| Cajuste 09:26 - Nov 26 with 1375 views | cbower |
I know he is now injured and this may, therefore, seem churlish but I don't want to watch him jogging around the pitch, making minimal effort to get back when the opposition break on us. Lovely ability on the ball but right now, Taylor needs to start above him. Jack offers so much more energy and drive despite being a less technically talented individual. Jens just doesn't look anywhere near fit to me. |  |
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| Cajuste on 09:28 - Nov 26 with 1243 views | left_foot |
Biggest disappointment of the season so far for me. I thought he was going to be a huge asset for us in the Championship, but so far he's not delivering. [Post edited 26 Nov 9:30]
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| Cajuste on 09:29 - Nov 26 with 1239 views | Portman_Pie |
Surprisingly - Cajuste has been one of the biggest disappointments this season. I’ve gone from being really super pleased that he came back in the summer - to genuinely hoping he isn’t starting now. Possibly the most under whelming player at present. I expected him to walk this league - and quite honestly - he’s been abysmal to date. | | | |
| Cajuste on 09:33 - Nov 26 with 1177 views | baxterbasics |
At least we can take some comfort, if his form doesn't pick up, that we haven't bought him outright at big expense.
Although can't remember if we have an obligation to buy this time? |  |
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| Cajuste on 09:45 - Nov 26 with 1067 views | portmanking |
My number-one concern going into the season was whether Cajuste's body would stand up to the rigours of the EFL. It's abundantly clear that it can't. It makes you wonder whether the links to playing in the Middle East were because he knows his playing career is likely to be limited and it's time to try and coin it in?
Naturally, I'm delighted that Jack is finally realising his potential and benefitting from KMac's tutelage and man management.
But yes, Cajuste clearly benefitted from the bigger gaps between games in the Premier League. We may need to dip into the transfer market for another mid if this continues, as we can't rely on Taylor and Azor for the next 30 games. [Post edited 26 Nov 9:46]
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| Cajuste on 09:47 - Nov 26 with 1053 views | bluesym |
As others have said,a huge disappointment. If we had the option to cancel the loan in January,id hope the club will take that option and bing in someone who is a better fit for where we currently are. |  |
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| Cajuste on 09:48 - Nov 26 with 1042 views | Metal_Hacker |
I've made comment on another thread about this
I stood there last night watching him actually jogging back (and calling it jogging is doing him a favour ffs) after we lost the ball in midfield and were under attack
Again as I said in my other post , whether it was very early injury or just lack of effort I'm really not sure but please let's get someone else in before Matusiwa runs himself into the ground ! |  |
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| Cajuste on 09:51 - Nov 26 with 1008 views | BseaBlue |
| Cajuste on 09:45 - Nov 26 by portmanking |
My number-one concern going into the season was whether Cajuste's body would stand up to the rigours of the EFL. It's abundantly clear that it can't. It makes you wonder whether the links to playing in the Middle East were because he knows his playing career is likely to be limited and it's time to try and coin it in?
Naturally, I'm delighted that Jack is finally realising his potential and benefitting from KMac's tutelage and man management.
But yes, Cajuste clearly benefitted from the bigger gaps between games in the Premier League. We may need to dip into the transfer market for another mid if this continues, as we can't rely on Taylor and Azor for the next 30 games. [Post edited 26 Nov 9:46]
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My heart says I hope we follow our mantra of going back in for long-term targets and sign Hackney in Jan. My head says he will be off to Wolves. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 10:00 - Nov 26 with 929 views | FrimleyBlue |
I dont know if its his knee. Or if he feels like hes playing somewhere he doesn't want to be but when he plays he actually kills our midfield.
Im gutted as I love cajuste. But this season hes been a liability for me. |  |
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| Cajuste on 10:03 - Nov 26 with 905 views | cbower |
| Cajuste on 09:51 - Nov 26 by BseaBlue |
My heart says I hope we follow our mantra of going back in for long-term targets and sign Hackney in Jan. My head says he will be off to Wolves. |
If he goes to Wolves, he likely be a Championship player again next season. McKenna wanted Hackney but I can’t see what has changed to entice him to come here unfortunately. | |
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| Cajuste on 10:03 - Nov 26 with 894 views | TractorJack |
It's watching him going in for 50/50s as well, just no conviction. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 10:10 - Nov 26 with 814 views | LankHenners |
He does look like he's carrying an injury, not because of his languid style but just doesn't seem to be able to properly push off and accelerate either with the ball or without it. Maybe he's just one of those players that has the technical ability but his body doesn't let him deal with the rigours of professional football.
