| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present 08:21 - Dec 29 with 2941 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:24 - Dec 29 with 1963 views | Herbivore |
If Farage is consistent I'm sure he'll say that as this happened many years ago and was probably just "banter' then it's a non-issue and all political.
Of course in reality those comments are awful and politicians should be a lot more careful about offering public support to individuals without doing due diligence on their background. Starmer and Labour just can't get anything right, sadly. |  |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:27 - Dec 29 with 1936 views | gtsb1966 |
Starmer is a dreadful prime minister....and I voted Labour. One of the worst prime minister in my lifetime and bearing in mind im nearly 60 there have been a few. If he hasn't gone by this time next year Labour are getting wiped out at the next election. |  | | |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:37 - Dec 29 with 1871 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:27 - Dec 29 by gtsb1966 |
Starmer is a dreadful prime minister....and I voted Labour. One of the worst prime minister in my lifetime and bearing in mind im nearly 60 there have been a few. If he hasn't gone by this time next year Labour are getting wiped out at the next election. |
He's crap but he's probably less bad than his immediate three predecessors, who saw it as their job to systematically destroy the country. Given the damage Cameron did to the country too I'd say he's worse. So that's four worse in the last 15 years by my reckoning. That's not to say he's not crap, he's pretty hopeless, but others have done far, far more damage than him. We're in a run of PMs a bit like when Town has the four Pauls and Keane in a relatively short space of time, each trying to outdo the last in their lack of competence. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:42 - Dec 29 with 1817 views | NthQldITFC |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:37 - Dec 29 by Herbivore |
He's crap but he's probably less bad than his immediate three predecessors, who saw it as their job to systematically destroy the country. Given the damage Cameron did to the country too I'd say he's worse. So that's four worse in the last 15 years by my reckoning. That's not to say he's not crap, he's pretty hopeless, but others have done far, far more damage than him. We're in a run of PMs a bit like when Town has the four Pauls and Keane in a relatively short space of time, each trying to outdo the last in their lack of competence. |
Excellent - does that mean we'll get Super Zack Polanski next?
He's knows exactly what we need. |  |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:44 - Dec 29 with 1799 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:42 - Dec 29 by NthQldITFC |
Excellent - does that mean we'll get Super Zack Polanski next?
He's knows exactly what we need. |
Re-nationalisation at the back, tackling climate change in attack. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:53 - Dec 29 with 1734 views | NthQldITFC |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:44 - Dec 29 by Herbivore |
Re-nationalisation at the back, tackling climate change in attack. |
♫ A country rejuvenated with social and environmental responsibility ♫ | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:54 - Dec 29 with 1729 views | Ftnfwest |
Well he’s managed to look pretty incompetent over it all but the thing that sticks with me more is the ridiculous intervention by the ‘luvvies’ |  | | |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:04 - Dec 29 with 1673 views | LeoMuff |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:27 - Dec 29 by gtsb1966 |
Starmer is a dreadful prime minister....and I voted Labour. One of the worst prime minister in my lifetime and bearing in mind im nearly 60 there have been a few. If he hasn't gone by this time next year Labour are getting wiped out at the next election. |
Assuming you aren’t 5 years old there has been 2 who are head and shoulders worse Boris and Truss were literally criminal |  |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:22 - Dec 29 with 1580 views | Dubtractor |
I thought Farage was in favour of giving a platform to those who make unpleasant tweets? |  |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:24 - Dec 29 with 1580 views | DJR |
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/28/successive-uk-governments-face-q
It doesn't sound like either of the two main political parties have covered themselves in glory on this, which is rather surprising given the first paragraph below.
"The posts cost him a nomination for the European parliament’s Sakharov prize in 2014. The group backing him withdrew their nomination for the human rights award, saying they had discovered a tweet from 2012 in which he called for the murder of Israelis.
In 2015, Abd el-Fattah claimed his comments had been taken out of context, and that while it had seemed “shocking”, it had been part of a “private conversation” that took place during an Israeli offensive in Gaza.
The decision to grant citizenship [in 2021] would have been made by the Home Office, which at that point was led by Priti Patel, advised by the Foreign Office, where Liz Truss was foreign secretary and James Cleverly was the minister for the region.
