| Why has Broadhead been sold? 18:11 - Aug 14 with 3708 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
I appreciate I'm about two months late to the discussion but I don't really get it. He's a top player. He's been much better for us in his time than Clarke and/or Philogene have so far for example (appreciate they've only played one season in the Prem here).
Did McKenna just not rate something about him? Did he want to leave?
I feel like the same questions can be asked about the sale of Burgess too. Another one where I don't understand why a new three-year deal or however long wasn't being offered.
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 21:01 - Aug 14 with 543 views | jimmyvet |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 18:15 - Aug 14 by Herbivore |
We couldn't justify a three year deal for Burgess when he was going to be a back up CB and I doubt he'd have wanted to tie himself here for three years as a back up at his age. It made sense for him to go and get a good deal and regular footy elsewhere.
Broadhead almost left a year ago. He's technically brilliant but not very robust physically which limits his impact and his game time. We've brought in replacements who are younger and have a higher ceiling, albeit we've not seen them at their best yet. He's got a year left on his deal and wants to be playing regularly, we can't offer him regular footy or a long deal at this point. We've been made a fantastic offer, second highest sale in our history or close to it. It makes sense for all parties. |
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 21:23 - Aug 14 with 516 views | FrankfurtBlue |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 18:15 - Aug 14 by Herbivore |
We couldn't justify a three year deal for Burgess when he was going to be a back up CB and I doubt he'd have wanted to tie himself here for three years as a back up at his age. It made sense for him to go and get a good deal and regular footy elsewhere.
Broadhead almost left a year ago. He's technically brilliant but not very robust physically which limits his impact and his game time. We've brought in replacements who are younger and have a higher ceiling, albeit we've not seen them at their best yet. He's got a year left on his deal and wants to be playing regularly, we can't offer him regular footy or a long deal at this point. We've been made a fantastic offer, second highest sale in our history or close to it. It makes sense for all parties. |
Agree with what you say, except the very last statement "It makes sense for all parties".
Regardless of whether the deal, or the circumstances around it, make sense, it can only be good for ITFC when we have the better player playing for us. Not the potentially better player, but the currently better player. Not who KMc fancies more, or who plays more. Is Jack Clarke playing better that Nathan Broadhead, currently?
I really hope that Clarke improves, and rapidly, as he shows a lot of promise, but at the moment he is clearly not on par as a replacement for Broadhead. |  | | |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 21:26 - Aug 14 with 508 views | Smoresy |
McKenna's wound down his role in the side since signing Sarmiento 18 months ago. | | | |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 21:52 - Aug 14 with 467 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 19:58 - Aug 14 by Herbivore |
He was a very patchy player. Saints goal aside, he tailed off a fair bit in 2023/24 in the latter stages of the season and Omari emerged as the player really firing that attacking quartet. Lots of ability but being able to play and perform consistently has been an issue for him over the years. Goes down as a modern hero and leaves with all good wishes though. |
Yeah people do forget certain aspects of broady. For example if he put his chances away we probably win the nowich home game by HT in 23 season. |  |
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 22:17 - Aug 14 with 428 views | Swailsey |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 21:52 - Aug 14 by FrimleyBlue |
Yeah people do forget certain aspects of broady. For example if he put his chances away we probably win the nowich home game by HT in 23 season. |
But conversely, we 100% wouldn’t have been promoted both seasons without him. Won many games in league 1 and was top scorer in the championship.
Whilst the deal makes sense now, it’s how we’ve gotten here which rattles me (and I assume quite a few others). We’ve essentially phased him out for a season and a half with players who seem to be inferior (Sarmiento, Clarke, Philogene) - to date anyway.
What this has taught me though, is it seems that I’m probably less in love with MKc than I realised.
Ever since he nearly left us in the championship, and then immediately when we were promoted has always left a sour taste in my mouth. His dismantling of that team with one who went down without a whimper also added to that, and this transfer window hasn’t been great either.
