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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview 19:06 - Aug 30 with 6290 viewsRoburmsyenna

"Lukes made it clear he wants to leave for some time now"
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:07 - Aug 30 with 987 viewsvictorysquad

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 19:37 - Aug 30 by pointofblue

To me, he's been reliable. To you, he's a liability. I have less faith in O'Shea and Greaves. You have more.

I guess football is a game of opinions.


If we are leaking goals each week so easily then clearly our current cb pairing is still not right. But i am damn sure woolfie is not the long term answer either, not if we want to build a premier league squad.

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:09 - Aug 30 with 961 viewspointofblue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:04 - Aug 30 by _clive_baker_

I don’t really understand why we’ve not sold him and signed a replacement if he’s wanted to leave for a some time. There’s absolutely no point keeping players who don’t want to be here.


I think it's been handled very badly by the club. I can only think his status as club-developed has meant we've wanted to hold on to him, to allow us to move Humpheys out on loan but still have nine subs. That's why we haven't taken the Broadhead approach of letting him go.

It feels like it's all come to a head now, though. I wonder whether we'll go back with a better offer for Caceres?

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:13 - Aug 30 with 935 viewspointofblue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:07 - Aug 30 by victorysquad

If we are leaking goals each week so easily then clearly our current cb pairing is still not right. But i am damn sure woolfie is not the long term answer either, not if we want to build a premier league squad.


Woolfenden performed decently in the Premier League last year, though I do think he's better in a back three. To me, he's no worse than O'Shea or Greaves and we didn't have to spend seven figures to get him.

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:16 - Aug 30 with 912 viewsLibero

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 19:21 - Aug 30 by FromReuserWithLove

just like the voices in my head told me...


Not quite, but if it makes you feel better about catastrophising, have at it, lad.
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:18 - Aug 30 with 902 viewsRoburmsyenna

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:09 - Aug 30 by pointofblue

I think it's been handled very badly by the club. I can only think his status as club-developed has meant we've wanted to hold on to him, to allow us to move Humpheys out on loan but still have nine subs. That's why we haven't taken the Broadhead approach of letting him go.

It feels like it's all come to a head now, though. I wonder whether we'll go back with a better offer for Caceres?


how did that work today then?
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:19 - Aug 30 with 887 viewspointofblue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:18 - Aug 30 by Roburmsyenna

how did that work today then?


How did what work?

ETA: The registration doesn't come into affect until after the transfer window closes but, even when it does, Woolfenden (or Humphreys) would just need to be part of the 25-man squad to allows us to have nine subs. Not part of the 20 man matchday squad.
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:19 - Aug 30 with 883 viewsmrfixit426

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:13 - Aug 30 by pointofblue

Woolfenden performed decently in the Premier League last year, though I do think he's better in a back three. To me, he's no worse than O'Shea or Greaves and we didn't have to spend seven figures to get him.


Woolfenden is a lovely player, and one I really enjoy watching. It will be a real shame if he goes (I know he's going), because he will be the last of the players I REALLY enjoy watching play gone. Broadhead, Hutchinson, Delap, Luongo, Morsy and Axel.

Hopefully the new batch will step up. Never been convinced by O'Shea though, even though he is awesome in the air.
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:20 - Aug 30 with 871 viewsReuser_is_God

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:04 - Aug 30 by _clive_baker_

I don’t really understand why we’ve not sold him and signed a replacement if he’s wanted to leave for a some time. There’s absolutely no point keeping players who don’t want to be here.


McKenna likes him & I’d imagine if it was up to McKenna then he’d stay.

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:22 - Aug 30 with 835 viewspointofblue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:20 - Aug 30 by Reuser_is_God

McKenna likes him & I’d imagine if it was up to McKenna then he’d stay.


McKenna likes him? Must be as a seat warmer.

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:23 - Aug 30 with 824 viewsSWLondonBlue93

I presume by "some time", he means from the moment O'Shea was given a new long-term contract, and then the captaincy. It was clear at that point there was no route back into the team.
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:23 - Aug 30 with 824 viewsReuser_is_God

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:22 - Aug 30 by pointofblue

McKenna likes him? Must be as a seat warmer.


Played almost every game in back to back promotions & bought him in from the cold when he first came in.

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:27 - Aug 30 with 762 viewspointofblue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:23 - Aug 30 by Reuser_is_God

Played almost every game in back to back promotions & bought him in from the cold when he first came in.


Admittedly being pedantic but McGreal brought him back in upon Cook's departure. McKenna did stick with him upon his arrival.

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:29 - Aug 30 with 751 viewsBloomBlue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 19:53 - Aug 30 by Kieran_Knows

Putting aside whether it’s right or wrong him not being in the side, if he has ‘wanted to leave for some time’ then why on earth did he sign a new contract just 7 months ago? Baffling from him and his agent.


