| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. 09:20 - Nov 5 with 1251 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
We now worry whether players can manage 3 games in 8 days!! 🤣🤣 |  |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:22 - Nov 5 with 1106 views | JammyDodgerrr |
It's a totally different, physical game. You can't compare it. |  |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:24 - Nov 5 with 1093 views | Metal_Hacker |
I'm not sure it's simply worrying they can't play 3 games in 8 days but more so trying to maximise fitness throughout the season whilst maintaining an edge against your opponent on a game by game basis perhaps |  |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:28 - Nov 5 with 1050 views | mellowblue |
Question, did they have the totting up of yellow cards leading to suspension then, or was Holland just good at avoiding yellow cards. Completely forgotten about his consecutive games stat. Obviously a robust player. |  | | |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:37 - Nov 5 with 1005 views | EastTownBlue |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:28 - Nov 5 by mellowblue |
Question, did they have the totting up of yellow cards leading to suspension then, or was Holland just good at avoiding yellow cards. Completely forgotten about his consecutive games stat. Obviously a robust player. |
There was but he rarely picked up yellow cards. | | | |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:39 - Nov 5 with 999 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:22 - Nov 5 by JammyDodgerrr |
It's a totally different, physical game. You can't compare it. |
Its nonsense. | |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:40 - Nov 5 with 991 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:24 - Nov 5 by Metal_Hacker |
I'm not sure it's simply worrying they can't play 3 games in 8 days but more so trying to maximise fitness throughout the season whilst maintaining an edge against your opponent on a game by game basis perhaps |
I prefer to maximise points. | |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:41 - Nov 5 with 986 views | nrb1985 |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:39 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Its nonsense. |
Central midfielders today run about 17-20km a match on average.
Roy Keane's fabled solo performance in '99 vs. Juve saw him run just under 12km.
It is a completely different game in terms of physicality. | | | |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:47 - Nov 5 with 958 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:37 - Nov 5 by EastTownBlue |
There was but he rarely picked up yellow cards. |
He picked up 4 in his entire Town career!
Can't ever recall him being subbed either. |  |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:48 - Nov 5 with 951 views | Steve_M |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:47 - Nov 5 by gainsboroughblue |
He picked up 4 in his entire Town career!
Can't ever recall him being subbed either. |
Although one of those, at Sunderland in a TV game, really should have been a red. |  |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:54 - Nov 5 with 932 views | Rimsy |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:22 - Nov 5 by JammyDodgerrr |
It's a totally different, physical game. You can't compare it. |
Don't be silly. Playing sixty odd games a season on less than perfect surfaces was much more gruelling than what they have to do now. Also only 1 or 2 subs allowed. We should play our best team every game, only make changes when form or injuries dictates. |  |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 10:13 - Nov 5 with 882 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:41 - Nov 5 by nrb1985 |
Central midfielders today run about 17-20km a match on average.
Roy Keane's fabled solo performance in '99 vs. Juve saw him run just under 12km.
It is a completely different game in terms of physicality. |
Where have you got the 17-20km figure from?
I'm seriously doubting that. | |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 10:19 - Nov 5 with 851 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:40 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I prefer to maximise points. |
Ermmm…don’t we all 🤷🏻♂️ | |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 10:20 - Nov 5 with 840 views | mellowblue |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:47 - Nov 5 by gainsboroughblue |
He picked up 4 in his entire Town career!
Can't ever recall him being subbed either. |
That's remarkable really, would have taken Morsy about 11 games to amass 4 bookings. | | | |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 10:36 - Nov 5 with 801 views | Bluemike31 |
It certainly won't be beaten under McKenna, lucky if you make Two successive games. | | | |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 11:40 - Nov 5 with 730 views | peterleeblue |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 10:13 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Where have you got the 17-20km figure from?
I'm seriously doubting that. |
As a ref I cover c10-11k per game on a Sunday Morning. About 8k on a National North Line. |  | | |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 12:42 - Nov 5 with 659 views | positivity |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:54 - Nov 5 by Rimsy |
Don't be silly. Playing sixty odd games a season on less than perfect surfaces was much more gruelling than what they have to do now. Also only 1 or 2 subs allowed. We should play our best team every game, only make changes when form or injuries dictates. |
ah, the paul hurst approach. caning them too much or bringing them back too early just causes more injuries
as was pointed out in the athletic, players playing 90 minutes have to compete with half a team of fresh players once the subs are made. the workload is much greater, the pace is much greater | |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 14:56 - Nov 5 with 577 views | Rimsy |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 12:42 - Nov 5 by positivity |
ah, the paul hurst approach. caning them too much or bringing them back too early just causes more injuries
as was pointed out in the athletic, players playing 90 minutes have to compete with half a team of fresh players once the subs are made. the workload is much greater, the pace is much greater |
We'll agree to disagree then.
