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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? 22:08 - Aug 9 with 877 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Do fans actually know the rule? I’m not just talking about bias from Brum either, even some experts seems to be saying it should not have been awarded.

Very much suspect that VAR would have stopped the game and awarded it in the PL if not seen live. You can use your arms to jump but can’t have your hand up like that, as soon as Greaves wins the header and it hits his hand that’s above any other part of his body it’s a penalty. Had a rather interesting game did the ref but a decent spot there and didn’t bottle it.

The first big call was more a debate on the disallowed goal but jumped into the defender with both feet off the ground. As most will know on here I’m fairly quick to point out some of our fans bias or annoyance at officiating but he’s gets both those correct for me last night.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:14 - Aug 9 with 787 viewsClutch

Yeah, it was 100% a penalty.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:17 - Aug 9 with 764 viewsRonFearonsHair

Tangential to your point, I'm surprised at how much I am seeing reference to a 'disallowed goal'. The referee blew the whistle well before the striker popped it in.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:17 - Aug 9 with 757 viewsLankHenners

Couldn't catch the game live but was seeing all this stuff about the pen obviously then when I eventually caught a clip of it it made me laugh as I couldn't believe it was being considered contentious. He has his arms well above his head and the ball strikes him on the hand ffs!

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:20 - Aug 9 with 729 viewsiamatractorboy

You still hear the odd fan (and even 'expert' pundit/co-comms) saying stuff like 'he's got the ball' when a player carries out a dangerous tackle and mysteriously gets booked/sent off, so it doesn't surprise me to hear people don't know some of the fairly basic laws.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:21 - Aug 9 with 705 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:17 - Aug 9 by LankHenners

Couldn't catch the game live but was seeing all this stuff about the pen obviously then when I eventually caught a clip of it it made me laugh as I couldn't believe it was being considered contentious. He has his arms well above his head and the ball strikes him on the hand ffs!


Do people think you literally have to be trying to block it with your hand for it to be awarded? Everyone grew up with the phrase ‘intentional’ maybe?

Theres a reason defenders now do that annoying out your hands behind your back when blocking shots, I don’t mind debate on decisions but it’s clear people have no idea about the handball law?

It’s a nailed on penalty, all this robbed by the ref? FFS!

I still expect the manager to moan about it because I generally believe they think this gets in refs heads as the season progresses but these so called experts and general fans?
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:24 - Aug 9 with 655 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:17 - Aug 9 by RonFearonsHair

Tangential to your point, I'm surprised at how much I am seeing reference to a 'disallowed goal'. The referee blew the whistle well before the striker popped it in.


Yes, I heard it clear as day but I don’t think Palmer was stopping it.

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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:24 - Aug 9 with 654 viewsTresBonne

100% a penalty, although I do sympathise with them on the disallowed goal.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:57 - Aug 9 with 531 viewsSitfcB

The Birmingham manager was even more annoyed it was awarded after seeing it only ‘brushed his fingers’

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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 23:29 - Aug 9 with 411 viewsFixed_It

Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 22:17 - Aug 9 by RonFearonsHair

Tangential to your point, I'm surprised at how much I am seeing reference to a 'disallowed goal'. The referee blew the whistle well before the striker popped it in.


Referee blew. Everyone stopped. Player shot. Ball went in. That's not a 'disallowed goal'. I was surprised the crowd reacted because I heard the whistle clearly from the other end of the pitch.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 23:34 - Aug 9 with 389 viewsSomersetractor

Agree. Great spot by ref.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 23:43 - Aug 9 with 345 viewsbadadski

Don’t even understand the hoopla over the disallowed goal - it wasn’t disallowed as the ref had blown for the foul before he had even hit the shot. It was essentially time wasting. Not to condone the ref who was appallling for the most part but it was a pen.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 00:19 - Aug 10 with 272 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Think there is genuinely a debate because the ref had a pretty bad game, but it's an unbelievable spot by him. Makes it feel worse than it is,

Penalty all day long, hands flapping in the air, looking like he is going to catch it initially. Dykes is stupid and a player of his experience should do better.

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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 01:43 - Aug 10 with 137 viewsberkstractorboy

I think the vast majority of 'neutral' fans I have seen on social media are all of the opinion it was a clear/stonewall penalty. Only the Brum fans and their blind manager think it wasn't. Brave of the ref to give that against the home team so late in the game, however it was the right call and it shouldn't be debated.

I find it interesting there was very little mention of the O'Shea penalty incident, Brum fans, manager and Sky seem to keep very quiet on that, but guess that was an NFL influenced block being introduced to 'soccer'. Thanks Tom.
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