| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times 19:55 - Aug 30 with 920 views | Miaow |
But it makes me uncomfortable to think about just how much we've paid in transfer fees since we went up in 2024 for very little visible improvement.
Yes, we might look completely different in a month's time or so after they've had a bit more time together, but this team feels so alien to the one we grew to love from League One to the promotion to the PL. |  |
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:00 - Aug 30 with 861 views | Illinoisblue |
We have overpaid by vast amounts. Insane money for average division two players that as yet have not made us any better at all. |  |
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:03 - Aug 30 with 819 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I look at some of the wingers around the league and what they cost and then I remember we put down 12 million on Kasey Mcateer.
Mind boggling stuff |  |
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:05 - Aug 30 with 795 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:00 - Aug 30 by Illinoisblue |
We have overpaid by vast amounts. Insane money for average division two players that as yet have not made us any better at all. |
It’s insane what we done last summer. |  |
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:26 - Aug 30 with 707 views | Illinoisblue |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:05 - Aug 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It’s insane what we done last summer. |
Not knocking him but 7million on Ogbene is madness. 7 x Burns fee?
20m on Philogene? 12m on the Leicester bloke? | |
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:28 - Aug 30 with 684 views | Miaow |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:03 - Aug 30 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I look at some of the wingers around the league and what they cost and then I remember we put down 12 million on Kasey Mcateer.
Mind boggling stuff |
Tell me about it.
And £3.5 million on Furlong when he's almost 30 seems like a lot to me.
We've needed to make some signings to improve the squad, and to replace outgoing and injured players, but our transfer policy since last summer has been seriously questionable. | |
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:31 - Aug 30 with 648 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:03 - Aug 30 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I look at some of the wingers around the league and what they cost and then I remember we put down 12 million on Kasey Mcateer.
Mind boggling stuff |
You're not allowed to say that though, have to find a way of excusing the inexcusable and £12m on Kasey bloody Mcateer certainly fits into that category. |  | | |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:34 - Aug 30 with 615 views | Churchman |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:00 - Aug 30 by Illinoisblue |
We have overpaid by vast amounts. Insane money for average division two players that as yet have not made us any better at all. |
I keep hearing this line we ‘over paid’ for players and it’s of course a useful term for rubbishing them. But over paid on what basis? FM25? Transfermarket? Does that mean we robbed Chelsea for Hutchinson and Delap, given the profit made on them? Was Wrexham robbed over Broadhead? I don’t think so. If the players are released on free transfers, then I’ll agree over paid.
It is not always the quality of the individuals. Sometimes it’s about players playing as individuals and not as a team. I see no team there whatsoever. Derby were not talented, but grafted throughout. 100% for each other and made up the quality gap to the extent they more than deserved a win - as did Preston and Birmingham.
Mills summarised it as building partnerships before you build a team. There are no partnerships whatsoever in our lot. Unlike two seasons ago the team is poorer than the sum of its parts. Until there is and if that happens, there won’t be any team and they’ll struggle, despite individual quality.
Do the players believe in McKenna and what they are trying to do or are they just making noises and trousering their dough? That’s for them to decide and KM to understand. It’s up to them. I get the feeling the supporters have given up on them so they’ll have to do it in an unpleasant environment for now. The supporters may even drive McKenna out - owners tend to get jittery when the supporters turn their backs and Americans and patience do not go together.
I think top two is just about gone. Succeeding playing catch up after such a rubbish start rarely happens, but hopefully I’ll be proved wrong. I usually am. First task is to find a team from the plethora of players the club has brought in.
I personally think McKenna will do it, providing the players believe in what they are doing and the people at the club and the owners support him. Patience is required even if in today’s world that is a very rare and outmoded commodity. |  | | |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:34 - Aug 30 with 614 views | Bellevue_Blue |
That's because that team was a once in a generation team. I think it's five teams who have won back to back promotion since 1997.
We are never going to recreate that no matter what we spend. They were a special special team that were so much more than the sum of their parts which lets face it, is a complete anomaly in modern football. Every year it's the one's with the most money achieving things be that Wrexham, Birmingham, Liverpool etc
This team is alien and it's going to take time but there is no point comparing it to the B2B promotion winning team.
