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Our NHS 21:16 - Dec 16 with 1871 viewsTresBonne

Isn't it just bloody brilliant, despite what they want you to believe. You never truly appreciate it until you need it.

Rung hoping for a GP appt at 11:00am today. By 12, they phoned back and I had one at 4:10pm the very same day. Went in and saw one of the most friendly, welcoming doctors I've ever had. Booked in for bloods at 11:50 tomorrow, results back by Friday.

All of that on top of the superflu + Christmas period. For free. We are so lucky to have them.
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The staff…. on 09:18 - Dec 17 with 397 viewsBloots

….particularly the “frontline” workers are on the whole decent, but in reality they should be, it is their job after all and despite the misty eyed admiration they are getting paid for it. I’ve come into contact with some exceptional staff over the years.

This said my old man has regular, quite serious, treatment which started in an an NHS facility a number of years ago and has since been outsourced to a local private clinic. The improvement in service, attitude and dare I say it outcome is immeasurable.

And to add, the ongoing “joke” about miserable and unhelpful doctor surgery receptionists is totally justified round our way. They are awful in my surgery.

In general NHS “systems”, “processes” and “management” are letting down what is in principle a national treasure.

(and the Doctors going on strike at the current time is a disgrace)

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Our NHS on 09:28 - Dec 17 with 354 viewsDJR

Our NHS on 08:32 - Dec 17 by BanksterDebtSlave

According to Junior, nurses earn more per hour working for an agency, and obviously the agency take their cut too, rather than being directly employed by the NHS. For the first time in forever the NHS authority where she studies are not guaranteeing employment for graduate mental health nurses either despite surging demand.

Edit....this notion that the way to fix the NHS is to allow private companies to syphon off even more of the money would suggest we have learnt nothing from the fate of our crumbling utilities.
[Post edited 17 Dec 8:36]


That's a real shame for your daughter and her fellow students but I suppose only to be expected of an area which is greatly underfunded.

I say this at a time when the daughter of a friend of mine who has been sectioned is currently in the local hospital under guard awaiting a bed becoming available in a unit where she should be treated.

EDIT: I forgot to say that she has been sectioned four times in the last year but these days sectioning only involves a few weeks on a specialised mental health ward before discharge because of lack of capacity.
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Our NHS on 11:15 - Dec 17 with 301 viewspositivity

Our NHS on 08:49 - Dec 17 by homer_123

It's already privatised GB, for all intense and purposes.


which is a massive part of the problem, different departments and providers not working seamlessly.

it needs properly nationalising, but no government would have the guts unfortunately

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Our NHS on 11:28 - Dec 17 with 275 viewsghostofescobar

Minor point, but GP’s aren’t actually the NHS. They are independent contractors, but they are funded by the NHS. And, agree, for the major stuff, the NHS are amazing. My son nearly died due to an accident in the summer, suffered a severe brain injury, but the care he received was exceptional.

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Our NHS on 12:30 - Dec 17 with 238 viewsPinewoodblue

Our NHS on 11:28 - Dec 17 by ghostofescobar

Minor point, but GP’s aren’t actually the NHS. They are independent contractors, but they are funded by the NHS. And, agree, for the major stuff, the NHS are amazing. My son nearly died due to an accident in the summer, suffered a severe brain injury, but the care he received was exceptional.


I asked Google AI to explain the funding of GP Practices.

This is just the last part of the response.

How it Works
NHS England: sets the national contract and funding levels.
Integrated Care Boards (ICBs): commission services from local practices.
Practices: receive monthly payments based on their weighted patient list and performance.
GP Partners: then manage this income to cover all practice expenses, with profits distributed to partners.

Those last five words being important.

They have other sources of income Recently had to pay over £50 for a signature on an insurance claim form for cancelled holiday. To answer just a handful of questions.

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Our NHS on 12:33 - Dec 17 with 231 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Our NHS on 12:30 - Dec 17 by Pinewoodblue

I asked Google AI to explain the funding of GP Practices.

This is just the last part of the response.

How it Works
NHS England: sets the national contract and funding levels.
Integrated Care Boards (ICBs): commission services from local practices.
Practices: receive monthly payments based on their weighted patient list and performance.
GP Partners: then manage this income to cover all practice expenses, with profits distributed to partners.

Those last five words being important.

They have other sources of income Recently had to pay over £50 for a signature on an insurance claim form for cancelled holiday. To answer just a handful of questions.