Maybe he thought he would be given a chance. But as Ive said before most mgrs once they name a captain, they play that player irrelevant of performance. Hence Woolf, is now probably thinking, I'm never going to get chance unless O'Shea is injured, even if I'm on the subs bench, and even if O'Shea performances are shlt
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:32 - Aug 30 with 723 viewsvictorysquad

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:13 - Aug 30 by pointofblue

Woolfenden performed decently in the Premier League last year, though I do think he's better in a back three. To me, he's no worse than O'Shea or Greaves and we didn't have to spend seven figures to get him.


I think that is a fair enough comment, but to me it means we have still not got the right cb”s at the club

Shame the Uruguay one fell through, he looks class

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:33 - Aug 30 with 717 viewstetchris

If he wants to leave then let him go and use the money to sign someone else. I don’t think the Caceres deal is completely dead. It’s gamesmanship, we made an offer his club rejected it but then came back with a counter proposal. The deal is there to be done somewhere in-between what they want and what we want to pay etc.
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:34 - Aug 30 with 704 viewspointofblue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:32 - Aug 30 by victorysquad

I think that is a fair enough comment, but to me it means we have still not got the right cb”s at the club

Shame the Uruguay one fell through, he looks class


I wonder if we'll go back in for him now, and accept defeat in keeping Woolfenden here. We haven't been linked with anyone else.

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:41 - Aug 30 with 645 viewsClutch

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:03 - Aug 30 by pointofblue

We wouldn't expect him to be prime Maldini. Competent would be enough for now.


He plays too relaxed and makes mistakes.

Everyone's forgot that because they want something to moan about.
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:43 - Aug 30 with 610 viewspointofblue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:41 - Aug 30 by Clutch

He plays too relaxed and makes mistakes.

Everyone's forgot that because they want something to moan about.


The mistakes he maekes are exagerrated and over-blown. Especially considering it feels like I'm the only one who's pointing out the errors O'Shea made today, which I cannot recall Woolfenden doing for quite a while, which cost us two points.

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:44 - Aug 30 with 608 viewsFrimleyBlue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 19:11 - Aug 30 by homer_123

He's a quality ball playing CB.

For whatever reasons KM hasn't ever really trusted him.


The reason is simple. Stat wise he doesn't win alot of heaers. Loses alot of duels etc.

He's a ball playing cb and a bloody good one. But defending itself isn't his strong point which is a problem as a cb.

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:45 - Aug 30 with 595 viewspointofblue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:44 - Aug 30 by FrimleyBlue

The reason is simple. Stat wise he doesn't win alot of heaers. Loses alot of duels etc.

He's a ball playing cb and a bloody good one. But defending itself isn't his strong point which is a problem as a cb.


Whereas O'Shea was exceptional at winning headers and duels today.

Edit: Sorry, but the usual suspects would be absolutely slaughtering Woolfenden if he put in that kind of performance today, and not unreasonably either.
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:47 - Aug 30 with 576 viewsDavoIPB

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:44 - Aug 30 by FrimleyBlue

The reason is simple. Stat wise he doesn't win alot of heaers. Loses alot of duels etc.

He's a ball playing cb and a bloody good one. But defending itself isn't his strong point which is a problem as a cb.


No he isn't. He rarely finds a player with his passes and he is very ponderous on the ball. do agree not the best defender. Part of a team that shipped loads of goals, we were just very good in attack at the time
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:47 - Aug 30 with 553 viewsFromReuserWithLove

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:16 - Aug 30 by Libero

Not quite, but if it makes you feel better about catastrophising, have at it, lad.


I understand it must be hard for to accept you attacked me unfairly but it's fine. You do you.
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:49 - Aug 30 with 540 viewsLibero

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:47 - Aug 30 by FromReuserWithLove

I understand it must be hard for to accept you attacked me unfairly but it's fine. You do you.


When is Leif Davis leaving, again?! 😂
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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:51 - Aug 30 with 505 viewsFrimleyBlue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:45 - Aug 30 by pointofblue

Whereas O'Shea was exceptional at winning headers and duels today.

Edit: Sorry, but the usual suspects would be absolutely slaughtering Woolfenden if he put in that kind of performance today, and not unreasonably either.
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Osheas stats speak for themselves. He's head and shoulders above wolfy on those specific stats.

But as said a while ago. I still don't think we'd be worse off with the same squad we got promoted with. It had problems but it worked. Now we have problems that won't work

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Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:53 - Aug 30 with 499 viewspointofblue

Woolfenden - McK BBC Interview on 20:51 - Aug 30 by FrimleyBlue

Osheas stats speak for themselves. He's head and shoulders above wolfy on those specific stats.

But as said a while ago. I still don't think we'd be worse off with the same squad we got promoted with. It had problems but it worked. Now we have problems that won't work


I think it's fair to say the squad which won double promotion was greater than the sum of it's parts. Now we have one which is lesser.

I honestly don't think we'd be much worse off with Woolfenden and Burgess at the back at this present time.

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