an actual increase in the number of people who would have qualified under all modern criteria.
The largest element - and most sizeable increase - is Internally Displaced Persons (something only recorded from 1993). Thus the figures for 1951 do not include the sizeable populations deported by Stalin from their homelands to elsewhere in the USSR. Technically, the Chinese Nationalists who had fled to Taiwan would be similarly categorised. As would refugees on both sides fleeing fighting in the Korean War.
The base number in 1951 is too low to account for the many millions of Germans who had fled or been thrown out of former East Prussia, Silesia, Czechoslovakia, east of the Oder, etc. after the War. Plus the over 1m Poles ejected from the Soviet-annexed eastern parts of the pre-1939 country. |
I realise it is difficult to compare 1951 with now because some of the information was not kept then, and no doubt WW2 would have involved large movements too.
This is why I referred to the increase from the 1990s when such information was available. Certainly I am not aware of there being quite so many failed states as there have been in more recent times.
As regards the period we can compare, there were 16 million refugees in 1993 and 32 million in 2024: there were 4 million internally displaced persons in 1993 and 67 million in 2024: and there were 750,000 asylum seekers in 1993 and 8 million in 2024. All of this suggests a rather alarming direction of travel.
It is also worth mentioning that according to Wikipedia there were 6 million internally moved people in the USSR between 1930 and 1952, although such people probably wouldn't count under current definition of internally displaced persons because such movements weren't as a result of armed conflict and the like. [Post edited 14 Jun 9:19]
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| Civil unrest around the world on 11:10 - Jun 14 with 294 views | leitrimblue |
| Civil unrest around the world on 17:05 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
No issues in the republic then?Carrickmacross,Letterkenny ,Dublin among others,did the DUP scum come down and incite that? I’ve said the violence was unacceptable but believe it or not the majority of “scum” behaved themselves. The police have said there was no para- military involvement so why come on here accusing a political party being behind it? Do you know something we don’t? Of course some racists were involved but didn’t arson attacks occur around Dublin way? When you have your own house in order THEN you can spend your time preaching the good book!until then👍 |
What I posted was that ' Ballymena is just pure racism from the usual DUP supporting morons'.
Would you like to point out which part of this post is untrue rather then posting a load of waffle that doesn't address the post.
I'm not sure where you got the word 'scum' from. But I guess it wouldn't be a harsh term for the kinda morons that attempt to burn down a sports centre while kids are in the middle of a swimming lesson, because there maybe some foreigners inside.
Also not sure what your reference to Carrickmacross, Letterkenny or Dublin is about. Did you think I would defend these people because they were in the Republic? Odd enough. These people are also clearly not the brightest, but at least they stopped short of burning down the houses of everyone slightly different to themselves that doesn't put the Bratach ne hEireanne in the window.
Just like you've chosen to use the word scum even though I didn't use it I also never mentioned para military involvement. I said they were DUP supporting.
As I was born in England I just find that line about 'My own house in order' is just weird as feck. 
Because your clearly struggling , I thought I'd make a suggestion of a wiser grown up reply to my OP.
'Yes Leitrim, whats going on in Ballymena is disgusting, there's no justification for burning down the homes of innocent families etc. I hope they throw the book at those responsible'.
There yer go, not so hard was it. | | | |
| Civil unrest around the world on 11:22 - Jun 14 with 263 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Civil unrest around the world on 11:10 - Jun 14 by leitrimblue |
What I posted was that ' Ballymena is just pure racism from the usual DUP supporting morons'.
Would you like to point out which part of this post is untrue rather then posting a load of waffle that doesn't address the post.
I'm not sure where you got the word 'scum' from. But I guess it wouldn't be a harsh term for the kinda morons that attempt to burn down a sports centre while kids are in the middle of a swimming lesson, because there maybe some foreigners inside.
Also not sure what your reference to Carrickmacross, Letterkenny or Dublin is about. Did you think I would defend these people because they were in the Republic? Odd enough. These people are also clearly not the brightest, but at least they stopped short of burning down the houses of everyone slightly different to themselves that doesn't put the Bratach ne hEireanne in the window.
Just like you've chosen to use the word scum even though I didn't use it I also never mentioned para military involvement. I said they were DUP supporting.
As I was born in England I just find that line about 'My own house in order' is just weird as feck.
Because your clearly struggling , I thought I'd make a suggestion of a wiser grown up reply to my OP.
'Yes Leitrim, whats going on in Ballymena is disgusting, there's no justification for burning down the homes of innocent families etc. I hope they throw the book at those responsible'.
There yer go, not so hard was it. |
There were no reports of violence, nor arrests in Letterkenny. Just people expressing opposing views on immigration, although there was a string Gardi presence just in case.
Assume he was referring to events on 3rd May. |  |
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