I do think some of the criticism, and specifically the vindictiveness of it, towards him from 'fans' has been really poor though. He's not the only one to get that treatment this season unfortunately but some of the crap people come out with is really stupid. And the next person to do the sarcastic 'but I was told he was a cheat code' thing can get a lengthy stadium ban.
Not convinced Taylor is the answer really either, seems to be a classic case of people going off one player so the praise in his replacement goes OTT the other way. He plays closer to Matusiwa and looks busier on the ball but I don't agree that his impact on the matches is as great as made out. You'd have been forgiven for not realising he was on the pitch against Wrexham, and the only time you'd have noticed him against Watford was when he blazed a good chance over the bar.
We still have a problem in there - think Nunez may end up being the best option but for a variety of reasons he's needed further forwards right now (which I also don't think works as well as is said but that's another point!). |  |
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| Cajuste on 10:13 - Nov 26 with 774 views | portmanking |
| Cajuste on 10:10 - Nov 26 by LankHenners |
He does look like he's carrying an injury, not because of his languid style but just doesn't seem to be able to properly push off and accelerate either with the ball or without it. Maybe he's just one of those players that has the technical ability but his body doesn't let him deal with the rigours of professional football.
I do think some of the criticism, and specifically the vindictiveness of it, towards him from 'fans' has been really poor though. He's not the only one to get that treatment this season unfortunately but some of the crap people come out with is really stupid. And the next person to do the sarcastic 'but I was told he was a cheat code' thing can get a lengthy stadium ban.
Not convinced Taylor is the answer really either, seems to be a classic case of people going off one player so the praise in his replacement goes OTT the other way. He plays closer to Matusiwa and looks busier on the ball but I don't agree that his impact on the matches is as great as made out. You'd have been forgiven for not realising he was on the pitch against Wrexham, and the only time you'd have noticed him against Watford was when he blazed a good chance over the bar.
We still have a problem in there - think Nunez may end up being the best option but for a variety of reasons he's needed further forwards right now (which I also don't think works as well as is said but that's another point!). |
Sorry, but Jack absolutely ran the midfield for most of last night's second half. More legs, tenacity and composure, although Matusiwa's screening job is equally important. | | | |
| Cajuste on 10:13 - Nov 26 with 772 views | MrPotatoHead |
Its a shame, he's clearly talented but he's the absolute definition of a show pony at the moment. There's no work rate there at all, no energy, the amount of times his man runs off him is ridiculous at this level of football. He'll do a pirouette in the centre circle and people cream themselves over it but he's completely ineffectual and a passenger for the most part. Its one of 2 things, either fitness or desire. I don't like saying it but he strikes me as someone who doesn't give a sh1t.
We've got enough quality elsewhere that we need a water carrier in there, its what Luongo did so well to create the conditions for others to play. Taylor is much, much better suited to the role and it wouldn't surprise me if we add another in Jan. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 10:13 - Nov 26 with 771 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Cajuste on 09:51 - Nov 26 by BseaBlue |
My heart says I hope we follow our mantra of going back in for long-term targets and sign Hackney in Jan. My head says he will be off to Wolves. |
I wonder if Hackney will look at the bigger picture and see Town as the better option for
Premier League football next season. | | | |
| Cajuste on 10:15 - Nov 26 with 757 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Cajuste on 10:13 - Nov 26 by MrPotatoHead |
Its a shame, he's clearly talented but he's the absolute definition of a show pony at the moment. There's no work rate there at all, no energy, the amount of times his man runs off him is ridiculous at this level of football. He'll do a pirouette in the centre circle and people cream themselves over it but he's completely ineffectual and a passenger for the most part. Its one of 2 things, either fitness or desire. I don't like saying it but he strikes me as someone who doesn't give a sh1t.
