| Wolfy 21:26 - Aug 30 with 1616 views | Garv |
Presumably we aren't desperate for the cash, as we were planning to spend to replace him. Why don't we consider a loan? Maybe we are?
If we don't go up this year, and assuming O'Shea's stock is still high, he will have interest and LW could force his way back in again.
If we do go up, we'll be back in the PL and should be setting up with a 5 at the back at times, which LW suits very much.
Writing is on the wall I guess, I just hope haven't things haven't gone sour, as it's another sign of this summer having been quite fractious. |  |
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| Wolfy on 21:29 - Aug 30 with 1582 views | GlasgowBlue |
We are in control. Why sell him to a potential rival? Loan him to a promotion chasing League One side. |  |
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| Wolfy on 21:52 - Aug 30 with 1497 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Wolfy on 21:29 - Aug 30 by GlasgowBlue |
We are in control. Why sell him to a potential rival? Loan him to a promotion chasing League One side. |
That's insulting frankly |  | | |
| Wolfy on 22:04 - Aug 30 with 1460 views | CopfordBlue |
Is it? I know he’s a local lad, came through the academy etc. I also rate him as a player , will always remember him as an integral part of the back to back promotion winning teams and feel he deserved more of an opportunity last season. It was his choice to sign a new contract at the start of the year when he wasn’t a first team regular. If a championship club doesn’t come in with an acceptable bid then a loan overseas or to league one are likely to be in the best interests of the club if he doesn’t want to stay. There’s no way we should be strengthening a potential rival. [Post edited 30 Aug 22:44]
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| Wolfy on 08:46 - Aug 31 with 1200 views | GlasgowBlue |
It’s also a compliment. He’s a first class central defender who was a mainstay in a promotion winning team and didn’t let himself down when playing in the Premier League. If he goes to a promotion rival he will strengthen them. No doubt.
Maybe it’s time we start to put Ipswich first. If he wants game time I’m sure Lee Grant will give him 90 minutes every week. | |
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| Wolfy on 09:09 - Aug 31 with 1099 views | darkhorse28 |
We DO want to sell. He has no value on the balance sheet, and if we did sign a replacement the cost is spread over the contract length.
He’s pure profit. And moving player assets to cash is something we’ve done all summer, which helps a club valuation.
We’ve only signed 5 players who will be contracted after next summer if we don’t go up, we’ve lost 9 or so, depending what happens tomorrow.
McKenna might want to keep him, but the. As with Burgess. He doesn’t value him enough to play him .., the club 100% want him to leave.
Our squad is massive…, him leaving is a symptom of having 15 options to play indie forward.., which is bizarre.
We’ll have maybe 2 right side centre backs, although Kipre usually plays left side.
Ogbenne, Philogene, Clarke, Burns, Akpom, Mcateer, Egeli …, and Sammie and Chaplin and Johnson can easily okay there too.
TEN options!
TEN - genuinely, we’ve signed some really good options.., our ability to build a squad though…, it’s so poor.
500 options across our three…, one striker, 2 CDMS and one right side centre back, and one left back.
Balanced it’s not. | | | |
| Wolfy on 09:18 - Aug 31 with 1044 views | ArnieM |
...and the more choices available to McKenna, the LESS likely he is to have settled team, less continuity, less understanding between players, more unsettled players, more players out, more plsyers in. And so the madness continues ues. Might look good in the books for Club value, but looks s hyte on the pitch..... |  |
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| Wolfy on 09:33 - Aug 31 with 980 views | OldFart71 |
If Woofie isn't a regular, which he isn't, I see no reason not to sell him. He has been unsettled for some time. He has been an excellent servant to Town.
Obviously the priority for Town is promotion otherwise why spend so much of the money accumulated from sales and parachute payments.