Successive Tory prime ministers have also called for Abd el-Fattah, to be released and reunited with his family, including Rishi Sunak who said it was “a priority” for his government in November 2022.
When Labour came to power, Starmer continued lobbying the Egyptian president over Abd el-Fattah, ongoing imprisonment, making three calls to his Egyptian counterpart, while the UK national security adviser, Jonathan Powell, also personally urged the Egyptians to end the detention." [Post edited 29 Dec 9:27]
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:38 - Dec 29 with 1513 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:24 - Dec 29 by Herbivore |
If Farage is consistent I'm sure he'll say that as this happened many years ago and was probably just "banter' then it's a non-issue and all political.
Of course in reality those comments are awful and politicians should be a lot more careful about offering public support to individuals without doing due diligence on their background. Starmer and Labour just can't get anything right, sadly. |
It beggars belief that it's taken most people 5 minutes to find out that he wants to :
Kill the children and torture the mothers of British police officers
Kill a senior official
Finds killing "colonialists" and "specifically Zionists" heroic
Believes that Police officers aren't human and he wants to kill them all
Supports the random shooting of white males
Admits to being a racist who hates white people
Calls British people dogs and monkeys
Wants to send in drones to Jewish weddings
Admits to being a violent person who wants to kill all Zionists
Supports the killing of Israeli athletes
Believes that violence is acceptable and that the extermination of whites is desirable
Seriously, seriously hates white people, particularly those of British, Dutch and German descent
Bemoaned the fact that Iran's nuclear programme isn't dedicated to the eradication of the white man
Denied that the Holocaust was a genocide as there are still Jewish people left alive
Believes it's a good thing white people aren't breeding
Wants to burn down Downing Street and hunt Police
I've probably left a few choice quotes out but one would hope that the Prime Minister and his Tory predecessors would have done due dillegence on this nasty fellow. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:44 - Dec 29 with 1472 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:54 - Dec 29 by Ftnfwest |
Well he’s managed to look pretty incompetent over it all but the thing that sticks with me more is the ridiculous intervention by the ‘luvvies’ |
I can understand the 'luvies" getting involved because they are usually closeted glory seeking tossers following the latest celeb-cause. But MPs should know better and have the tools to do better research. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:51 - Dec 29 with 1424 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:24 - Dec 29 by DJR |
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/28/successive-uk-governments-face-q
It doesn't sound like either of the two main political parties have covered themselves in glory on this, which is rather surprising given the first paragraph below.
"The posts cost him a nomination for the European parliament’s Sakharov prize in 2014. The group backing him withdrew their nomination for the human rights award, saying they had discovered a tweet from 2012 in which he called for the murder of Israelis.
In 2015, Abd el-Fattah claimed his comments had been taken out of context, and that while it had seemed “shocking”, it had been part of a “private conversation” that took place during an Israeli offensive in Gaza.
The decision to grant citizenship [in 2021] would have been made by the Home Office, which at that point was led by Priti Patel, advised by the Foreign Office, where Liz Truss was foreign secretary and James Cleverly was the minister for the region.
Successive Tory prime ministers have also called for Abd el-Fattah, to be released and reunited with his family, including Rishi Sunak who said it was “a priority” for his government in November 2022.
When Labour came to power, Starmer continued lobbying the Egyptian president over Abd el-Fattah, ongoing imprisonment, making three calls to his Egyptian counterpart, while the UK national security adviser, Jonathan Powell, also personally urged the Egyptians to end the detention." [Post edited 29 Dec 9:27]
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A a “private conversation” on twitter is not private. And the quotes I posted are not from one single "conversation" or "out of context".
