| Bloody hell that was bad 22:12 - Oct 21 with 2386 views | Dubtractor |
The word disgraceful is thrown around too readily, but that second half was just that.
Hard to understand how we ended 3 nil down to the worst team ive seen this season, they had ao little quality it was astonishing. All they had to do was be organised and patient.
We created very few good openings, and concede under almost no pressure.
The second half from too many on that pitch was absolutely spineless.
Not going to go in on every player, but aside from Clarke and possibly Akpom, every player was toss.
I'm officially concerned at this point. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:17 - Oct 21 with 2324 views | Swansea_Blue |
A bit harsh on the quality comment. Their first came from carrying the ball and beating the defender and keeper with a well placed shot. We had several carries into a shooting position and fluffed our lines, often struggling to even get a shot off at all. Not that I like it, but parking the bus and defending your goal is a quality too. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:17 - Oct 21 with 2333 views | Illinoisblue |
There’s a lack of heart from this bunch. Lack of leadership. And supreme arrogance from KM to make 7 changes. Treating Charlton like they were a L2 team in the league cup. We’ve an unbalanced squad assembled at great cost. Massive work to do. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:20 - Oct 21 with 2283 views | LeoMuff |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:17 - Oct 21 by Swansea_Blue |
A bit harsh on the quality comment. Their first came from carrying the ball and beating the defender and keeper with a well placed shot. We had several carries into a shooting position and fluffed our lines, often struggling to even get a shot off at all. Not that I like it, but parking the bus and defending your goal is a quality too. |
The first came from a huge clearance foward leaving O Shea 1 v 1 wins the header but not a soul anywhere near the half way line to pick up the second ball. Then they have a run 1 v 1.
We commit way too many foward, which is ironic as we create little. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:26 - Oct 21 with 2235 views | ITFC_Forever |
First half was decent enough and should have been ahead.
Second half, we melted like snowflakes as soon as we went behind. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:27 - Oct 21 with 2212 views | Scuzzer |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:20 - Oct 21 by LeoMuff |
The first came from a huge clearance foward leaving O Shea 1 v 1 wins the header but not a soul anywhere near the half way line to pick up the second ball. Then they have a run 1 v 1.
We commit way too many foward, which is ironic as we create little. |
And as any centre back learning your trade will tell you..."You head the ball out towards the side NOT directly back into the centre!"
Schoolboy defending all round really. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:29 - Oct 21 with 2177 views | LeoMuff |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:27 - Oct 21 by Scuzzer |
And as any centre back learning your trade will tell you..."You head the ball out towards the side NOT directly back into the centre!"
Schoolboy defending all round really. |
Think he was at full stretch and couldn’t direct it anywhere else. | |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:30 - Oct 21 with 2137 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:20 - Oct 21 by LeoMuff |
The first came from a huge clearance foward leaving O Shea 1 v 1 wins the header but not a soul anywhere near the half way line to pick up the second ball. Then they have a run 1 v 1.
We commit way too many foward, which is ironic as we create little. |
It doesn’t matter, you still need the quality to make the most of that moment. Carey carried it a long way and still had a lot to do, so showed quality. I only think it does Charlton a disservice to say they lacked quality. They executed their game plan very well.
Not that I disagree that we push up so high it leaves us very vulnerable. That’s been a constant theme this season. | |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:33 - Oct 21 with 2095 views | HighgateBlue |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:17 - Oct 21 by Swansea_Blue |
A bit harsh on the quality comment. Their first came from carrying the ball and beating the defender and keeper with a well placed shot. We had several carries into a shooting position and fluffed our lines, often struggling to even get a shot off at all. Not that I like it, but parking the bus and defending your goal is a quality too. |
They actually GOT a first. And a second. And a third.
We couldn't score for toffee. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't even score if you gave our number 9 a free shot at the keeper from, say 12 yards.
5 shots on target from 30. 1 from 12 in the first half, when Charlton were not threatening. These are sackable offence stats in my view.
4 right backs and only one left back? Sure!
£12m on McAteer when we need a clinical striker? Sure!
McKenna makes some wacky backy decisions, and he must now be held accountable.
Trust the abscess! |  | | |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:37 - Oct 21 with 2034 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:17 - Oct 21 by Illinoisblue |
There’s a lack of heart from this bunch. Lack of leadership. And supreme arrogance from KM to make 7 changes. Treating Charlton like they were a L2 team in the league cup. We’ve an unbalanced squad assembled at great cost. Massive work to do. |
Lack of heart. Lack of fight.
And most obviously of all.. a lack of leadership.
O Shea is light years away as a leader from Morsy.
It’s just not the same. I miss our lads who did the double. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:42 - Oct 21 with 1956 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
That was leaving 10 minutes early bad and I never leave early at home. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:42 - Oct 21 with 1961 views | Nutkins_Return |
I actually think we created more than enough to have won that game comfortably. Some of the finishing was so casual. Others were just plain poor technique.
It was 12 minutes of absolutely shocking defending. Killed us. It was unacceptable.