Therefore with Woolfie not being first choice or even second when we were last in the Prem again it makes little sense to keep him and I would say a figure in the region of 10 million would secure him. | | | |
| Wolfy on 09:51 - Aug 31 with 944 views | blueoutlook |
I still don’t see where Greaves and O’Shea are 30 million pounds better than Luke and Burgess were. Letting Burgess go was a crime! |  | | |
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| Wolfy on 09:59 - Aug 31 with 905 views | BlueForYou |
| Wolfy on 09:51 - Aug 31 by blueoutlook |
I still don’t see where Greaves and O’Shea are 30 million pounds better than Luke and Burgess were. Letting Burgess go was a crime! |
It was. That guy had improved every season & was becoming a Colossus at the back. Had a good pass too, which often swept us onto the front foot. Huge mistake. |  | | |
| Wolfy on 10:03 - Aug 31 with 878 views | WD19 |
| Wolfy on 21:29 - Aug 30 by GlasgowBlue |
We are in control. Why sell him to a potential rival? Loan him to a promotion chasing League One side. |
Ball playing centre back. Pack him off to Rangers….. |  | | |
| Wolfy on 10:07 - Aug 31 with 858 views | BlueOura |
| Wolfy on 09:51 - Aug 31 by blueoutlook |
I still don’t see where Greaves and O’Shea are 30 million pounds better than Luke and Burgess were. Letting Burgess go was a crime! |
Yep, I still maintain Burgess is a better player than Greaves. |  | | |
| Wolfy on 10:14 - Aug 31 with 834 views | Swailsey |
| Wolfy on 10:07 - Aug 31 by BlueOura |
Yep, I still maintain Burgess is a better player than Greaves. |
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| Wolfy on 10:23 - Aug 31 with 782 views | Wickets |
Yup its worth remembering that KM has said previously that if a player wants to leave he prefers him to go as no point in keeping an unsettled player in the squad . Someone has said Burgess should not have been allowed to leave but that is just not our managers way , he will not keep an unsettled player in the group. The exits of Morsy and Burgess proves that and it will take time to recover from those two losses . |  | | |
| Wolfy on 10:29 - Aug 31 with 744 views | blueoutlook |
| Wolfy on 10:23 - Aug 31 by Wickets |
Yup its worth remembering that KM has said previously that if a player wants to leave he prefers him to go as no point in keeping an unsettled player in the squad . Someone has said Burgess should not have been allowed to leave but that is just not our managers way , he will not keep an unsettled player in the group. The exits of Morsy and Burgess proves that and it will take time to recover from those two losses . |
Don’t think either were unsettled. Morsy said somewhere he wasn’t planning on leaving this season. We just didn’t offer him a decent contract. I don’t think he would have gone to Saudi if we had given him a new deal,yes I know we couldn’t compete with the money,but I get the impression he would have put that off for a year or so if he had got a half decent contract here. Same with Burgess, he didn’t want off, we just didn’t offer him a good enough deal to stay. He had been in discussions since Christmas but we wouldn’t do something for him. Now we have Greaves on huge money who isn’t half as good as Burgess. If Swansea could offer him a contract, I’m damned sure we could. | | | |
| Wolfy on 10:31 - Aug 31 with 726 views | pointofblue |
| Wolfy on 10:23 - Aug 31 by Wickets |
Yup its worth remembering that KM has said previously that if a player wants to leave he prefers him to go as no point in keeping an unsettled player in the squad . Someone has said Burgess should not have been allowed to leave but that is just not our managers way , he will not keep an unsettled player in the group. The exits of Morsy and Burgess proves that and it will take time to recover from those two losses . |
We tried to keep Burgess. He turned down the offer a new contract. Woolfenden's mistake was signing a new contract in January and I'd love to hear his reasoning behind it. I can only guess. | |
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| Wolfy on 10:32 - Aug 31 with 725 views | Edmundo |
| Wolfy on 21:29 - Aug 30 by GlasgowBlue |
We are in control. Why sell him to a potential rival? Loan him to a promotion chasing League One side. |
I could see Woolfy thriving in European leagues: maybe a lower French Ligue 1 side? |  |
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| Wolfy on 10:50 - Aug 31 with 659 views | Wickets |
| Wolfy on 10:29 - Aug 31 by blueoutlook |
Don’t think either were unsettled. Morsy said somewhere he wasn’t planning on leaving this season. We just didn’t offer him a decent contract. I don’t think he would have gone to Saudi if we had given him a new deal,yes I know we couldn’t compete with the money,but I get the impression he would have put that off for a year or so if he had got a half decent contract here. Same with Burgess, he didn’t want off, we just didn’t offer him a good enough deal to stay. He had been in discussions since Christmas but we wouldn’t do something for him. Now we have Greaves on huge money who isn’t half as good as Burgess. If Swansea could offer him a contract, I’m damned sure we could. |
Sam was offered a huge Saudi contract i would be surprised if we could offer him anythink approaching what he is on now . As for Burgess i'm sure we offered him the deal we thought he was worth which his agent maybe used as to get a better deal at Swansea . If he wanted to stay he would have but he obviously wanted to leave, Kieran was quoted as saying if a player wants to go there's little you can do , or similar, . Think these are the two he meant , i don't think we planned to move these two on this season but they wanted out as we now know Woofie does . | | | |
| Wolfy on 10:56 - Aug 31 with 635 views | pointofblue |
| Wolfy on 10:50 - Aug 31 by Wickets |
Sam was offered a huge Saudi contract i would be surprised if we could offer him anythink approaching what he is on now . As for Burgess i'm sure we offered him the deal we thought he was worth which his agent maybe used as to get a better deal at Swansea . If he wanted to stay he would have but he obviously wanted to leave, Kieran was quoted as saying if a player wants to go there's little you can do , or similar, . Think these are the two he meant , i don't think we planned to move these two on this season but they wanted out as we now know Woofie does . |
Think he was referring to Tuanzebe, Hutchinson and Broadhead as well. It makes you think who we wouldn't have brought in had they all stayed.