I know this is mainly a ‘me’ problem - and I know it’s an unpopular opinion/I respect that - but the fact is that KMc clearly knows how to wager a good deal for himself by playing hard ball. Is it a wonder some of his players seem to want to take the same approach?
Maybe I’m just bitter - but league 1 and most of the championship season were fantastic and felt like the club was completely united. That’s been eroded since, and we find ourselves with a load of loanees again, with a team of expensive players who still don’t seem to me to be any upgrade on Broadhead, Mass, Hladky, Morsy and Cam.
Sorry for the rant - not having a good day - but I just feel ‘meh’ about things at the club at the moment. [Post edited 14 Aug 22:29]
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 22:22 - Aug 14 with 397 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 22:17 - Aug 14 by Swailsey |
But conversely, we 100% wouldn’t have been promoted both seasons without him. Won many games in league 1 and was top scorer in the championship.
Whilst the deal makes sense now, it’s how we’ve gotten here which rattles me (and I assume quite a few others). We’ve essentially phased him out for a season and a half with players who seem to be inferior (Sarmiento, Clarke, Philogene) - to date anyway.
What this has taught me though, is it seems that I’m probably less in love with MKc than I realised.
Ever since he nearly left us in the championship, and then immediately when we were promoted has always left a sour taste in my mouth. His dismantling of that team with one who went down without a whimper also added to that, and this transfer window hasn’t been great either.
I know this is mainly a ‘me’ problem - and I know it’s an unpopular opinion/I respect that - but the fact is that KMc clearly knows how to wager a good deal for himself by playing hard ball. Is it a wonder some of his players seem to want to take the same approach?
Maybe I’m just bitter - but league 1 and most of the championship season were fantastic and felt like the club was completely united. That’s been eroded since, and we find ourselves with a load of loanees again, with a team of expensive players who still don’t seem to me to be any upgrade on Broadhead, Mass, Hladky, Morsy and Cam.
Sorry for the rant - not having a good day - but I just feel ‘meh’ about things at the club at the moment. [Post edited 14 Aug 22:29]
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I'm probably not the best person to discuss KM.
But broady. I loved him. Wasn't without limitations. But even last season he showed things others haven't shown . He'll be a miss but hopefully not for too long. | |
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 22:24 - Aug 14 with 373 views | Swailsey |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 22:22 - Aug 14 by FrimleyBlue |
I'm probably not the best person to discuss KM.
But broady. I loved him. Wasn't without limitations. But even last season he showed things others haven't shown . He'll be a miss but hopefully not for too long. |
I nearly threw Wes in there but thought better of it ;) | |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 22:29 - Aug 14 with 355 views | Herbivore |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 20:59 - Aug 14 by ArnieM |
McKenna doesnt like Broadhead, and basically binned him even though Philogene and Clarke are nowhere near Broadheads level, (IMHO).
Our loss, Wrexham's gain in my view. |
Not like you to go over the top with a hot take. |  |
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 23:04 - Aug 14 with 284 views | BlueForYou |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 18:15 - Aug 14 by Herbivore |
We couldn't justify a three year deal for Burgess when he was going to be a back up CB and I doubt he'd have wanted to tie himself here for three years as a back up at his age. It made sense for him to go and get a good deal and regular footy elsewhere.
