| What a waste of our taxes on 08:30 - Aug 11 with 481 views | NthQldITFC |
| What a waste of our taxes on 08:22 - Aug 11 by blueasfook |
Turning out to support a proscribed organisation ended in arrests? What an absolute shocker. |
Again, not the point as surely you realise. |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:32 - Aug 11 with 474 views | blueasfook |
| What a waste of our taxes on 13:21 - Aug 10 by lowhouseblue |
well people generally seem ok about staying silent and standing by as horror unfolds in sudan, yeman, nigeria, ukraine, as well as the uyghurs in china. their horror isn't forcing them on to the streets in respect of those humanitarian disasters. |
You dont get to wear a trendy scarf if you're supporting the Uyhgurs. |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:38 - Aug 11 with 439 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| What a waste of our taxes on 08:32 - Aug 11 by blueasfook |
You dont get to wear a trendy scarf if you're supporting the Uyhgurs. |
You should take more notice of your avatar. |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:46 - Aug 11 with 402 views | blueasfook |
| What a waste of our taxes on 19:56 - Aug 10 by noggin |
We've given you answers. What are you doing to protest about the atrocities you have mentioned? You clearly care a lot about them, which is admirable. [Post edited 10 Aug 19:56]
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To be fair, what are you doing to protest about what's going on in Gaza? Other than posting on a football message board? Have you been attending civil protests for example? | |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:48 - Aug 11 with 396 views | positivity |
| What a waste of our taxes on 08:46 - Aug 11 by blueasfook |
To be fair, what are you doing to protest about what's going on in Gaza? Other than posting on a football message board? Have you been attending civil protests for example? |
(might be an idea to change that avatar, given that we're not allowed to swear in the posts themselves!) |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:50 - Aug 11 with 385 views | blueasfook |
| What a waste of our taxes on 08:48 - Aug 11 by positivity |
(might be an idea to change that avatar, given that we're not allowed to swear in the posts themselves!) |
There is a non-sweary version of it - i'll swap it for that! I do love this meme though | |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 09:16 - Aug 11 with 334 views | DJR |
| What a waste of our taxes on 09:30 - Aug 10 by DJR |
A disturbing aspect of the arrests for me is that the founders of Palestine Action have been given permission to challenge the ban.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/palestine-action-terror-ban-high-court-judge-
The case, likely to last three days, will look at whether the terror ban “amounts to a disproportionate interference with the rights to freedom of expression and freedom to protest”, as well as a claim that proscription was imposed without proper consultation with Palestine Action.
But, disturbingly, the hearing won't take place until November, and in the meantime hundreds are being arrested who would have their convictions overturned if the appeal proves successful.
What this, and the arrests does prove, is that an organisation like Palestine Action shouldn't have been shoe-horned into the Terrorism Act. Instead, if measures were thought necessary, bespoke legislation should have been produced which targeted those involved in the organisation and its actions but not those merely writing messages of support on a piece of cardboard.
And this was reported in the Observer.
A Police Federation source told The Observer: “Making Palestine Action a proscribed organisation may prove to be impractical in policing terms. It’s just another burden on officers.” [Post edited 10 Aug 9:39]
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A rather alarming number of apologists on this thread for what is draconian legislation.
But don't take my word for it, just look at what the UN Human Rights organisation says about it, which reflects my comment about the inappropriateness of shoe-horning Palestine Action into the Terrorism Act.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/07/uk-palestine-action-ban-disturbi
"UK domestic counter-terrorism legislation defines terrorist acts broadly to include ‘serious damage to property’. But, according to international standards, terrorist acts should be confined to criminal acts intended to cause death or serious injury or to the taking of hostages, for purpose of intimidating a population or to compel a government to take a certain action or not,” said Türk. “It misuses the gravity and impact of terrorism to expand it beyond those clear boundaries, to encompass further conduct that is already criminal under the law.”
“The decision appears disproportionate and unnecessary. It limits the rights of many people involved with and supportive of Palestine Action who have not themselves engaged in any underlying criminal activity but rather exercised their rights to freedom of expression, peaceful assembly and association,” the High Commissioner said. “As such, it appears to constitute an impermissible restriction on those rights that is at odds with the UK’s obligations under international human rights law.”
“The decision also conflates protected expression and other conduct with acts of terrorism and so could readily lead to further chilling effect on the lawful exercise of these rights by many people,”
Sadly though, a lot of people in this country don't seem to care about human rights but therein lies a slippery slope where we end up mirroring Russia and Belarus as the only countries in Europe not to be members of the ECHR. And it is good that there are some very brave people prepared to take a stance on this, and sad for me that Labour with a lawyer as leader is going down this route. [Post edited 11 Aug 9:32]
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| What a waste of our taxes on 09:38 - Aug 16 with 123 views | DJR |
| What a waste of our taxes on 22:23 - Aug 10 by DJR |
My hunch is that, whilst charges may be laid, no prosecutions will be brought until the challenge has been heard. |
This suggests that my hunch may turn out to be correct. In any event, I think it would be the right thing to do.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/15/palestine-action-prosecutions-shou
Protesters arrested for supporting Palestine Action should not be prosecuted until a legal challenge to a ban on the group has been heard, organisations including Greenpeace and Human Rights Watch have told the attorney general for England and Wales.
In a letter to Richard Hermer KC, also signed by Friends of the Earth, Global Witness and the Quakers, they say proceeding with charges or trials before the judicial review, which is expected to be heard in November, would raise significant legal and moral questions.“
"Prosecuting individuals for offences connected to that proscription before the court has determined its legality raises significant legal and moral questions,” the letter states. “In particular, one of the grounds which the judge held had merit was that the proscription of Palestine Action was a disproportionate interference with human rights.
“We therefore respectfully request that you exercise your constitutional role in the public interest by delaying any decisions to prosecute individuals arrested under terrorism legislation in connection with Palestine Action until the conclusion of the judicial review process.” | | | |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 10:15 - Aug 16 with 87 views | OldFart71 |
Our current political party is more interested in what is happening in other parts of the world than what is happening in Britain. Charity apparently doesn't begin at home.
I totally agree that what has happened in Gaza is horrendous but near neighbours such as Egypt haven't done anything to help and whilst this attitude "It's nothing to do with us" is wrong why don't we hear more from neighbouring states ?
As for a lot of laws being used today in Britain whilst open to interpretation they are being used for things they were not intended for and vagueness is probably what was intended in the first place. | | | |
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