We actually played quite well box to box for large parts of the game but it's basically irrelevant if we aren't going to put the ball in the net or bother doing the basics in our own box. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:42 - Oct 21 with 1958 views | Mat |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:30 - Oct 21 by Swansea_Blue |
It doesn’t matter, you still need the quality to make the most of that moment. Carey carried it a long way and still had a lot to do, so showed quality. I only think it does Charlton a disservice to say they lacked quality. They executed their game plan very well.
Not that I disagree that we push up so high it leaves us very vulnerable. That’s been a constant theme this season. |
9/10 Charlton lose that game they were awful… that’s football… | | | |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:55 - Oct 21 with 1812 views | 3_5_2 |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:17 - Oct 21 by Swansea_Blue |
A bit harsh on the quality comment. Their first came from carrying the ball and beating the defender and keeper with a well placed shot. We had several carries into a shooting position and fluffed our lines, often struggling to even get a shot off at all. Not that I like it, but parking the bus and defending your goal is a quality too. |
Sorry but totally disagree. Dreadful defending. The player should be engaged before getting into the box, O Shea just kept backing off. Everyone around me was calling for him to go and tackle. Force him wide down the right.
O Shea got worse and worse and their subs pace and direct running exposed want a band average defender he is.
Never a captain in a million years either |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:57 - Oct 21 with 1795 views | BABLUE |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:42 - Oct 21 by Mat |
9/10 Charlton lose that game they were awful… that’s football… |
That’s nonsense |  | | |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:02 - Oct 21 with 1759 views | noggin |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:26 - Oct 21 by ITFC_Forever |
First half was decent enough and should have been ahead.
Second half, we melted like snowflakes as soon as we went behind. |
You could easily be talking about the Boro game here. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:03 - Oct 21 with 1739 views | bluefunk |
My optimism is deserting me. I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but this has been coming, as it seems we are too easy to play against, set up to be well organised, work hard to frustrate us, and then simply play some long balls and wait for our defence to cough up chances, which has been the story for every away game. At home Norwich would have caused us first half problems if they’d had enough quality, even as far back as Portsmouth we looked vulnerable second half, Derby were a late penalty away from winnng. For all the supposed quality we have, this squad is a very long way away from a team. [Post edited 21 Oct 23:06]
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:18 - Oct 21 with 1625 views | LankHenners |
Yeah, any team can have an off night and concede crap goals, happens often, but elements of tonight were far too similar to the Boro game particularly, and in bad spells in other games this season.
First half I agree my main thought was 'christ Charlton are rubbish' as they spent most of the game giving the ball back to us or knocking it out for a throw-in. But the amount of times we pounced on the ball but then took about 4 years to get ourselves into a position to do something useful with it before ultimately hitting it into one of the several defenders who had got back by that point was ridiculous.
The defending on all the goals was awful. You can almost always find something wrong with a conceded goal if you look at it hard enough but all 3 were genuinely utter garbage.
The worst bit for me though was the reaction - as others have said we've got a real problem there. Previously if we conceded a goal, most times we'd be able to wrestle back control of the game almost immediately and start hammering the door down but we properly shrunk into ourselves tonight and that for me is unforgivable.
As you say only really Clarke and Akpom seemed to realise we were losing the match and tried to do something about it. Would stick Azon in the 'comes away with some credit' category as well to be fair but everyone else needs a big kick up the arse.
Can only hope tonight acts as a wake-up call but that Norwich game already feels an eternity ago. |  |
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| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:25 - Oct 21 with 1528 views | Everydayblue |
I try to keep things positive.. But there's no sticking up for that performance.
7 changes??
No leadership??
Schoolboy defending??
Misfiring forwards??
Charlton did exactly what we did to better opposition squads during our promotion season.
10 games in.. It's not a write off.. But there's a lot of work to do for us to even make play offs at this rate. | | | |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:49 - Oct 21 with 1300 views | football |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 22:17 - Oct 21 by Illinoisblue |
There’s a lack of heart from this bunch. Lack of leadership. And supreme arrogance from KM to make 7 changes. Treating Charlton like they were a L2 team in the league cup. We’ve an unbalanced squad assembled at great cost. Massive work to do. |
This is how I see it. On paper, a fantastic team, but lack heart and togetherness and the captain has to take a brunt of that - at the moment he is not a leader | | | |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:57 - Oct 21 with 1193 views | bluebudgie |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:49 - Oct 21 by football |
This is how I see it. On paper, a fantastic team, but lack heart and togetherness and the captain has to take a brunt of that - at the moment he is not a leader |
We are far from being a team, just a bunch of overpriced individuals |  | | |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:59 - Oct 21 with 1174 views | football |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:57 - Oct 21 by bluebudgie |
We are far from being a team, just a bunch of overpriced individuals |
When I say team, I mean a bunch of players. They are clearly not performing as a team | | | |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 00:00 - Oct 22 with 1134 views | football |
| Bloody hell that was bad on 23:25 - Oct 21 by Everydayblue |
I try to keep things positive.. But there's no sticking up for that performance.
7 changes??
No leadership??
Schoolboy defending??
Misfiring forwards??
Charlton did exactly what we did to better opposition squads during our promotion season.
10 games in.. It's not a write off.. But there's a lot of work to do for us to even make play offs at this rate. |
Lack of leadership is the main thing. O'Shea is not up to the role as captain. He is silent though the whole game - a few hand gestures but that's it. | | | |
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