| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something 09:30 - Oct 13 with 4804 views | giant_stow |
Really grim?:
Little wvnker - this week i'll be volunteering for the same club. Ouch.
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:35 - Oct 13 with 3240 views | J2BLUE |
That needed workshopping?
What are they still protesting about? The UK has recognised Palestine. There is the beginning of what will hopefully be a lasting peace. Israeli forces are withdrawing. Not fully but it's a first step. Aid is set to flow into Gaza. What exactly are they protesting for right now?
The veil has well and truly slipped. It became obvious (as if it wasn't already) when they chose the two year anniversary of the attacks on Israel for their pro Palestine event even though it looks likely the conflict was coming to some sort of end.
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:40 - Oct 13 with 3202 views | giant_stow |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:35 - Oct 13 by J2BLUE |
That needed workshopping?
What are they still protesting about? The UK has recognised Palestine. There is the beginning of what will hopefully be a lasting peace. Israeli forces are withdrawing. Not fully but it's a first step. Aid is set to flow into Gaza. What exactly are they protesting for right now?
The veil has well and truly slipped. It became obvious (as if it wasn't already) when they chose the two year anniversary of the attacks on Israel for their pro Palestine event even though it looks likely the conflict was coming to some sort of end.
Scum. |
I have no idea and can only guess that they areanged this before the ceasefire. Itll be interesting to see what they do next i spose. | |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:43 - Oct 13 with 3154 views | DJR |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:40 - Oct 13 by giant_stow |
I have no idea and can only guess that they areanged this before the ceasefire. Itll be interesting to see what they do next i spose. |
When you say club colours, do you mean Ipswich or Norwich?
Whatever the answer, that is antisemitism pure and simple, and could never be justified even if things hadn't reached the stage they have. |  | | |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:44 - Oct 13 with 3151 views | baxterbasics |
These people are insane and it would be funny if not also dangerous.
For many of them it has never been about protesting Israel's brutality - which would be fair do's. Otherwise they'd also be calling out Hamas for their behaviour. It's Israel's very existence they despise.
How has the UK allowed it's university campus' to become so captured? |  |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:51 - Oct 13 with 3073 views | giant_stow |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:43 - Oct 13 by DJR |
When you say club colours, do you mean Ipswich or Norwich?
Whatever the answer, that is antisemitism pure and simple, and could never be justified even if things hadn't reached the stage they have. |
The chanter is wearing a clapton community fc top. They are very left wing and the top has sold hugely around the world in those circles, to almost become a political uniform. Ive been involved with volunteer kid coaching for years with them and my son with jewish blood has also been playing with them in that time. Gutted.
Edit: im hoping hes a random, but have got in touch with the club to find out if hes known. [Post edited 13 Oct 9:53]
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:53 - Oct 13 with 3041 views | blueasfook |
I hope all hell of retribution befalls this scumbag. Kicked out of uni, charged with hate speech, the whole nine yards. |  |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:55 - Oct 13 with 3003 views | Guthrum |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:44 - Oct 13 by baxterbasics |
These people are insane and it would be funny if not also dangerous.
For many of them it has never been about protesting Israel's brutality - which would be fair do's. Otherwise they'd also be calling out Hamas for their behaviour. It's Israel's very existence they despise.
How has the UK allowed it's university campus' to become so captured? |
Universities shouldn't be policing the political activity of their students. It's a sandbox where young people can develop views and identities without real consequences.
Except in cases where it crosses the line into potentially criminal incitement of violence - which this, arguably, does.
Tho the two tweets are also questionable in equating a dislike of Zionism (in its modern context, a chauvinistic political movement) with antisemitism and hatred of all jews. |  |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:01 - Oct 13 with 2898 views | giant_stow |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:55 - Oct 13 by Guthrum |
Universities shouldn't be policing the political activity of their students. It's a sandbox where young people can develop views and identities without real consequences.
Except in cases where it crosses the line into potentially criminal incitement of violence - which this, arguably, does.
Tho the two tweets are also questionable in equating a dislike of Zionism (in its modern context, a chauvinistic political movement) with antisemitism and hatred of all jews. |
Regardless of the anti-zionism / antisemitism debate, hes calling for death to agroup of people, which *should* go against everything ccfc stands for. | |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:02 - Oct 13 with 2880 views | Guthrum |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:51 - Oct 13 by giant_stow |
The chanter is wearing a clapton community fc top. They are very left wing and the top has sold hugely around the world in those circles, to almost become a political uniform. Ive been involved with volunteer kid coaching for years with them and my son with jewish blood has also been playing with them in that time. Gutted.