Broadhead almost left a year ago. He's technically brilliant but not very robust physically which limits his impact and his game time. We've brought in replacements who are younger and have a higher ceiling, albeit we've not seen them at their best yet. He's got a year left on his deal and wants to be playing regularly, we can't offer him regular footy or a long deal at this point. We've been made a fantastic offer, second highest sale in our history or close to it. It makes sense for all parties. |
I can’t see why we let Burgess go, & now Broadhead. The guy had become a colossus at the back, best defender at the club, not that old & with his best years still ahead of him. I saw him as a leader on the pitch, someone who gave his all & improved himself year on year. That seemed a totally crazy one to me. Broady too. Something definitely awry when that calibre of player is allowed to depart to an opposing team. We’ve had most of our back room team leave, now two of our best players, probably joined by a third one. This is hardly conducive towards building squad togetherness & a winning mentality, but I guess we can only wait & see. Things do not seem or feel right at the moment. |  | | |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 23:08 - Aug 14 with 265 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 18:42 - Aug 14 by NthQldITFC |
Not robust/quick/strong enough for the Premier League which is what we're building a squad for. |
Have you seen Clarke and Philogene? |  | | |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 00:22 - Aug 15 with 220 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 22:17 - Aug 14 by Swailsey |
But conversely, we 100% wouldn’t have been promoted both seasons without him. Won many games in league 1 and was top scorer in the championship.
Whilst the deal makes sense now, it’s how we’ve gotten here which rattles me (and I assume quite a few others). We’ve essentially phased him out for a season and a half with players who seem to be inferior (Sarmiento, Clarke, Philogene) - to date anyway.
What this has taught me though, is it seems that I’m probably less in love with MKc than I realised.
Ever since he nearly left us in the championship, and then immediately when we were promoted has always left a sour taste in my mouth. His dismantling of that team with one who went down without a whimper also added to that, and this transfer window hasn’t been great either.
I know this is mainly a ‘me’ problem - and I know it’s an unpopular opinion/I respect that - but the fact is that KMc clearly knows how to wager a good deal for himself by playing hard ball. Is it a wonder some of his players seem to want to take the same approach?
Maybe I’m just bitter - but league 1 and most of the championship season were fantastic and felt like the club was completely united. That’s been eroded since, and we find ourselves with a load of loanees again, with a team of expensive players who still don’t seem to me to be any upgrade on Broadhead, Mass, Hladky, Morsy and Cam.
Sorry for the rant - not having a good day - but I just feel ‘meh’ about things at the club at the moment. [Post edited 14 Aug 22:29]
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 08:34 - Aug 15 with 134 views | ArmaghBlue |
As good as he was when he played, he just seemed to fragile/injury prone to be relied on over a whole season. [Post edited 15 Aug 8:38]
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 08:51 - Aug 15 with 102 views | lurcher |
He isn't a top player. His potential isn't as high as Clarke or Philogene. But that is by the by as it's actually Akpom who is replacing him. He had a poor injury record and it was significant money for a player in the last year of his contract. |  | | |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 09:02 - Aug 15 with 71 views | Herbivore |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 23:04 - Aug 14 by BlueForYou |
I can’t see why we let Burgess go, & now Broadhead. The guy had become a colossus at the back, best defender at the club, not that old & with his best years still ahead of him. I saw him as a leader on the pitch, someone who gave his all & improved himself year on year. That seemed a totally crazy one to me. Broady too. Something definitely awry when that calibre of player is allowed to depart to an opposing team. We’ve had most of our back room team leave, now two of our best players, probably joined by a third one. This is hardly conducive towards building squad togetherness & a winning mentality, but I guess we can only wait & see. Things do not seem or feel right at the moment. |
I don't agree that Burgess and Broadhead were two of our best players. Burgess improved a lot during his time here but he was a back up CB for us last season and would have been this season. Broadhead likewise had become a back up player over the past 18 months. We genuinely have lost two of our best players in Delap and Hutchinson though, albeit we've generated a lot of money in doing so. | |
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| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 09:05 - Aug 15 with 57 views | NthQldITFC |
| Why has Broadhead been sold? on 23:08 - Aug 14 by FromReuserWithLove |
Have you seen Clarke and Philogene? |
I can't really argue with you there, except that both have more development potential. Had hoped to see both bulk up a little bit for this season. We seem to be signing more physical forwards now, so we have to make space and Broady gave us the best (only) profit there.
I loved watching him and am sad to lose him too and, while he's not the only one, it's clearly true that while his skills allow him to be a top Championship player without top physicality, we needed more in the PL. |  |
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