No way is the pace of the game greater than before. Especially when we slow everything down from the back, as is our want. | |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 15:03 - Nov 5 with 566 views | jonbull88 |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 12:42 - Nov 5 by positivity |
ah, the paul hurst approach. caning them too much or bringing them back too early just causes more injuries
as was pointed out in the athletic, players playing 90 minutes have to compete with half a team of fresh players once the subs are made. the workload is much greater, the pace is much greater |
I’d go as far as to say by 80 last night quite a few of our players were blowing out of their backsides. Which to me makes me think they can’t handle 90. So by always rotating might keep players “fresh”
I think it doesn’t actually help in a way [Post edited 5 Nov 15:04]
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 15:06 - Nov 5 with 555 views | positivity |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 14:56 - Nov 5 by Rimsy |
We'll agree to disagree then.
No way is the pace of the game greater than before. Especially when we slow everything down from the back, as is our want. |
watch some seventies football back, most of the time they seem like they're running through treacle, pressing and tracking back is vastly inferior! | |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 15:15 - Nov 5 with 534 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:40 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I prefer to maximise points. |
I'll let McKenna know. He was just doing it for the hell of it. If he knows not doing this will maximise points I'm sure he'll change it.
Look at the ridiculous amount of games we play in quick succession. Clearly is trying to balance it with a view of benefit over the season keeping freshness and injuries down in the group. The theory is over the course of the season our superior squad resources and rotating will mean we will be strong later.
The rotation really isn't the main problem here. Of course of it was a 20 game season he wouldn't be doing it as much. We aren't at our best but crucially we aren't efficient in scoring/defending and that's what is costing us. Got argument is the two are linked but I'm not sure I completely agree to be honest. Taylor, Nunez who you wanted playing presumably missed sitters | |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 15:20 - Nov 5 with 519 views | positivity |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 15:03 - Nov 5 by jonbull88 |
I’d go as far as to say by 80 last night quite a few of our players were blowing out of their backsides. Which to me makes me think they can’t handle 90. So by always rotating might keep players “fresh”
I think it doesn’t actually help in a way [Post edited 5 Nov 15:04]
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but imagine what they'd be like if they had to play more, they wouldn't be blowing, they'd be injured.
the starting players who were on the pitch at 80' were those who mostly play 90' every week, so not sure your argument stands up, suggests more rotation is needed! | |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 15:47 - Nov 5 with 463 views | jonbull88 |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 15:20 - Nov 5 by positivity |
but imagine what they'd be like if they had to play more, they wouldn't be blowing, they'd be injured.
the starting players who were on the pitch at 80' were those who mostly play 90' every week, so not sure your argument stands up, suggests more rotation is needed! |
Peak fitness “match fitness” only happens when players play regularly. Could I run 10k right now? No as I’m not used to it. If I trained and ran a couple of times a week I’m sure id reach 10k, but if I dropped back to 3-4k for a few weeks, would I suddenly be able to run a 10k race, possibly, but would definitely be blowing. | | | |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 15:55 - Nov 5 with 447 views | Vic |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 09:54 - Nov 5 by Rimsy |
Don't be silly. Playing sixty odd games a season on less than perfect surfaces was much more gruelling than what they have to do now. Also only 1 or 2 subs allowed. We should play our best team every game, only make changes when form or injuries dictates. |
No way were the players in the 70/80's as fit as they are now. Fags, booze and nightclubs took a toll on many of them. Preseason training was a job round the town and a few friendlies. Today they all have individual diets and few smoke or drink. In fact the players today, in general, are more like finely tuned athletes most of the time. And I wouldn't mind betting they cover way more ground during a game than 40 years ago
Agree about the pitches though! |  |
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 16:03 - Nov 5 with 421 views | positivity |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 15:47 - Nov 5 by jonbull88 |
Peak fitness “match fitness” only happens when players play regularly. Could I run 10k right now? No as I’m not used to it. If I trained and ran a couple of times a week I’m sure id reach 10k, but if I dropped back to 3-4k for a few weeks, would I suddenly be able to run a 10k race, possibly, but would definitely be blowing. |
you said the players were blowing at 80'. who did you mean, as the players who'd played the 80' were furlong, o'shea, kipre, azor, egeli who'd played every second of the last 3 games (except egeli who was subbed v qpr), so passing your "playing regularly" test
it seems like they need a rest, if they're blowing at 80'! [Post edited 5 Nov 16:04]
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| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 17:40 - Nov 5 with 323 views | mellowblue |
| Matt Hollands 233 consecutive matches for Town will never be beaten. on 10:13 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Where have you got the 17-20km figure from?
I'm seriously doubting that. |
I did when I saw it, I thought it was typically in the 10-11 area. | | | |
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