| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever 12:40 - Dec 4 with 1833 views | Chris_ITFC |
You’ll never sing that.
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:50 - Dec 4 with 1639 views | chicoazul |
How can this parochial weird conservative little football club with few fans (many of whom are odd) very little recent success in the middle of nowhere possibly be worth 350m. I truly have no idea how this is even possible.
None of that is meant in any way as a criticism by the way, indeed the opposite. |  |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:55 - Dec 4 with 1602 views | PhilTWTD |
That figure was taken from Brett Johnson's email in the summer. I gather the deal just done is worth a fair bit more than that. The potential valuation of £1bn is viewed as realistic in years to come. |  | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:58 - Dec 4 with 1538 views | Illinoisblue |
Does anyone have a list or nice visual of which investors own which percentage of the club? |  |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 13:22 - Dec 4 with 1408 views | VanDusen |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:50 - Dec 4 by chicoazul |
How can this parochial weird conservative little football club with few fans (many of whom are odd) very little recent success in the middle of nowhere possibly be worth 350m. I truly have no idea how this is even possible.
None of that is meant in any way as a criticism by the way, indeed the opposite. |
"Many of whom are odd" ;o)
That's part of the beauty of being an Ipswich Town fan. We're not as loudmouth as the city clubs but we've just as much passion. |  | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 13:30 - Dec 4 with 1365 views | Guthrum |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:50 - Dec 4 by chicoazul |
How can this parochial weird conservative little football club with few fans (many of whom are odd) very little recent success in the middle of nowhere possibly be worth 350m. I truly have no idea how this is even possible.
None of that is meant in any way as a criticism by the way, indeed the opposite. |
Football club valuation is generally a bizarre thing (given lack of profits, levels of debt and uncertainty of success).
I suppose we simply are in the hands of a bunch of people who see worth in having a foothold in the English game - and some property development potential in and around Portman Rd. Plus the original bunch bought relatively cheap at the right time and have got the right people in to add value (even if we don't go back up this May). |  |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 13:41 - Dec 4 with 1272 views | giant_stow |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:55 - Dec 4 by PhilTWTD |
That figure was taken from Brett Johnson's email in the summer. I gather the deal just done is worth a fair bit more than that. The potential valuation of £1bn is viewed as realistic in years to come. |
[splutterwhat?!!!] |  |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 13:41 - Dec 4 with 1265 views | baxterbasics |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 13:30 - Dec 4 by Guthrum |
Football club valuation is generally a bizarre thing (given lack of profits, levels of debt and uncertainty of success).
I suppose we simply are in the hands of a bunch of people who see worth in having a foothold in the English game - and some property development potential in and around Portman Rd. Plus the original bunch bought relatively cheap at the right time and have got the right people in to add value (even if we don't go back up this May). |
This is why I don't agree with "the owners can't be happy, they wont put up with this much longer" which I read here whenever there's a dodgy result.
I'm sure they are quite happy that they've effectively added a zero to their initial investment. |  |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:01 - Dec 4 with 1146 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:55 - Dec 4 by PhilTWTD |
That figure was taken from Brett Johnson's email in the summer. I gather the deal just done is worth a fair bit more than that. The potential valuation of £1bn is viewed as realistic in years to come. |
And yet some people still question the ambition of the club/owners.
This is nice conformation that we're seen as a long term project, and the odd 'blip' in our progress isn't undermining that ambition (even if the blip is a season or two). It's about the journey to 2031/32.
