| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? 23:10 - Nov 15 with 8914 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
https://metro.co.uk/video/brit
Is this actually for real? Without any self-awareness at all? Dressed like paramilitaries too. |  |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 22:51 - Nov 17 with 1004 views | lowhouseblue |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 22:21 - Nov 17 by Kievthegreat |
That dataset includes "economically inactive" people who came to the UK in 1962, they could have worked their whole life up until last year and retired early. It also includes nearly half a million students who may have only been in the UK since the start of the academic year. Maybe they moved to the UK and became a stay at home mum while their husband works full-time. The thing is the data doesn't tell you the breakdown of why (except students) and it doesn't tell you when and for how long.
At the end of the day, the number of people who are economically active can never be 100%. However we can see in the numbers that those born outside the UK for more likely to be economically active than those born within it, so those migrants are increasing the UK's rates of economic activity, not burdening it. [Post edited 17 Nov 2025 22:22]
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apologies i have mis quoted the number (plus i hadn't checked the november release). but the point still stands. the number of economically inactive non-uk nationals, EXCLUDING students, between 16 and 64, as at sept 2025 was 1,205,000.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employm
again, yes we have economically inactive uk nationals - but why does our immigration policy bring in non-uk nationals who are inactive. how is that possibly of benefit to the uk?
why not only admit those who will be economically productive and make that a condition of remaining? if we are justifying immigration as being beneficial (which an awful lot of it is of course very) why is that unreasonable? |  |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 23:13 - Nov 17 with 960 views | vapour_trail |
That’s the quickest I’ve ever seen a post removed from this place. |  |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 06:46 - Nov 18 with 820 views | noggin |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 22:51 - Nov 17 by lowhouseblue |
apologies i have mis quoted the number (plus i hadn't checked the november release). but the point still stands. the number of economically inactive non-uk nationals, EXCLUDING students, between 16 and 64, as at sept 2025 was 1,205,000.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employm
again, yes we have economically inactive uk nationals - but why does our immigration policy bring in non-uk nationals who are inactive. how is that possibly of benefit to the uk?
why not only admit those who will be economically productive and make that a condition of remaining? if we are justifying immigration as being beneficial (which an awful lot of it is of course very) why is that unreasonable? |
I have personally attended quite a few refugees that have very complex psychological problems. Not surprising considering what they have suffered in their home lands and during the journey to Europe. They simply would not be able to hold down a job. [Post edited 18 Nov 2025 6:48]
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 08:11 - Nov 18 with 747 views | Herbivore |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 23:13 - Nov 17 by vapour_trail |
That’s the quickest I’ve ever seen a post removed from this place. |
I always miss the really spicy ones. Some blatant racism or the usual in-fighting crossing the line? |  |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 09:53 - Nov 18 with 673 views | vapour_trail |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 08:11 - Nov 18 by Herbivore |
I always miss the really spicy ones. Some blatant racism or the usual in-fighting crossing the line? |
The former. It was pretty horrendous. | |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 09:54 - Nov 18 with 671 views | Herbivore |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 09:53 - Nov 18 by vapour_trail |
The former. It was pretty horrendous. |
Oh dear. Hopefully the culprit as well as the post is long gone. | |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 09:57 - Nov 18 with 659 views | Whos_blue |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 09:53 - Nov 18 by vapour_trail |
The former. It was pretty horrendous. |
Sad if true.
Glad it was stopped in it's tracks by admin though.
It's a delicate balance for admin to remove hateful comments vs letting us all see people for who they really are.
Was the poster removed too or just a post removed and a yellow card?
I'm not pushing for a user name reveal. Just curious. |  |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 11:10 - Nov 18 with 587 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 08:11 - Nov 18 by Herbivore |
I always miss the really spicy ones. Some blatant racism or the usual in-fighting crossing the line? |
Me too. The late night posters are an odd bunch. No one has really nailed down that role since we lost the late great Dalai Farmer. |  |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 11:12 - Nov 18 with 588 views | DJR |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 22:51 - Nov 17 by lowhouseblue |
apologies i have mis quoted the number (plus i hadn't checked the november release). but the point still stands. the number of economically inactive non-uk nationals, EXCLUDING students, between 16 and 64, as at sept 2025 was 1,205,000.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employm
again, yes we have economically inactive uk nationals - but why does our immigration policy bring in non-uk nationals who are inactive. how is that possibly of benefit to the uk?
why not only admit those who will be economically productive and make that a condition of remaining? if we are justifying immigration as being beneficial (which an awful lot of it is of course very) why is that unreasonable? |
I am not an expert but the green card system in the US, and the working visa system in Spain, appears to allow a spouse and children of a person with a green card or visa to join them, whether or not the spouse works.
Isn't that the norm, even if there may be income requirements? It certainly was when my parents emigrated because my mother didn't work.
And your last proposal would mean that someone who has been in this country for decades would be required to leave were they to lose their job.
