| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... 14:32 - Jun 12 with 2253 views | nrb1985 |
Just listened to the KoA interview they just put out with MA. Got me thinking, really is a thankless task being a football CEO vs. many other white collar roles.
MA has been incredibly successful for four years now. Poor guy sounds tired though, exhausted almost. Long summer ahead of being jerked around by agents and player entourages. Long hours. Probably puts a strain on family life and you miss a few milestones along the way I would imagine. And probably the most tiresome of all would be that EVERYBODY, qualified or not, has an opinion on how you could do things better!
To make it analogous to any other "high profile" office role, it's about now when you're feeling totally settled in a role, you've proven yourself beyond doubt. You can get away with rolling in at 0930 on occasion, leave at 5 most days and take a long lunch etc with your team ready to cover. And of course, head off on hols with your family for a couple of weeks - recover and recharge.
The only way I think I could do what he does, is if it was a fixed contract and you had a chunk of equity to participate in any upside success of the business. I guess MA must have some equity but not sure I could do what he does for an unspecified period.
Him, KM and the other staff who all supposedly put in these relentlessly long hours have my total admiration. [Post edited 12 Jun 14:51]
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:42 - Jun 12 with 2119 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
He would make life easier for himself if he wasn't Chairman and CEO. He would have someone to take counsel from and to share the burden.
His choice though it seems..... |  |
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:45 - Jun 12 with 2088 views | blueoutlook |
Not much fun ? He earns a fortune,doesn’t have to do it. He loves it. He has more roles than he needs. Shouldn’t have been CEO. He needed to be under someone like he was with OLeary. Who he could bounce things off with. But his ego meant when offered he took that role as well. Now he has only himself to answer to this side of the pond. |  | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:47 - Jun 12 with 2057 views | OldFart71 |
And of course he is taking advice from others as to who the Town recruits.
I remember hearing that back in the Burley management days players like Mateo Sereni and Finidi George were recommended to George.
In the case of Sereni it was alleged that it was Sven G E who recommended him.
This may be total rubbish ?
But it does show how many outside influences are coming at you touting players.
Also at the same time development of various parts of the ground and training facilities and the possible sale of players. All need to be got right because there are thousands of part time managers in the form of fans telling you that so and so should have been got and so and so should be sold. Also local and National press coming up with names and suggestions as to how you should play and who you need. | | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:49 - Jun 12 with 2022 views | nrb1985 |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:45 - Jun 12 by blueoutlook |
Not much fun ? He earns a fortune,doesn’t have to do it. He loves it. He has more roles than he needs. Shouldn’t have been CEO. He needed to be under someone like he was with OLeary. Who he could bounce things off with. But his ego meant when offered he took that role as well. Now he has only himself to answer to this side of the pond. |
You can get paid a fortune in other roles and not have to work from 6am to midnight, while also trying to appease 30k people every other weekend too.
That was rather the point of my post... [Post edited 12 Jun 14:51]
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:51 - Jun 12 with 1986 views | blueoutlook |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:49 - Jun 12 by nrb1985 |
You can get paid a fortune in other roles and not have to work from 6am to midnight, while also trying to appease 30k people every other weekend too.
That was rather the point of my post... [Post edited 12 Jun 14:51]
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As l say,he could walk away,but his ego wouldn’t let him. He didn’t need to be chairman and CEO, but he chose to do it all himself. I’m sure other options were discussed at the time, Gamechanger are too professional not to have looked at other ideas. He must have told them he could do it all. | | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:52 - Jun 12 with 1984 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:49 - Jun 12 by nrb1985 |
You can get paid a fortune in other roles and not have to work from 6am to midnight, while also trying to appease 30k people every other weekend too.
That was rather the point of my post... [Post edited 12 Jun 14:51]
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I think you'll find most CEO's work long hours and have similar drive / commitment. Its a lifestyle choice. | |
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:53 - Jun 12 with 1966 views | TractorJack |
Stressful yes, especially if you want to do as much as possible yourself. But that's why you need to hire good people and delegate. |  | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:57 - Jun 12 with 1922 views | textbackup |
Finds the energy and time to fit in daily gym sessions (not saying he shouldn’t BTW, just that he does) |  |
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:01 - Jun 12 with 1870 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:42 - Jun 12 by Marshalls_Mullet |
He would make life easier for himself if he wasn't Chairman and CEO. He would have someone to take counsel from and to share the burden.
His choice though it seems..... |
There is nothing stopping him taking council from others - and I'm sure he does.
In a typical organisation, a Chairman is rarely involved or seen day-to-day. Their role is only to 'coordinate' the board of directors, and the BoD's role is one of oversight and corporate governance. Nothing to do with the day-to-day operations. If the members of the BoD is strong and doing their job correctly, the Chairman's job is limited. In fact many individuals are Chairman of the BoD in many companies.
Do I think they should be separated? Yes - it can offer better optics. Does it fundamentally matter? No - and in fact it's normal for the CEO to be on the BoDs anyway, so are part of the BoD oversight anyway, | | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:11 - Jun 12 with 1779 views | bsw72 |
Being in charge of anything is hard work, getting paid well doesn't make it fun, but can make it worthwhile. |  | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:15 - Jun 12 with 1747 views | nrb1985 |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:51 - Jun 12 by blueoutlook |
As l say,he could walk away,but his ego wouldn’t let him. He didn’t need to be chairman and CEO, but he chose to do it all himself. I’m sure other options were discussed at the time, Gamechanger are too professional not to have looked at other ideas. He must have told them he could do it all. |
You can't really just walk away if you're an equity holder. | | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:16 - Jun 12 with 1740 views | nrb1985 |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:52 - Jun 12 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I think you'll find most CEO's work long hours and have similar drive / commitment. Its a lifestyle choice. |
well aware of that thanks.