This will be uncomfortable for those expecting instant gratification (and of course we'd all like higher success on the field right now), but like any sustainable business, the ownership appear committed to building the framework for our long-term future, and success. I'm bought into this strategy - hopefully more will get on board  | | | |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:10 - Dec 4 with 1070 views | bazza |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:55 - Dec 4 by PhilTWTD |
That figure was taken from Brett Johnson's email in the summer. I gather the deal just done is worth a fair bit more than that. The potential valuation of £1bn is viewed as realistic in years to come. |
You could buy the whole of Ipswich for less than that. |  | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:14 - Dec 4 with 1041 views | Metal_Hacker |
Blimey ....anyone wanna go halves on buying Wednesday and we'll just sell up in 3 years time ? |  |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:18 - Dec 4 with 1005 views | ArnieM |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:55 - Dec 4 by PhilTWTD |
That figure was taken from Brett Johnson's email in the summer. I gather the deal just done is worth a fair bit more than that. The potential valuation of £1bn is viewed as realistic in years to come. |
So, what's the plan then ? To get us to a certain financial state then sell on a vast profit, or continue to run it as a football club first and foremost and establish ourseleves as a truly medium to (small) largish PL club? What actually makes a club "large" anyway ? Im mean what do the owners perceive to be our achievable ceiling both as a football club and say stock market value, if ever floated? |  |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:20 - Dec 4 with 991 views | PhilTWTD |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 13:41 - Dec 4 by giant_stow |
[splutterwhat?!!!] |
It's all to do with media revenues ultimately, the expectation that the increased competition from streaming services will continue to push values higher. Obviously that involves spending most of the time in the Premier League. | | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:25 - Dec 4 with 950 views | PhilTWTD |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:18 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
So, what's the plan then ? To get us to a certain financial state then sell on a vast profit, or continue to run it as a football club first and foremost and establish ourseleves as a truly medium to (small) largish PL club? What actually makes a club "large" anyway ? Im mean what do the owners perceive to be our achievable ceiling both as a football club and say stock market value, if ever floated? |
Well, £1bn is the figure that's being looked at as a potential value. Not sure what happens if and when they get there. Bits will probably be sold off here and there anyway.
Despite the increased Clara Vista stake, the feeling seems to be its very much business as usual, continuing on the same path. The pension fund have obviously done very well out of the value they have received up to now, probably three times or so what they've put in, I would guess, although not done the precise sums. They've maintained their still significant stake as they see the valuation predictions as realistic going forward. | | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:28 - Dec 4 with 930 views | PhilTWTD |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 12:58 - Dec 4 by Illinoisblue |
Does anyone have a list or nice visual of which investors own which percentage of the club? |
Not a nice visual but some of the percentages in the story I wrote yesterday.
 Town Announce Change to Ownership Structure 3rd Dec 2025 16:01Town have announced a change to their ownership structure with PSPRS, the Arizona pension fund which has been the majority shareholder since the Gamechanger 20 takeover in 2021, diluting its investment and the Three Lions, also involved in that takeover, and Clara Vista Partners, who were part of the £115 million Bright Path Partners investment last year, increasing their stakes.  43
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:29 - Dec 4 with 924 views | PhilTWTD |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 13:30 - Dec 4 by Guthrum |
Football club valuation is generally a bizarre thing (given lack of profits, levels of debt and uncertainty of success).
I suppose we simply are in the hands of a bunch of people who see worth in having a foothold in the English game - and some property development potential in and around Portman Rd. Plus the original bunch bought relatively cheap at the right time and have got the right people in to add value (even if we don't go back up this May). |
One of Marcus Evans's accounts people who wasn't a football fan said the difference between running a football club and other businesses was that you usually made profits in most other businesses. | | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:29 - Dec 4 with 918 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:18 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
So, what's the plan then ? To get us to a certain financial state then sell on a vast profit, or continue to run it as a football club first and foremost and establish ourseleves as a truly medium to (small) largish PL club? What actually makes a club "large" anyway ? Im mean what do the owners perceive to be our achievable ceiling both as a football club and say stock market value, if ever floated? |
The owners/club have been pretty open about this (although you have to piece it together to some extent).
Only the owners will know precisely how it is intended to work for them, but this is how I've pieced it together. The goal would seem to be to establish ourselves as a successful PL club by ~2031/32, elevating the club to be a global footballing brand, which can be leveraged for a variety of commercial activities that generate value for the owners, and funds to fuel the development of the team. | | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:30 - Dec 4 with 905 views | PhilTWTD |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:29 - Dec 4 by SuffolkPunchFC |
The owners/club have been pretty open about this (although you have to piece it together to some extent).
Only the owners will know precisely how it is intended to work for them, but this is how I've pieced it together. The goal would seem to be to establish ourselves as a successful PL club by ~2031/32, elevating the club to be a global footballing brand, which can be leveraged for a variety of commercial activities that generate value for the owners, and funds to fuel the development of the team. |
Indeed, I think building us up to being an established Premier League club with the facilities and assets which come alongside that is the aim. | | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 15:15 - Dec 4 with 651 views | Illinoisblue |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:28 - Dec 4 by PhilTWTD |
Not a nice visual but some of the percentages in the story I wrote yesterday.