And even more laughable is that clip is now doing the rounds showing Starmer as leader of the opposition claiming that Alaa Abd El-Fattah was ‘imprisoned for his social media posts’. Call me naive for thinking that maybe Starmer should have read some of those social media posts or at least got his team of researchers to do so.. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:51 - Dec 29 with 1424 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:38 - Dec 29 by GlasgowBlue |
It beggars belief that it's taken most people 5 minutes to find out that he wants to :
Kill the children and torture the mothers of British police officers
Kill a senior official
Finds killing "colonialists" and "specifically Zionists" heroic
Believes that Police officers aren't human and he wants to kill them all
Supports the random shooting of white males
Admits to being a racist who hates white people
Calls British people dogs and monkeys
Wants to send in drones to Jewish weddings
Admits to being a violent person who wants to kill all Zionists
Supports the killing of Israeli athletes
Believes that violence is acceptable and that the extermination of whites is desirable
Seriously, seriously hates white people, particularly those of British, Dutch and German descent
Bemoaned the fact that Iran's nuclear programme isn't dedicated to the eradication of the white man
Denied that the Holocaust was a genocide as there are still Jewish people left alive
Believes it's a good thing white people aren't breeding
Wants to burn down Downing Street and hunt Police
I've probably left a few choice quotes out but one would hope that the Prime Minister and his Tory predecessors would have done due dillegence on this nasty fellow. |
It does make you wonder. Surely some staffer could have spent 5 minutes looking at his social media accounts before giving Starmer the okay to post that tweet? Some horrific views expressed there, reflects badly on the PM.
That said, I'm not sure Reform can claim much moral high ground here given their leader's views and when they've previously railed against people being punished for comments on social media, even when those comments have called for burning down hotels with people inside them at a time when there are riots going on and that kind of thing was actually very likely to happen. That they're now calling for deportation isn't going to look very credible and it seems highly unlikely to be legally feasible. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:53 - Dec 29 with 1403 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:24 - Dec 29 by DJR |
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/28/successive-uk-governments-face-q
It doesn't sound like either of the two main political parties have covered themselves in glory on this, which is rather surprising given the first paragraph below.
"The posts cost him a nomination for the European parliament’s Sakharov prize in 2014. The group backing him withdrew their nomination for the human rights award, saying they had discovered a tweet from 2012 in which he called for the murder of Israelis.
In 2015, Abd el-Fattah claimed his comments had been taken out of context, and that while it had seemed “shocking”, it had been part of a “private conversation” that took place during an Israeli offensive in Gaza.
The decision to grant citizenship [in 2021] would have been made by the Home Office, which at that point was led by Priti Patel, advised by the Foreign Office, where Liz Truss was foreign secretary and James Cleverly was the minister for the region.
Successive Tory prime ministers have also called for Abd el-Fattah, to be released and reunited with his family, including Rishi Sunak who said it was “a priority” for his government in November 2022.
When Labour came to power, Starmer continued lobbying the Egyptian president over Abd el-Fattah, ongoing imprisonment, making three calls to his Egyptian counterpart, while the UK national security adviser, Jonathan Powell, also personally urged the Egyptians to end the detention." [Post edited 29 Dec 9:27]
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So the Tories now calling for him to be deported on the basis of tweets they should have known about when they granted him citizenship looks like hollow politicking. Who'd have thunk it? | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:54 - Dec 29 with 1399 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:22 - Dec 29 by Dubtractor |
I thought Farage was in favour of giving a platform to those who make unpleasant tweets? |
Won't matter one jot to his supporters. All they will see is Starmer welcoming a terrorist supporter who wants to kill all of us and our families. The Jew hate won't be of particular concern to the average Farage fan. It's the eradication of white people which will stand out to them. [Post edited 29 Dec 9:55]
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:56 - Dec 29 with 1350 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:51 - Dec 29 by Herbivore |
It does make you wonder. Surely some staffer could have spent 5 minutes looking at his social media accounts before giving Starmer the okay to post that tweet? Some horrific views expressed there, reflects badly on the PM.
That said, I'm not sure Reform can claim much moral high ground here given their leader's views and when they've previously railed against people being punished for comments on social media, even when those comments have called for burning down hotels with people inside them at a time when there are riots going on and that kind of thing was actually very likely to happen. That they're now calling for deportation isn't going to look very credible and it seems highly unlikely to be legally feasible. |
Not just Starmer. It was a coordinated message from Starmer, Lammy and Cooper almost word for word.
Re your final para, I refer you to the answer I've just given to Dub. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 10:01 - Dec 29 with 1311 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:53 - Dec 29 by Herbivore |
So the Tories now calling for him to be deported on the basis of tweets they should have known about when they granted him citizenship looks like hollow politicking. Who'd have thunk it? |
He was backed by Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, IDS, James Cleverley etc. Jenrick, who is now calling for him to be deported, was immigration Minister when El-Fattah was given British citizenship. You couldn't make it up.