Edit: im hoping hes a random, but have got in touch with the club to find out if hes known. [Post edited 13 Oct 9:53]
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Perhaps ironically, in the light of the idiot student, many of the Zionists in the first half of the 20th century - the parents and founders of Israel - were politically socialist.
Clapton, too, being in an area of London with strong Jewish links. | |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:05 - Oct 13 with 2834 views | Guthrum |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:01 - Oct 13 by giant_stow |
Regardless of the anti-zionism / antisemitism debate, hes calling for death to agroup of people, which *should* go against everything ccfc stands for. |
Indeed. As I said, this perhaps crosses the line into outright illegality. | |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:05 - Oct 13 with 2825 views | giant_stow |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:02 - Oct 13 by Guthrum |
Perhaps ironically, in the light of the idiot student, many of the Zionists in the first half of the 20th century - the parents and founders of Israel - were politically socialist.
Clapton, too, being in an area of London with strong Jewish links. |
Exactly right about the socialism and area. | |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:06 - Oct 13 with 2820 views | NthQldITFC |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:43 - Oct 13 by DJR |
When you say club colours, do you mean Ipswich or Norwich?
Whatever the answer, that is antisemitism pure and simple, and could never be justified even if things hadn't reached the stage they have. |
I can't work out which club's shirt the tvvat with the mic is wearing, but it matters not. Those sorts of sentiments are not the way to resolve a hideous, long-term situation.
The word 'proud' in that context makes me sick - yes you need freedom fighters and resistance when you are oppressed, but it's a necessary evil, not something for some ignorant little tvvat thousands of miles away to be 'proud' about. Arsehole. |  |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:06 - Oct 13 with 2814 views | baxterbasics |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:55 - Oct 13 by Guthrum |
Universities shouldn't be policing the political activity of their students. It's a sandbox where young people can develop views and identities without real consequences.
Except in cases where it crosses the line into potentially criminal incitement of violence - which this, arguably, does.
Tho the two tweets are also questionable in equating a dislike of Zionism (in its modern context, a chauvinistic political movement) with antisemitism and hatred of all jews. |
I'm inclined to agree with your first line, as a near free-speech absolutist, indeed universities should not be policing political activity. My question was a more general how have we fostered the conditions for this sort of world view to flourish. Harder to answer.
I also think there's some mis-match in how different camps seem to interpret "Zionism"
By Google's AI definition I retrieved a moment ago, for my own confirmation, I would describe myself as a Zionist. I support the existence of a Jewish state in the land we now call Israel. Does this person want me in the ground? [Post edited 13 Oct 10:08]
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:07 - Oct 13 with 2809 views | DJR |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:44 - Oct 13 by baxterbasics |
These people are insane and it would be funny if not also dangerous.
For many of them it has never been about protesting Israel's brutality - which would be fair do's. Otherwise they'd also be calling out Hamas for their behaviour. It's Israel's very existence they despise.
How has the UK allowed it's university campus' to become so captured? |
My son is at university, and the vast majority of students don't take part in pro-Palestine protests, let alone behave as that person has.
But any that do behave like that deserve absolute condemnation. | | | |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:13 - Oct 13 with 2731 views | DJR |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:55 - Oct 13 by Guthrum |
Universities shouldn't be policing the political activity of their students. It's a sandbox where young people can develop views and identities without real consequences.
Except in cases where it crosses the line into potentially criminal incitement of violence - which this, arguably, does.
Tho the two tweets are also questionable in equating a dislike of Zionism (in its modern context, a chauvinistic political movement) with antisemitism and hatred of all jews. |
I'm with Jeremy Corbyn on the use of the expression Zio. 
In 2016, the British Labour Party released an inquiry into antisemitism stating that "Epithets such as [...] 'Zio' and others should have no place in Labour party discourse going forward." Speaking at the inquiry's launch, party leader Jeremy Corbyn stated that "'Zio' is a vile epithet that follows in a long line of earlier such terms that have no place whatsoever in our party."
EDIT: And from Wikipedia.
The Philologos columnist in Jewish magazine Mosaic, writing in 2016, associated the term with American white-supremacists and said that it was popularized by antisemite David Duke, whose Ku Klux Klan website WikiZio uses Zio as a hyphenated prefix in terms such as "Zio-Communism," "Zio-economics," "Zio-history," "Zio-supremacism," or "Zio-occupied America."[ [Post edited 13 Oct 16:47]
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:19 - Oct 13 with 2660 views | mellowblue |
silly twerp, needs to find another bandwagon to jump on. |  | | |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:29 - Oct 13 with 2552 views | IH_KGF |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:35 - Oct 13 by J2BLUE |
That needed workshopping?
