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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge 09:50 - Oct 27 with 932 viewsnrb1985

Sorry, I know Rory Stewart and others on the board don't like the ongoing Andrew "chat".

However, this appeared in the standard this morning:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/royals/prince-andrew-fergie-royal-lodge-exit-fro

Can somebody more au fait with this type of thing explain how his ex wife, of 30 years now, is entitled to a free house still?! Surely she's just a private citizen and has been for three decades now?

Pair of absolutely shameless freeloaders.
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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 09:55 - Oct 27 with 873 viewsmutters

IIRC Andrew made a one off payment years ago which entitles him and his descendants to live there for a period of time. It's basically paying a lease/rent upfront but the money was used to refurb the property. If he leaves early then they Crown would have to refund him some of that money.

I can't recall all the details as I read it a while ago, but legally I don't think they can shift him easily

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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:01 - Oct 27 with 824 viewsDJR

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 09:55 - Oct 27 by mutters

IIRC Andrew made a one off payment years ago which entitles him and his descendants to live there for a period of time. It's basically paying a lease/rent upfront but the money was used to refurb the property. If he leaves early then they Crown would have to refund him some of that money.

I can't recall all the details as I read it a while ago, but legally I don't think they can shift him easily


I'd quite happily move into most properties if all I had to pay was the cost of refurbishment, but the more curious thing is how he gets the funds to settle with his accuser and maintain his lavish lifestyle.

It's all very opaque.
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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:22 - Oct 27 with 706 viewsGuthrum

Sarah isn't entitled to anything. This is just them setting out what they want. Since the divorce, she has no official position within the Royal Family, has been living at Royal Lodge effectively as a guest of Andrew, who actually has a lease - which he paid for (tho where the money for that and required ongong maintenance came from is an interesting question). There is no freeloading involved.

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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:29 - Oct 27 with 655 viewsnrb1985

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 09:55 - Oct 27 by mutters

IIRC Andrew made a one off payment years ago which entitles him and his descendants to live there for a period of time. It's basically paying a lease/rent upfront but the money was used to refurb the property. If he leaves early then they Crown would have to refund him some of that money.

I can't recall all the details as I read it a while ago, but legally I don't think they can shift him easily


I understand that - unfortunately, a legal contract is a legal contract, but finally he seems to have seen sense and is moving to a more "modest" five bedroom home - lolz.

My post was in relation to his wife. How is she entitled to free anything?
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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:30 - Oct 27 with 647 viewsnrb1985

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:01 - Oct 27 by DJR

I'd quite happily move into most properties if all I had to pay was the cost of refurbishment, but the more curious thing is how he gets the funds to settle with his accuser and maintain his lavish lifestyle.

It's all very opaque.


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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:30 - Oct 27 with 648 viewsGuthrum

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:01 - Oct 27 by DJR

I'd quite happily move into most properties if all I had to pay was the cost of refurbishment, but the more curious thing is how he gets the funds to settle with his accuser and maintain his lavish lifestyle.

It's all very opaque.


Only semi-opaque. It's all "gifts" and loans from "friends", or payments for use of his name/title and contacts by businesses. That's how he got tangled up with the likes of Epstein in the first place.

The opaque bit is exactly who these people are giving him money and what they might get in return.

Andrew doesn't get funding from the Royal Family any more. He will have inherited a reasonable amount and have some investments. Plus his naval officer's pension (which is not much, in the grand scheme of things).

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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:31 - Oct 27 with 648 viewsDarkBrandon

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:29 - Oct 27 by nrb1985

I understand that - unfortunately, a legal contract is a legal contract, but finally he seems to have seen sense and is moving to a more "modest" five bedroom home - lolz.

My post was in relation to his wife. How is she entitled to free anything?


ex-wife. Although they are now apparently back together.

Lets turn the question round.

Should Andrew be prevented from having a companion/partner of his choice living with him.
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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:33 - Oct 27 with 634 viewsGuthrum

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:31 - Oct 27 by DarkBrandon

ex-wife. Although they are now apparently back together.

Lets turn the question round.

Should Andrew be prevented from having a companion/partner of his choice living with him.