We've got enough quality elsewhere that we need a water carrier in there, its what Luongo did so well to create the conditions for others to play. Taylor is much, much better suited to the role and it wouldn't surprise me if we add another in Jan. |
I just think with jens, its a case of neither club nor player actually wanted the move to happen but both had little option once other options didn't come off. totally an opinion. but i just don't see how we or jens really wanted to be here when his move took so long to actually happen with very little reason for it to take so long and us clearly not getting our first targets | |
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| Cajuste on 10:19 - Nov 26 with 723 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Cajuste on 10:15 - Nov 26 by FrimleyBlue |
I just think with jens, its a case of neither club nor player actually wanted the move to happen but both had little option once other options didn't come off. totally an opinion. but i just don't see how we or jens really wanted to be here when his move took so long to actually happen with very little reason for it to take so long and us clearly not getting our first targets |
I'm sure if the club didn't want it to happen Frimmers then it wouldn't have happened
I get the sentiment that choices were running a little thing but ..... | |
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| Cajuste on 10:21 - Nov 26 with 698 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
And he was our stand out midfielder in the prem last season....
It really is a mystery why we got relegated. |  |
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| Cajuste on 10:23 - Nov 26 with 665 views | LankHenners |
| Cajuste on 10:13 - Nov 26 by portmanking |
Sorry, but Jack absolutely ran the midfield for most of last night's second half. More legs, tenacity and composure, although Matusiwa's screening job is equally important. |
As was Nunez starting to get about a lot more and move the ball around quickly. As a team we stepped it up in the 2nd half and got the rewards.
He played well but this is exactly what I'm talking about - 'absolutely ran the midfield' is such ridiculous overpraise for what actually happened and who else we have to thank for turning the game around. Towards the end he lost possession in our half and when going to recover it got knocked off so tamely he faceplanted on the grass which is the sort of thing we get about 5 threads slagging Cajuste off for on here.
Said last night if people want to pin any one player down for coming on and changing the game it's very obviously Jaden Philogene but I suppose, despite his wonder goals, is still partly in 'boo boy' territory with some. | |
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| Cajuste on 10:28 - Nov 26 with 608 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Cajuste on 10:15 - Nov 26 by FrimleyBlue |
I just think with jens, its a case of neither club nor player actually wanted the move to happen but both had little option once other options didn't come off. totally an opinion. but i just don't see how we or jens really wanted to be here when his move took so long to actually happen with very little reason for it to take so long and us clearly not getting our first targets |
Certainly cuts the figure of someone who doesn't want or expect to be playing Championship football at this stage of his career. Its an easy solve though, McKenna has clearly seen it and seen a lot more in Taylor, hence he's playing more regularly at the moment. | | | |
| Cajuste on 10:31 - Nov 26 with 574 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Cajuste on 10:21 - Nov 26 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
And he was our stand out midfielder in the prem last season....
It really is a mystery why we got relegated. |
The mental side of it shouldn't be underestimated. There's no doubt in my mind Cajuste is a talented player, but some will find it much easier to get themselves up for Man United on Super Sunday vs. Hull away on a Tuesday night. | | | |
| Cajuste on 10:35 - Nov 26 with 550 views | Bluemike31 |
Our team is powder puff with him in it, never really got the love in for him in the first place, I certainly don't wish him injury but it could be a blessing atm. | | | |
| Cajuste on 10:36 - Nov 26 with 524 views | Bluemike31 |
| Cajuste on 09:51 - Nov 26 by BseaBlue |
My heart says I hope we follow our mantra of going back in for long-term targets and sign Hackney in Jan. My head says he will be off to Wolves. |
I don't think Hackney will choose Wolves and a certain relegation back to the Championship. | | | |
| Cajuste on 10:47 - Nov 26 with 450 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Cajuste on 10:19 - Nov 26 by Metal_Hacker |
I'm sure if the club didn't want it to happen Frimmers then it wouldn't have happened
I get the sentiment that choices were running a little thing but ..... |
Quite, sorry just meant he wasn't high up on the list. | |
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| Cajuste on 10:49 - Nov 26 with 429 views | HighgateBlue |
| Cajuste on 09:51 - Nov 26 by BseaBlue |
My heart says I hope we follow our mantra of going back in for long-term targets and sign Hackney in Jan. My head says he will be off to Wolves. |
I tend to agree with both your head and heart.
i can't recall whether Cajuste's loan had a compulsory purchase clause in the event of promotion, but at present I don't think he's the answer in the PL, should we get there. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 10:50 - Nov 26 with 414 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Cajuste on 10:36 - Nov 26 by Bluemike31 |
I don't think Hackney will choose Wolves and a certain relegation back to the Championship. |
I don't either. Not sure it'll be an either / or between us and Wolves either. It wouldn't surprise me if there's other interest from the Premier League, I can see Sunderland being interested but I'm not sure if he could or would make that switch. | | | |
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