What are they still protesting about? The UK has recognised Palestine. There is the beginning of what will hopefully be a lasting peace. Israeli forces are withdrawing. Not fully but it's a first step. Aid is set to flow into Gaza. What exactly are they protesting for right now?
The veil has well and truly slipped. It became obvious (as if it wasn't already) when they chose the two year anniversary of the attacks on Israel for their pro Palestine event even though it looks likely the conflict was coming to some sort of end.
Scum. |
Its a mental health issue people like this have.
I saw a number of videos this weekend (why i have no idea, as never remotely searched anything to do with this conflict) but there were a number of marches where they seemed to have changed their stance from Free Palestine, to now Get the Jews out of Israel and have it back solely for the Palestine people.
I actually fear we will never hear the end of this. |  | | |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:36 - Oct 13 with 2483 views | Guthrum |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:06 - Oct 13 by baxterbasics |
I'm inclined to agree with your first line, as a near free-speech absolutist, indeed universities should not be policing political activity. My question was a more general how have we fostered the conditions for this sort of world view to flourish. Harder to answer.
I also think there's some mis-match in how different camps seem to interpret "Zionism"
By Google's AI definition I retrieved a moment ago, for my own confirmation, I would describe myself as a Zionist. I support the existence of a Jewish state in the land we now call Israel. Does this person want me in the ground? [Post edited 13 Oct 10:08]
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Zionism is a complex thing, which has changed and evolved over time. Moreover, it is also a label used as a blanket perjorative by its opponents, divorced from any specific meaning (much as the term "Fascist" is used nowadays to describe anyone politically right-ish whom the speaker doesn't like).
Originally, it simply meant a desire to restore a Jewish homeland in the Middle East and was as much driven (in public discourse, at least) by Christian idealists as Jews themselves.
Then, from the late 19th century onwards, Western European Jews and particularly the diaspora in the USA began an active campaign to make it a reality. Fuelled by the weakness and eventual collapse of the Ottoman Empire, plus mass migration of Jews fleeing severe persecution in the Pale* of the Russian Empire. Many of these early leaders were politically left or socialist, seeking to build an egalitarian, democratic society. Those in Europe and America were also isolated from, but incensed by, the often violent strife between Jewish and Arab communities which had been going on for decades.
In the decades after the establishment of Israel and in the face of constant attacks and hostile rhetoric by its neighbours, there was a change. The old socialist Zionists had died and were replaced by more nationalist elements - many of them forged in active military service against the Arabs. The parliamentary system in Israel gave prominence to quite small, but religio-politically extreme Orthodox parties, who had an ideological interest in expanding the country's borders on a Solomonic pattern (i.e. to, or even beyond, the River Jordan).
Thus we end up with modern Zionists like Netanyahu - right-wing, authoritarian, nationalist, chauvanist. Who are different in many ways to the likes of Herzl or Weizmann.
* Russian Jews were forcibly confined to living in a strip along that empire's western border, known as the Pale. Even there, repression, persecution and murder-sprees called pogroms were frequent. | |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:41 - Oct 13 with 2422 views | Herbivore |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:29 - Oct 13 by IH_KGF |
Its a mental health issue people like this have.
I saw a number of videos this weekend (why i have no idea, as never remotely searched anything to do with this conflict) but there were a number of marches where they seemed to have changed their stance from Free Palestine, to now Get the Jews out of Israel and have it back solely for the Palestine people.
I actually fear we will never hear the end of this. |
Think it's a bit of a leap to say that this individual and those like him have a mental health issue. I think they've been radicalised by the same kind of echo chambers that have radicalised people to openly express views about immigration that a few years ago would have been considered hate speech or at least overtly racist. Social media and the algorithms it uses are playing a dangerous role in pushing and normalising increasingly extreme viewpoints. If all you see is content telling you how awful a particular group is and how they are the source of so many problems, it's going to foster some quite skewed and quite troubling views about that group.
As for the individual in question, absolute berk clearly. If the university is able to identify him, he'll go through a disciplinary process and if the police identify him he'll likely face charges. There's no place for openly calling for the death of a group of people.
But people really do need to start questioning why tech bros and the ultra wealthy are so keen to keep everyone angry at groups that aren't responsible for many of the world's ills. There's not many dots to join on that one but people lack the critical thinking skills and attention span to do so. [Post edited 13 Oct 10:48]
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:43 - Oct 13 with 2415 views | Blueschev |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 09:35 - Oct 13 by J2BLUE |
That needed workshopping?