Tuanzebe - no Young?
Burgess - no Kipre
Morsy - no Nunez? (Difficult? I'd like to think we would have still gone for Matusiwa)
Hutchinson - no Egeli (not sure if the funds would have been there)
Broadhead - no McAteer? (I think we would have still gone for Akpom)
Then, with Woolfenden, looks like no Caceres at this point. | |
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| Wolfy on 11:03 - Aug 31 with 580 views | Wickets |
| Wolfy on 10:56 - Aug 31 by pointofblue |
Think he was referring to Tuanzebe, Hutchinson and Broadhead as well. It makes you think who we wouldn't have brought in had they all stayed.
Tuanzebe - no Young?
Burgess - no Kipre
Morsy - no Nunez? (Difficult? I'd like to think we would have still gone for Matusiwa)
Hutchinson - no Egeli (not sure if the funds would have been there)
Broadhead - no McAteer? (I think we would have still gone for Akpom)
Then, with Woolfenden, looks like no Caceres at this point. |
Yes sure you are right and the mass turnover of players was not planned . Think Furlong who has looked a good player the small amount i have seen him has played centre back before can play all four positions in the back line . | | | |
| Wolfy on 12:25 - Aug 31 with 435 views | Horsham |
| Wolfy on 09:18 - Aug 31 by ArnieM |
...and the more choices available to McKenna, the LESS likely he is to have settled team, less continuity, less understanding between players, more unsettled players, more players out, more plsyers in. And so the madness continues ues. Might look good in the books for Club value, but looks s hyte on the pitch..... |
But also - change the system, change the tactics, McKenna’s too stubborn and now no continuity. So which is it? Change stuff or keep it the same? |  | | |
| Wolfy on 12:28 - Aug 31 with 419 views | Wakh |
| Wolfy on 10:29 - Aug 31 by blueoutlook |
Don’t think either were unsettled. Morsy said somewhere he wasn’t planning on leaving this season. We just didn’t offer him a decent contract. I don’t think he would have gone to Saudi if we had given him a new deal,yes I know we couldn’t compete with the money,but I get the impression he would have put that off for a year or so if he had got a half decent contract here. Same with Burgess, he didn’t want off, we just didn’t offer him a good enough deal to stay. He had been in discussions since Christmas but we wouldn’t do something for him. Now we have Greaves on huge money who isn’t half as good as Burgess. If Swansea could offer him a contract, I’m damned sure we could. |
You might be settled in your job and not planning to leave. Then someone comes along and offers to quadruple your salary and makes it tax free. You love the idea of a once in a lifetime opportunity and the wife really wants you to take it. If your current boss doesn’t allow you to take it you will soon become unsettled. Life is fluid. | | | |
| Wolfy on 12:42 - Aug 31 with 353 views | nshearman1 |
| Wolfy on 09:59 - Aug 31 by BlueForYou |
It was. That guy had improved every season & was becoming a Colossus at the back. Had a good pass too, which often swept us onto the front foot. Huge mistake. |
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| Wolfy on 12:54 - Aug 31 with 320 views | Crock |
| Wolfy on 10:50 - Aug 31 by Wickets |
Sam was offered a huge Saudi contract i would be surprised if we could offer him anythink approaching what he is on now . As for Burgess i'm sure we offered him the deal we thought he was worth which his agent maybe used as to get a better deal at Swansea . If he wanted to stay he would have but he obviously wanted to leave, Kieran was quoted as saying if a player wants to go there's little you can do , or similar, . Think these are the two he meant , i don't think we planned to move these two on this season but they wanted out as we now know Woofie does . |
No. He went to Kuwait. |  |
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