So with this setup I wonder if GP’s are even paying PAYE rates of tax..?
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Our NHS on 13:03 - Dec 17 with 193 viewslowhouseblue

my elderly mum went into an essex hospital during winter 3 years ago - there was a flu crisis at the time. she had an undiagnosed infection and delirium. she spent 36 hours on a trolley in a corridor and then another 36 hours in an a&e overspill area and was then moved to a temporary 'ward'. witnessing all of that the levels of incompetence and waste were astonishing - i say that as a life long supporter of the nhs and acknowledging the flu crisis it was facing. 2 examples - one the a&e nurses wouldn't care for people in corridors - so the ambulance crew that delivered a patient had to stay with them until they were moved into a&e. this meant that successive crews arrived and took over as the previous ones went off shift - their ambulances parked up outside a&e. at one point i counted 8 ambulance crews in the corridor. second, while we were there a very elderly patient was brought in by care home staff and went through the corridor and finally into a&e - the reason for his visit was the need for a repeat prescription and since they couldn't get a gp to issue one that was the only route open to them. over all the experience was described by my sister, someone who has been extremely senior in health, as akin to a war zone.
i find it astonishing that we are all happy to talk endlessly about failures in the private sector but as a matter of principle refuse to acknowledge that failures in public organisations are just as serious. there is nothing in making something public that automatically makes failures disappear.
having experienced a hospital in collapse during that previous flu crisis, i am genuinely shocked that junior doctors are prepared to strike during this flu crisis.
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And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Our NHS on 13:06 - Dec 17 with 184 viewsPinewoodblue

Our NHS on 12:33 - Dec 17 by SuperKieranMcKenna

So with this setup I wonder if GP’s are even paying PAYE rates of tax..?


Not every GP will be a partner, but a good question to which I don’t know the answer.

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Our NHS on 14:46 - Dec 17 with 105 viewsFreddies_Ears

Our NHS on 23:08 - Dec 16 by Freddies_Ears

I gave up on my surgery after an unqualified doc prescribed lifetime meds for a condition I didn't have (it turned out), and shouldn't have taken at all given my symptoms. Luckily, I am able to use Google, and checked out my doubts. Some hours after leaving the surgery, I received a panicked call, telling me not to take what they had prescribed.

I gave up on Ipswich hospital a few years ago after a litany of linked errors left me with a huge infection after what should have been a minor, routine cancer op turned into a big procedure due to delays. The aftercare was even worse. I took my recovery private. The long version of this story is not one I'd tell on here, as it is quite an unpleasant tale; I owe my life to being able to afford a few £k.


I am just back from visiting a very close relative who is sadly in his last days, or maybe hours, now in an NHS hospital. Overall, his care seems OK, but, in transferring him from one ward to another, they managed to lose his false teeth, so he can no longer speak intelligibly to visitors. OK, so it's not the biggest thing, but it feels like a denial of dignity, and it has made an upsetting time even worse.
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Our NHS on 15:06 - Dec 17 with 85 viewspositivity

Our NHS on 12:33 - Dec 17 by SuperKieranMcKenna

So with this setup I wonder if GP’s are even paying PAYE rates of tax..?


all the ones i know are.

i guess as with any well-paid or self-employed individual, the minority will look at tax avoidance

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Our NHS on 15:18 - Dec 17 with 63 viewsRadlett_blue

Our NHS on 22:31 - Dec 16 by GlasgowBlue

They differ because rather being employed by the NHS, surgeries are independent business that are contracted to the NHS. They are responsible fr their own finances. Some are owned and run by GP partners but more and more are being bought out by larger corporations.

My local surgery has been a partnership for as long as I was using it. Never had an issue getting an appointment but started struggling post covid and you had to phone a week in advance to be seen. They were recently taken over by a corporation and we can now get appointments much as it was before Covid.


Well, mine is run by some of the GPs who are partners & service standards are awful. The worst of the doctors replaced my long standing GP who had retired; everyone tried to avoid an appointment with her, but unfortunately she's married to the managing partner.

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Our NHS on 16:53 - Dec 17 with 3 viewsBlueForYou

Both my wife & myself have received excellent service by our local NHS recently. Our surgery is very good now having changed earlier this year & the hospital were faultless in everything. Very joined up service & good professional people. We were impressed & quite reassured after all the nonsense you read about, including on here!
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