| Tackling/Ball protection 12:19 - Nov 26 with 1111 views | SaleAway |
Something that occurred to me last night, whilst watching live, was that other than Matusiwa, we very rarely win duels, either with the front men protecting the ball, or trying to win the ball back in midfield. I think if we want to really progress this season, and then compete in the premier league, we're going to have to find a way to be better, whether it is becoming physically stronger, or just smarter in the way we play. ( or probably both, depending on what league we are in!)
I do wonder if there is a hangover from the prem in the way that we play, i.e. that when we went up, we found that there was less physicality in the challenge allowed ( with players going down easily), so now our players are going down when challenged, or not going hard enough without the ball. The amount of times last night that our player was on the ground, and no free kick was forthcoming was unreal. And from my point of view the ref got most of them right, we generally go down way too easily. |  |
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| Tackling/Ball protection on 17:52 - Nov 26 with 805 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
That is surely one of the results of being a high possession team? If we have the ball the majority of the time, we have less opportunity to tackle someone? | | | |
| Tackling/Ball protection on 18:03 - Nov 26 with 787 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Tackling/Ball protection on 17:52 - Nov 26 by SuffolkPunchFC |
That is surely one of the results of being a high possession team? If we have the ball the majority of the time, we have less opportunity to tackle someone? |
You would have thought so. We also have a reasonably high rate of intercepting opposition passes, so our again that reduces the need for tackles/challenges. |  |
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| Tackling/Ball protection on 18:08 - Nov 26 with 775 views | FrimleyBlue |
It's interesting you mention that, I had a brief chat about this a few weeks ago about how this season we don't tend to win as much of the ball in the opponents half, yet as far as im aware in the 23/24 season we were the best in the league at winning the ball back in high up the pitch
It could simply be that KM is trying to get the basics sorted first and as this develops we may see a bit more of a high pressing game up the pitch ? |  |
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| Tackling/Ball protection on 21:40 - Nov 26 with 631 views | Facefacts |
Very insightful post, thanks. |  | | |
| Tackling/Ball protection on 21:44 - Nov 26 with 621 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Not something I have particularly studied, but I get the feeling it is something Egeli is good at from what I have seen of him. |  |
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| Tackling/Ball protection on 21:50 - Nov 26 with 603 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Tackling/Ball protection on 18:08 - Nov 26 by FrimleyBlue |
It's interesting you mention that, I had a brief chat about this a few weeks ago about how this season we don't tend to win as much of the ball in the opponents half, yet as far as im aware in the 23/24 season we were the best in the league at winning the ball back in high up the pitch
It could simply be that KM is trying to get the basics sorted first and as this develops we may see a bit more of a high pressing game up the pitch ? |
In 23/24, we were 3rd for tackles in the attacking 3rd after Leeds and Southampton. This season we’re 17th. Again, that tells us nothing we can’t see. It’s been very noticeable that our press is less aggressive. We’re happier to drop off into our defensive shape.
I think that’s a fairly common trend. The game’s noticeably changed in the last couple of years. Teams are quicker to go long now to beat the press, effectively blunting the press and putting the pressing team on the back foot (logical really, as the press was a response to teams wanting to control play from the back). Not many manager’s are stuck with the ‘play it out from the back at all costs’ mentality, which is why Martin died on his arse at Rangers because that’s all he can do.
Interesting stuff. I wish I knew more about tactics. | |
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| Tackling/Ball protection on 22:04 - Nov 26 with 549 views | Vic |
If you’re right then it’s a bit of an odd thing - because I thought this team was built in response to the realisation that we need to be physically bigger and stronger. |  |
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| According to the stats we are low in ground duels, second on aerial duels on 11:57 - Nov 27 with 289 views | unstableblue |
We’re near the bottom on ground duels…
Second on aerial with 55.4% because frankly OShea and Kipre (and Greaves) have been good bar some errors
But we’re poor on ground duels… 49.2%… which is remarkable given how good Matusiwa has been. But then Cajuste has been really poor [Post edited 27 Nov 12:00]
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| According to the stats we are low in ground duels, second on aerial duels on 13:43 - Nov 27 with 197 views | SaleAway |
| According to the stats we are low in ground duels, second on aerial duels on 11:57 - Nov 27 by unstableblue |
We’re near the bottom on ground duels…
Second on aerial with 55.4% because frankly OShea and Kipre (and Greaves) have been good bar some errors
But we’re poor on ground duels… 49.2%… which is remarkable given how good Matusiwa has been. But then Cajuste has been really poor [Post edited 27 Nov 12:00]
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Yeah, it was ground duels that I noticed. Will keep an eye as the season progresses. Wonder if we will improve as the players get used to the levels of physicality allowed. | |
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| According to the stats we are low in ground duels, second on aerial duels on 13:47 - Nov 27 with 179 views | unstableblue |
| According to the stats we are low in ground duels, second on aerial duels on 13:43 - Nov 27 by SaleAway |
Yeah, it was ground duels that I noticed. Will keep an eye as the season progresses. Wonder if we will improve as the players get used to the levels of physicality allowed. |
I think Taylor will improve the ground duels stats over Cajuste
But I’m really not sure Nunez, McAteer and Egeli will… and maybe that’s OK
Philogene, and normally Clarke seem to retain the ball well in 1 on 1s.
Out patterns are still not right at present and this is also a factor | |
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