Town Announce Change to Ownership Structure 3rd Dec 2025 16:01Town have announced a change to their ownership structure with PSPRS, the Arizona pension fund which has been the majority shareholder since the Gamechanger 20 takeover in 2021, diluting its investment and the Three Lions, also involved in that takeover, and Clara Vista Partners, who were part of the £115 million Bright Path Partners investment last year, increasing their stakes. 43
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Thanks. The Clara Vista site is interesting; Ipswich the focus but plans to invest in a La Liga club. Possible deals/partnerships between the two clubs (although isn’t multi ownership model subject to scrutiny… Palace, Forest etc)?
They make clear that football clubs can cost a fraction of what is paid for U.S. sports ‘franchises’. Half a billion for an MLS team makes us look a great deal! | |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 15:25 - Dec 4 with 580 views | Alberto_the_frog |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:14 - Dec 4 by Metal_Hacker |
Blimey ....anyone wanna go halves on buying Wednesday and we'll just sell up in 3 years time ? |
I haven't got 30p to spare |  | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 15:25 - Dec 4 with 574 views | Alberto_the_frog |
Well, it doesn't really scan TBF | | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 15:28 - Dec 4 with 556 views | PhilTWTD |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 15:15 - Dec 4 by Illinoisblue |
Thanks. The Clara Vista site is interesting; Ipswich the focus but plans to invest in a La Liga club. Possible deals/partnerships between the two clubs (although isn’t multi ownership model subject to scrutiny… Palace, Forest etc)?
They make clear that football clubs can cost a fraction of what is paid for U.S. sports ‘franchises’. Half a billion for an MLS team makes us look a great deal! |
I gather there was a specific La Liga team they were interested in but that's not happening for whatever reason, but they're looking for an alternative. | | | |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 16:03 - Dec 4 with 361 views | DJR |
The following show the top 24 football teams in terms of valuations.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinteitelbaum/2025/05/30/the-worlds-most-valuabl
Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich (at first, third and sixth) are all owned by club members.
In many ways that is quite quaint but is obviously not the way English football has gone. [Post edited 4 Dec 16:24]
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 16:26 - Dec 4 with 227 views | ArnieM |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:25 - Dec 4 by PhilTWTD |
Well, £1bn is the figure that's being looked at as a potential value. Not sure what happens if and when they get there. Bits will probably be sold off here and there anyway.
Despite the increased Clara Vista stake, the feeling seems to be its very much business as usual, continuing on the same path. The pension fund have obviously done very well out of the value they have received up to now, probably three times or so what they've put in, I would guess, although not done the precise sums. They've maintained their still significant stake as they see the valuation predictions as realistic going forward. |
Good news by and large then
It can be a be very when the talk is all about finances snd not gootball. But that's the world we live in niw I guess. Even if Town fo reach the heady heights of £1bn value, my thoughts are " so what"?
I.know notjing of finances in the gsme so this valuation of the club is only important surely for those that own the club, and would only get benefit from thst investment when they sell on their shares to someone else. Does being worth £1bn mean we'd be more likely to sign world class players? As for us mere fans.... it means little really doesnt it. | |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 16:29 - Dec 4 with 222 views | Radlett_blue |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 14:30 - Dec 4 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, I think building us up to being an established Premier League club with the facilities and assets which come alongside that is the aim. |
Yes, but getting to - and staying in - the PL is very difficult. The £350m value put on Town by the recent transaction reflects a lot of hope that this will be achieved. I'm not surprised that the Arizona Pension fund are scaling back - they will have done spectacularly well from their risk capital investment.
Town are probably better off being owned by a US consortium rather than one rich, mad investor (see Marcus Evans & too many others to mention) but it will be interesting to see how the owners feel if we fail to get promoted this season. My guess is that Ashton will shift all the blame onto McKenna & the latter will be fired. |  |
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| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 16:36 - Dec 4 with 184 views | TNBlue |
| Most Valuable Championship Club Ever on 16:29 - Dec 4 by Radlett_blue |
Yes, but getting to - and staying in - the PL is very difficult. The £350m value put on Town by the recent transaction reflects a lot of hope that this will be achieved. I'm not surprised that the Arizona Pension fund are scaling back - they will have done spectacularly well from their risk capital investment.
Town are probably better off being owned by a US consortium rather than one rich, mad investor (see Marcus Evans & too many others to mention) but it will be interesting to see how the owners feel if we fail to get promoted this season. My guess is that Ashton will shift all the blame onto McKenna & the latter will be fired. |
Well I think its right McKenna takes the can if someone is going to be fired. Hes been given the backing financially to put together a promotion winning team. If we fall short, its on him. | | | |
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