What are they still protesting about? The UK has recognised Palestine. There is the beginning of what will hopefully be a lasting peace. Israeli forces are withdrawing. Not fully but it's a first step. Aid is set to flow into Gaza. What exactly are they protesting for right now?
The veil has well and truly slipped. It became obvious (as if it wasn't already) when they chose the two year anniversary of the attacks on Israel for their pro Palestine event even though it looks likely the conflict was coming to some sort of end.
Scum. |
There is still plenty to protest about, the Palestinians continue to live in a nightmare over which they have no control. That doesn't justify this pr*ck however, whose racism does nothing to further their cause. |  | | |
| Universities these days eh......? on 10:48 - Oct 13 with 2347 views | Bloots |
.....they teach you that "proud" rhymes with "ground".
And then turn you into a Nazi.
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:51 - Oct 13 with 2319 views | Herbivore |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:43 - Oct 13 by Blueschev |
There is still plenty to protest about, the Palestinians continue to live in a nightmare over which they have no control. That doesn't justify this pr*ck however, whose racism does nothing to further their cause. |
I was going to say, as far as I'm aware there are still loads of settlers illegally occupying the West Bank and the Israeli government continues to effectively condone violence and intimidation from those settlers towards Palestinians. Gaza is basically rubble and as yet there's no detail to any plans for how to rebuild it and enable it to be a safe place for Palestinians to live. Conditions in Gaza pre-October 7th were horrific, with it being described as the world's largest open prison, and now it's not even fit for habitation. The move to a ceasefire is positive but we're miles away from that even holding long term, let alone there being a solution that promotes and gives equal weight to the interests of Palestinians in the region. | |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:54 - Oct 13 with 2288 views | IH_KGF |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:41 - Oct 13 by Herbivore |
Think it's a bit of a leap to say that this individual and those like him have a mental health issue. I think they've been radicalised by the same kind of echo chambers that have radicalised people to openly express views about immigration that a few years ago would have been considered hate speech or at least overtly racist. Social media and the algorithms it uses are playing a dangerous role in pushing and normalising increasingly extreme viewpoints. If all you see is content telling you how awful a particular group is and how they are the source of so many problems, it's going to foster some quite skewed and quite troubling views about that group.
As for the individual in question, absolute berk clearly. If the university is able to identify him, he'll go through a disciplinary process and if the police identify him he'll likely face charges. There's no place for openly calling for the death of a group of people.
But people really do need to start questioning why tech bros and the ultra wealthy are so keen to keep everyone angry at groups that aren't responsible for many of the world's ills. There's not many dots to join on that one but people lack the critical thinking skills and attention span to do so. [Post edited 13 Oct 10:48]
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Agree with all of that.... But I'm still firmly comfortable in saying anyone of sound mind doesn't act as he has. Many issues bubbling under the service would be my thoughts/opinion.
If the Uni or police cant identify him, with his face clearly on view, then I'd be amazed. They can identify someone chucking a bottle in a football ground with grainy images. | | | |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:59 - Oct 13 with 2217 views | Guthrum |
| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 10:41 - Oct 13 by Herbivore |
Think it's a bit of a leap to say that this individual and those like him have a mental health issue. I think they've been radicalised by the same kind of echo chambers that have radicalised people to openly express views about immigration that a few years ago would have been considered hate speech or at least overtly racist. Social media and the algorithms it uses are playing a dangerous role in pushing and normalising increasingly extreme viewpoints. If all you see is content telling you how awful a particular group is and how they are the source of so many problems, it's going to foster some quite skewed and quite troubling views about that group.
As for the individual in question, absolute berk clearly. If the university is able to identify him, he'll go through a disciplinary process and if the police identify him he'll likely face charges. There's no place for openly calling for the death of a group of people.
But people really do need to start questioning why tech bros and the ultra wealthy are so keen to keep everyone angry at groups that aren't responsible for many of the world's ills. There's not many dots to join on that one but people lack the critical thinking skills and attention span to do so. [Post edited 13 Oct 10:48]
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Much of it really comes down to increasing their wealth. Clicks equal money and keeping people riled up means they spend more time on the various platforms boosting revenue.
That we are in a time of economic troubles and political uncertainty only helps to drive the process as people seek easy answers.
The irony being that for most of the developed world, standards of living and amount of disposable income have increased greatly in the last five or six decades. But they have not kept pace with the exaggerated promises of politicians, so people are dissatisfied. | |
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| What if a prick wearing your club's colours does something on 11:07 - Oct 13 with 2111 views | eireblue |
Yeah, should be locked up, calling for the death of people, whilst people have been attacked and killed in the U.K.
Jeez, and the morons that chanted along. FFS. |  | | |
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