The Egyptian government now in the process of revoking his Egyptian citizenship and we are stuck with him. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 10:03 - Dec 29 with 1299 views | Dubtractor |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:54 - Dec 29 by GlasgowBlue |
Won't matter one jot to his supporters. All they will see is Starmer welcoming a terrorist supporter who wants to kill all of us and our families. The Jew hate won't be of particular concern to the average Farage fan. It's the eradication of white people which will stand out to them. [Post edited 29 Dec 9:55]
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Don't disagree with any of that, the hypocrisy is a bit nauseating though.
Whole thing is a massive mess though, from both the tories and labour. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 10:05 - Dec 29 with 1281 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 10:03 - Dec 29 by Dubtractor |
Don't disagree with any of that, the hypocrisy is a bit nauseating though.
Whole thing is a massive mess though, from both the tories and labour. |
Yeah but you're a decent person who can see through Farage, | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 10:05 - Dec 29 with 1275 views | Benters |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 08:27 - Dec 29 by gtsb1966 |
Starmer is a dreadful prime minister....and I voted Labour. One of the worst prime minister in my lifetime and bearing in mind im nearly 60 there have been a few. If he hasn't gone by this time next year Labour are getting wiped out at the next election. |
Fingers crossed on both counts.🤞 |  |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 10:24 - Dec 29 with 1172 views | DJR |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 09:38 - Dec 29 by GlasgowBlue |
It beggars belief that it's taken most people 5 minutes to find out that he wants to :
Kill the children and torture the mothers of British police officers
Kill a senior official
Finds killing "colonialists" and "specifically Zionists" heroic
Believes that Police officers aren't human and he wants to kill them all
Supports the random shooting of white males
Admits to being a racist who hates white people
Calls British people dogs and monkeys
Wants to send in drones to Jewish weddings
Admits to being a violent person who wants to kill all Zionists
Supports the killing of Israeli athletes
Believes that violence is acceptable and that the extermination of whites is desirable
Seriously, seriously hates white people, particularly those of British, Dutch and German descent
Bemoaned the fact that Iran's nuclear programme isn't dedicated to the eradication of the white man
Denied that the Holocaust was a genocide as there are still Jewish people left alive
Believes it's a good thing white people aren't breeding
Wants to burn down Downing Street and hunt Police
I've probably left a few choice quotes out but one would hope that the Prime Minister and his Tory predecessors would have done due dillegence on this nasty fellow. |
Without trying to defend either Tory or Labour politicians, this is clearly the sort of thing that officials in the Foreign Office and Home Office ought to have picked up.
Or was there some other overriding interest that made us support him?
On the other hand, it does appear that there we have relatively good relations with the Egyptian military dictatorship.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-egypt-strategic-partnership-22-july-2025 [Post edited 29 Dec 10:37]
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 11:02 - Dec 29 with 1011 views | carlisleaway |
How this country is in desperate need of a strong leader, not forthcoming from anyone in the Labour camp……mind you that Green leader is a threat to the country..
Where is the next Churchill or Thatcher when you need them.
Farage is saying all the right things but not sure if he would be any better than Starmer |  | | |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 11:24 - Dec 29 with 923 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 11:02 - Dec 29 by carlisleaway |
How this country is in desperate need of a strong leader, not forthcoming from anyone in the Labour camp……mind you that Green leader is a threat to the country..
Where is the next Churchill or Thatcher when you need them.
Farage is saying all the right things but not sure if he would be any better than Starmer |
Farage is saying all the right things? Lolz.
And Thatcher is part of the reason this county is in such a state now, she really wasn't a good PM. | |
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| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 11:24 - Dec 29 with 920 views | Plums |
| Starmer gives Farage a late Christmas present on 11:02 - Dec 29 by carlisleaway |
How this country is in desperate need of a strong leader, not forthcoming from anyone in the Labour camp……mind you that Green leader is a threat to the country..
Where is the next Churchill or Thatcher when you need them.
Farage is saying all the right things but not sure if he would be any better than Starmer |
Fixed it for you
"Farage is saying all the far right things"
as he always has done:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2025/dec/28/of-course-he-abused- |  |
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