Football I think is somewhat unique, for many of the reasons I've already described. | | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:18 - Jun 12 with 1720 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:01 - Jun 12 by SuffolkPunchFC |
There is nothing stopping him taking council from others - and I'm sure he does.
In a typical organisation, a Chairman is rarely involved or seen day-to-day. Their role is only to 'coordinate' the board of directors, and the BoD's role is one of oversight and corporate governance. Nothing to do with the day-to-day operations. If the members of the BoD is strong and doing their job correctly, the Chairman's job is limited. In fact many individuals are Chairman of the BoD in many companies.
Do I think they should be separated? Yes - it can offer better optics. Does it fundamentally matter? No - and in fact it's normal for the CEO to be on the BoDs anyway, so are part of the BoD oversight anyway, |
Happy to agree to differ.
I think the close relationship between a CEO and Chairman can be vital in terms of support. As was the case with the previous Chairman.
He's just making life harder for himself. | |
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:20 - Jun 12 with 1709 views | ArnieM |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:51 - Jun 12 by blueoutlook |
As l say,he could walk away,but his ego wouldn’t let him. He didn’t need to be chairman and CEO, but he chose to do it all himself. I’m sure other options were discussed at the time, Gamechanger are too professional not to have looked at other ideas. He must have told them he could do it all. |
Ove seen this chairman and CEO role being taken up by one individual in a totally different business model. Its not a healthy situation in my humble view, and if both situations/ individuals are driven by the same force then it's not comfortable for other employees around that individual because there is an imbalance in power within the organisation, that can lead to wrong decisions. I hope this is not going to be the case at Ipswich. |  |
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:54 - Jun 12 with 1552 views | Guthrum |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 14:57 - Jun 12 by textbackup |
Finds the energy and time to fit in daily gym sessions (not saying he shouldn’t BTW, just that he does) |
Probably one of the ways he de-stresses. |  |
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 16:32 - Jun 12 with 1421 views | Sharkey |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:20 - Jun 12 by ArnieM |
Ove seen this chairman and CEO role being taken up by one individual in a totally different business model. Its not a healthy situation in my humble view, and if both situations/ individuals are driven by the same force then it's not comfortable for other employees around that individual because there is an imbalance in power within the organisation, that can lead to wrong decisions. I hope this is not going to be the case at Ipswich. |
Not very profound, but I liked the ying and yang when the last chairman was still in place. One brash and a bit 'look at me', the other slightly tweed jacket, or Cobbold--ish. ( I like to think the latter would have suggested the stadium announcer stop shrieking so much.) |  | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 18:20 - Jun 12 with 1173 views | Illinoisblue |
Club paid out 17million in promotion bonuses last year, of which I’m sure he got a very nice wedge. Deserved, of course, but I’ll spare my concerns for tired nurses and teachers. |  |
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 18:55 - Jun 12 with 1006 views | Churchman |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 15:01 - Jun 12 by SuffolkPunchFC |
There is nothing stopping him taking council from others - and I'm sure he does.
In a typical organisation, a Chairman is rarely involved or seen day-to-day. Their role is only to 'coordinate' the board of directors, and the BoD's role is one of oversight and corporate governance. Nothing to do with the day-to-day operations. If the members of the BoD is strong and doing their job correctly, the Chairman's job is limited. In fact many individuals are Chairman of the BoD in many companies.
Do I think they should be separated? Yes - it can offer better optics. Does it fundamentally matter? No - and in fact it's normal for the CEO to be on the BoDs anyway, so are part of the BoD oversight anyway, |
I suspect your post is more how it is than some of the others, but who knows.
O’Leary was barely there last season, apart from match days. He’d done his job with the deal and lives in the West Country. He was hardly stalking the corridors of PR on a daily basis or sitting in his office with a glass of scotch and a copy of Shoot.
He was though clearly somebody MA could bounce stuff off. Whether he was a moderating influence or final decision maker I’m not sure. I suspect that’s always been the Americans, given it’s their money. He has said on many occasions he’s on the phone every day with them and Ed Schwarz seems to be a key figure.
Clearly the CEO is accountable for the club’s performance in and off the field, from delivery of projects to the success or otherwise of the team. After last season on the pitch, I suspect he’s had a bit of explaining to do and rightly so. By and large, Americans don’t tend to mess about. |  | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 19:08 - Jun 12 with 958 views | nrb1985 |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 18:20 - Jun 12 by Illinoisblue |
Club paid out 17million in promotion bonuses last year, of which I’m sure he got a very nice wedge. Deserved, of course, but I’ll spare my concerns for tired nurses and teachers. |
Sorry but what on earth is the point of this post?
Just because public servants get a raw deal (which I agree with), you aren’t allowed to show gratitude or be impressed by the work ethic of somebody who gets paid well?! | | | |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 19:25 - Jun 12 with 876 views | Illinoisblue |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 19:08 - Jun 12 by nrb1985 |
Sorry but what on earth is the point of this post?
Just because public servants get a raw deal (which I agree with), you aren’t allowed to show gratitude or be impressed by the work ethic of somebody who gets paid well?! |
If we’re going that route, what was the point of your original pity party post for Ashton? | |
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| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 19:35 - Jun 12 with 840 views | nrb1985 |
| KoA Ashton Interview: Being a football CEO, not much fun... on 19:25 - Jun 12 by Illinoisblue |
If we’re going that route, what was the point of your original pity party post for Ashton? |
It’s an Ipswich town football club forum mate and I’ve posted it on the football thread. | | | |
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