This one will never come close and that's fine. Even if we walk the league it wont feel the same, this team is expensive and promotion is expected of them. [Post edited 30 Aug 20:37]
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:36 - Aug 30 with 601 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:31 - Aug 30 by BouncebackIpswich |
You're not allowed to say that though, have to find a way of excusing the inexcusable and £12m on Kasey bloody Mcateer certainly fits into that category. |
The club can't win. You'd be vilifying them for a lack of ambition if they signed someone else for a couple of million.
Modern football involves big fees and we have to hope we get more right than wrong. | | | |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:40 - Aug 30 with 555 views | pointofblue |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:36 - Aug 30 by Bellevue_Blue |
The club can't win. You'd be vilifying them for a lack of ambition if they signed someone else for a couple of million.
Modern football involves big fees and we have to hope we get more right than wrong. |
My concern with the McAteer signing is it feels like the same as last summer- over-spending on Championship players, rather than a Matusiwa, an Egeli or an Azon, and finding someone abroad for a better deal.
Caceres is another. I think they want £10m for him? Yet we spend more than that on both O'Shea and Greaves. | |
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:47 - Aug 30 with 471 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:40 - Aug 30 by pointofblue |
My concern with the McAteer signing is it feels like the same as last summer- over-spending on Championship players, rather than a Matusiwa, an Egeli or an Azon, and finding someone abroad for a better deal.
Caceres is another. I think they want £10m for him? Yet we spend more than that on both O'Shea and Greaves. |
You've got no idea if it would be a better deal though?
He's played about 100 minutes of football in an Ipswich Town shirt.
You've also got no idea if Caceres is better than O'Shea or Greaves. I presume you have never watched him play a full 90 minutes of Football? Me neither.
There probably are better players out there but it's a risk and you need to infrastructure in place to know the minutiae of a person and the fit. [Post edited 30 Aug 20:48]
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:52 - Aug 30 with 416 views | pointofblue |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:47 - Aug 30 by Bellevue_Blue |
You've got no idea if it would be a better deal though?
He's played about 100 minutes of football in an Ipswich Town shirt.
You've also got no idea if Caceres is better than O'Shea or Greaves. I presume you have never watched him play a full 90 minutes of Football? Me neither.
There probably are better players out there but it's a risk and you need to infrastructure in place to know the minutiae of a person and the fit. [Post edited 30 Aug 20:48]
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But it feels like we do have the structure in place now - hence our arrivals over the summer. Young British players tend to be over-priced because of squad requirements. We could probably have got someone at McAteer's level for half the cost if we'd signed from abroad. We've made our decision and have to hope it comes good. Unlike, to date, most of our big money signings. | |
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| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:57 - Aug 30 with 377 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:52 - Aug 30 by pointofblue |
But it feels like we do have the structure in place now - hence our arrivals over the summer. Young British players tend to be over-priced because of squad requirements. We could probably have got someone at McAteer's level for half the cost if we'd signed from abroad. We've made our decision and have to hope it comes good. Unlike, to date, most of our big money signings. |
We do have better infrastructure which has led to us having more confidence in buying abroad. That in itself should give you more confidence that they looked at all options and still felt Mcateer for £12M was the best option? | | | |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 21:01 - Aug 30 with 356 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:26 - Aug 30 by Illinoisblue |
Not knocking him but 7million on Ogbene is madness. 7 x Burns fee?
20m on Philogene? 12m on the Leicester bloke? |
A player bought 5 seasons ago in league one from Fleetwood town cost a lot less than a player bought last season who'd just had a half decent prem season and was being bought by a premier league club. Colour me shocked.
Both us and the entire game has moved on in the last 4/5 seasons. I've no idea if those other fees are massively overpaying, they don't seem great as of this second, but the value is built in to some extent in that they are never going to be worth nothing, due to age and pedigree. It's a lot of scary money that's for sure. But we've already got back what 60% of our outlay from selling the 3 so far. So a few half decent sales make it worth a risk. |  | | |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 21:03 - Aug 30 with 343 views | pointofblue |
| The amount of money we've spent has been mentioned countless times on 20:57 - Aug 30 by Bellevue_Blue |
We do have better infrastructure which has led to us having more confidence in buying abroad. That in itself should give you more confidence that they looked at all options and still felt Mcateer for £12M was the best option? |
Then I wish we'd just stuck with Ogbene. Even without him, we have Akpom, Burns, Clarke, Egeli (I think) and Philogene who can all play down the right. It's a purchase I just don't understand at the moment, for an amount which feels excessive. I hope I'm proven wrong. | |
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