Is that the sort of system you are envisaging? [Post edited 18 Nov 2025 11:20]
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 11:16 - Nov 18 with 577 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 09:57 - Nov 18 by Whos_blue |
Sad if true.
Glad it was stopped in it's tracks by admin though.
It's a delicate balance for admin to remove hateful comments vs letting us all see people for who they really are.
Was the poster removed too or just a post removed and a yellow card?
I'm not pushing for a user name reveal. Just curious. |
The thread has been conducted in a civilised manner so very disappointing if someone was posting vile racism.
Phil can edit posts so rather than remove the post he could put a note in its place saying "Post removed for blatant racism". That would make people think twice before posting. | |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 11:30 - Nov 18 with 556 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 11:12 - Nov 18 by DJR |
I am not an expert but the green card system in the US, and the working visa system in Spain, appears to allow a spouse and children of a person with a green card or visa to join them, whether or not the spouse works.
Isn't that the norm, even if there may be income requirements? It certainly was when my parents emigrated because my mother didn't work.
And your last proposal would mean that someone who has been in this country for decades would be required to leave were they to lose their job.
Is that the sort of system you are envisaging? [Post edited 18 Nov 2025 11:20]
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I went to the States as a non-working spouse, together with our kids who according to this warped ideology would have ‘burdened’ the local school system. It’s the obvious morally correct position to not break up partners and families. But there’s an element on the right (as seen continuously in the press and from online commentators) who only value a person according to their current ability to create wealth for someone else. Anything that can’t be measured financially has no value to them.
So, your mother and mine (and probably their’s if they’re of the boomer generation) are viewed as of lesser value. Which is quite clearly utter bobbins, as there’s nothing more valuable than raising decent people to carry on when we’ve all gone. Or from volunteering in communities, engaging in local activities to literally form the community, running errands for neighbours, etc. There are countless ways people add value beyond being economically active. [Post edited 18 Nov 2025 11:32]
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| Was it that "Luther Blissett" character....? on 12:07 - Nov 18 with 509 views | Bloots |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 11:16 - Nov 18 by GlasgowBlue |
The thread has been conducted in a civilised manner so very disappointing if someone was posting vile racism.
Phil can edit posts so rather than remove the post he could put a note in its place saying "Post removed for blatant racism". That would make people think twice before posting. |
....I can see that he's been binned.
Another wrongun. |  |
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| Was it that "Luther Blissett" character....? on 12:35 - Nov 18 with 460 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Was it that "Luther Blissett" character....? on 12:07 - Nov 18 by Bloots |
....I can see that he's been binned.
Another wrongun. |
I've never forgiven him for scoring a brace against us at FPR in 1983/84 | |
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| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 13:14 - Nov 18 with 410 views | Kievthegreat |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 22:51 - Nov 17 by lowhouseblue |
apologies i have mis quoted the number (plus i hadn't checked the november release). but the point still stands. the number of economically inactive non-uk nationals, EXCLUDING students, between 16 and 64, as at sept 2025 was 1,205,000.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employm
again, yes we have economically inactive uk nationals - but why does our immigration policy bring in non-uk nationals who are inactive. how is that possibly of benefit to the uk?
why not only admit those who will be economically productive and make that a condition of remaining? if we are justifying immigration as being beneficial (which an awful lot of it is of course very) why is that unreasonable? |
So if someone came to the UK worked, but now cares for their partner or child, they shouldn't be allowed to remain? The moment they become a carer they become economically inactive. That's why your last paragraph is unreasonable.
You say "why does our immigration policy bring in non-uk nationals who are inactive", but what proportion of those classed as "inactive" are those who recently arrived? That 1.2million people includes 60+ years of migration. Can we really judge immigration policy that there are potentially 100,000s of people who retired early because they've earned enough or because they've needed to become a carer for a family member?
Also, those datasets show that the ratio of active to inactive people economically is dropping amongst those born outside the UK. So as new migrants come to the country, the proportion of migrants working is increasing. Doesn't suggest we're inviting large number of inactive people, would seem more plausible we're inviting people who are more likely to work each year.
Finally, are we forgetting the fact that if you earn enough, you can support the application of a spouse and children? If one person is earning decent money and their partner is a stay at home parent, that is covered by immigration rules. That person is a benefit and is supported so they are not economically burdensome. All inside the 1.2m still though. |  | | |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 13:55 - Nov 18 with 373 views | Whos_blue |
| Has the English patriots marching in Benidorm been done? on 11:16 - Nov 18 by GlasgowBlue |
The thread has been conducted in a civilised manner so very disappointing if someone was posting vile racism.
Phil can edit posts so rather than remove the post he could put a note in its place saying "Post removed for blatant racism". That would make people think twice before posting. |
I really like this idea Glassers or at least an appropriation of it.
As I said, it's a tough call if the comments are vile and deserve a ban vs keeping any comments but threads being derailed by those and thus destroying good threads.
I think we all agree that Phil, Gav and Mark are usually on the money with their decision making. | |
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