Tho that isn't really the OP's question. The article suggests Sarah wants a separate house provided, not actually living with Andrew. Nothing to stop them sharing a home.

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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:34 - Oct 27 with 627 viewsBlueschev

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:31 - Oct 27 by DarkBrandon

ex-wife. Although they are now apparently back together.

Lets turn the question round.

Should Andrew be prevented from having a companion/partner of his choice living with him.


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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:35 - Oct 27 with 633 viewsSwansea_Blue

There’s something weird going on there. A lot of the papers are now making her and the kids out as victims, but her relationship with Epstein was strange to say the least. The whole issue with Epstein, the payoffs and now the supposed offer of a free mansion in Saudi. It’s all very opaque indeed and feels exceedingly grubby (and potentially some criminality in there of course, that will never be investigated).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddmr6v0jpzo.amp

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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:39 - Oct 27 with 575 viewsBlueBadger

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:30 - Oct 27 by nrb1985

Brilliant that somebody downvoted this!!!

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A DaveU downvote is a basically a sign that you are unerringly correct.

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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:41 - Oct 27 with 549 viewsnrb1985

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:33 - Oct 27 by Guthrum

Tho that isn't really the OP's question. The article suggests Sarah wants a separate house provided, not actually living with Andrew. Nothing to stop them sharing a home.


Yes, exactly this.
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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:41 - Oct 27 with 552 viewsDarkBrandon

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:33 - Oct 27 by Guthrum

Tho that isn't really the OP's question. The article suggests Sarah wants a separate house provided, not actually living with Andrew. Nothing to stop them sharing a home.


I'd missed that. The article states they've re-split up following recent events.

I have some sympathy for the royals. Nobody in their right minds would want to be born into that life. He's clearly a grade A a-hole, but I have no objection to what is described in that article.
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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:07 - Oct 27 with 478 viewsnrb1985

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:35 - Oct 27 by Swansea_Blue

There’s something weird going on there. A lot of the papers are now making her and the kids out as victims, but her relationship with Epstein was strange to say the least. The whole issue with Epstein, the payoffs and now the supposed offer of a free mansion in Saudi. It’s all very opaque indeed and feels exceedingly grubby (and potentially some criminality in there of course, that will never be investigated).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddmr6v0jpzo.amp


Indeed.

Quite how somebody marries into one of the richest families in the world and puts themselves in a position where she needs a £15k debt to be paid off by a convicted sex offender is frankly baffling.

I feel sorry for the two daughters - having a pair of absolute wronguns like that for parents can't be fun.
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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:10 - Oct 27 with 462 viewsNthQldITFC

Is Rory Stewart on this board? I always thought he was a Leicester fan, given his penchant for chasing foxes.

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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:23 - Oct 27 with 368 viewsZx1988

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:07 - Oct 27 by nrb1985

Indeed.

Quite how somebody marries into one of the richest families in the world and puts themselves in a position where she needs a £15k debt to be paid off by a convicted sex offender is frankly baffling.

I feel sorry for the two daughters - having a pair of absolute wronguns like that for parents can't be fun.


It wouldn't surprise me one bit if, behind the scenes, she's playing the line that, if cut off by the Royals, her only alternative income source would be a tell-all memoir.

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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:58 - Oct 27 with 241 viewsFtnfwest

Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 09:55 - Oct 27 by mutters

IIRC Andrew made a one off payment years ago which entitles him and his descendants to live there for a period of time. It's basically paying a lease/rent upfront but the money was used to refurb the property. If he leaves early then they Crown would have to refund him some of that money.

I can't recall all the details as I read it a while ago, but legally I don't think they can shift him easily


I think as it currently stands he's only a couple of years away from the point where he wouldn't get any 'refund' back from CE for the initial capital outlay on the refurbishments (25 years form when they were done?) It's really from that point that he would benefit from the real 'peppercorn' rent situation so at least he loses out on that.
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Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 12:53 - Oct 27 with 114 viewsZx1988

As for Rory Stewart and his ilk imploring us to focus on the 'bigger issues', do we think this is an honestly-held position?

Or is it more that the Royals are starting to feel the heat a little here, and have turned to some useful mouthpieces to try and persuade us to turn our attentions elsewhere?

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