| If we go up. 19:07 - Jan 6 with 3479 views | MK1 |
McKenna stays, right? Would he take the Palace job if as widely believed that Glasner will be Man Utd's next permanent manager? (His contract is up in the summer) |  |
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| If we go up. on 14:19 - Jan 7 with 617 views | IndependentlyBlue |
| If we go up. on 11:52 - Jan 7 by _CliveBaker_ |
United get an interim until the end of the season.
Glasner to United in the summer
McKenna to Palace
Allardyce to Town
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| If we go up. on 14:27 - Jan 7 with 572 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
I don't think KM will be here next season. Unfortunately, as kuch as we don't want to admit it, we are a stepping stone for any manager that comes in.
What Ashton and co need to do is build a structure that can be successful (to an extent) irrelevant of manager and players. Can and will he do that, I dont know - I have my doubts.
We need fans, managers and pundits discussing us in the same breath as Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth and Palace. That needs to be the benchmark we are aiming for. |  |
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| If we go up. on 14:30 - Jan 7 with 565 views | jasondozzell |
| If we go up. on 14:27 - Jan 7 by BlacknGoldnBlue |
I don't think KM will be here next season. Unfortunately, as kuch as we don't want to admit it, we are a stepping stone for any manager that comes in.
What Ashton and co need to do is build a structure that can be successful (to an extent) irrelevant of manager and players. Can and will he do that, I dont know - I have my doubts.
We need fans, managers and pundits discussing us in the same breath as Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth and Palace. That needs to be the benchmark we are aiming for. |
I really hope that's not correct but I do worry about the summer.
However, I feel that if we go up, KM may see establishing us as the next audition for the United job.
It all depends on the United/Spurs decision making I think.
We're a far bigger club than Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton and Palace, as well run as they are.
The one thing that might save us with KM is that our backers are very very ambitious. Again I still think a lot of people haven't clocked that. |  | | |
| If we go up. on 14:34 - Jan 7 with 552 views | Churchman |
| If we go up. on 14:18 - Jan 7 by jasondozzell |
Completely agree with this take. It's always been the one.
As I said earlier, I still don't think a lot of Town support realise how highly thought of he is there. They very reluctantly let him go when he came down here.
I really want him to stay at manage us in the PL for the next decade but he has to do what is right for him.
If I was at United I would be jumping up and down to let them know he's the obvious choice for them. He always was.
If he's asked he goes. I would wish him nothing but success there. Losing him to United would be easier than to Palace or Brighton etc.
I really really hope he stays. We're so lucky to have him.
For what it's worth, I think he'd be a huge success at United playing attacking football in their tradition. |
A chunk of ITFC support has lost faith in him and his team. If I were him, that’d be a factor. Why stay here when you can take a step up to Palace, a progressive well run club that interested him before?
I agree regarding United. He’s a good choice for them and he would obviously crawl over glass to take it. Who wouldn’t? It’s the most prestigious English club, regardless of what Man City and whoever do.
There is a fly in the ointment though. The club appears a mess. The big dog in the room regarding the team is Jason Wilcox. He is DoF and what he says goes. If he doesn’t like say 433 formation, you’d better play 442. If he likes the look of Manuel Bootitlong you’d better put him in the team. If you disagree with him, you’d better do it his way or you are toast as Amorim found out. Would McKenna accept that? Probably - because it’s Man United.
He might of course wait for Spurs. I can’t see Frank lasting long. Possibly to the end of the season. Tottenham look as windy as they ever did and TF will be carrying the can for that. It’d make for good timing from McKenna’s perspective. [Post edited 7 Jan 15:25]
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| If we go up. on 14:59 - Jan 7 with 511 views | Denny32 |
No definitely not ..First of all ,we can be as good as Palace and if can stay in the top flight, probably can' go better than them...so kieran would not go there. And also getting up to the Premier again means diddly sqat in the eyes of owners of big clubs..its how you coach and manage the big players in the top flight and achieving good results is what will get you a big job ... |  | | |
| If we go up. on 15:01 - Jan 7 with 508 views | jasondozzell |
| If we go up. on 14:34 - Jan 7 by Churchman |
A chunk of ITFC support has lost faith in him and his team. If I were him, that’d be a factor. Why stay here when you can take a step up to Palace, a progressive well run club that interested him before?
I agree regarding United. He’s a good choice for them and he would obviously crawl over glass to take it. Who wouldn’t? It’s the most prestigious English club, regardless of what Man City and whoever do.
There is a fly in the ointment though. The club appears a mess. The big dog in the room regarding the team is Jason Wilcox. He is DoF and what he says goes. If he doesn’t like say 433 formation, you’d better play 442. If he likes the look of Manuel Bootitlong you’d better put him in the team. If you disagree with him, you’d better do it his way or you are toast as Amorim found out. Would McKenna accept that? Probably - because it’s Man United.
He might of course wait for Spurs. I can’t see Frank lasting long. Possibly to the end of the season. Tottenham look as windy as they ever did and TF will be carrying the can for that. It’d make for good timing from McKenna’s perspective. [Post edited 7 Jan 15:25]
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Good points, especially about the lack of faith shown by some of our support. I've found that shocking this season. Again the job he is doing here is excellent. Football fantasy league casual fans may not vecognise it but coaching and improving players and a team doesn't happen by itself. He may well feel ready for a change at a club like Palace but the hope is that he's turned that down before and might again.
United is a huge challenge. But it's his club and as you say he would do anything for that role. Very messy behind the scenes as you say but KM is no fool and he will make it clear what will or won't work in my view. And I think you're right about him accepting it to an extent because of the pull.
Spurs also like him a lot. That wouldn't surprise me either. Especially with the connection again.
Let's see. One thing is certain. He's going to win big things as a manager. | | | |
| If we go up. on 15:06 - Jan 7 with 489 views | darkhorse28 |
| If we go up. on 14:18 - Jan 7 by jasondozzell |
Completely agree with this take. It's always been the one.
As I said earlier, I still don't think a lot of Town support realise how highly thought of he is there. They very reluctantly let him go when he came down here.
I really want him to stay at manage us in the PL for the next decade but he has to do what is right for him.
If I was at United I would be jumping up and down to let them know he's the obvious choice for them. He always was.
If he's asked he goes. I would wish him nothing but success there. Losing him to United would be easier than to Palace or Brighton etc.
I really really hope he stays. We're so lucky to have him.
For what it's worth, I think he'd be a huge success at United playing attacking football in their tradition. |
The Utd ownership don’t have ‘money in the bank’ with their fans.., mistake after mistake after mistake.
Park the emotion for one second. McKenna delivered arguably the worst ever season in the top flight (prem period).
One season. Fifth worst in the leagues history, arguably the worst adjusted for resources spent.
How any club that has such huge expectations sees that as progress is bizarre. Yes he has a relationship with the club, but that’s meaningless as they witnessed with Ole - competance is all that counts, and whilst he’s clearly v talented, there’s zero evidence he can even manage in that league, let alone at the top end, in fact all the evidence says he’s a top EFL manager.
They just sacked a manager who’s clearly at a much higher level to KM.
This is why he’ll end up at Celtic if we don’t go up - European football, we can’t afford him and will wave the compensation, we can’t pay a manger 100% of our TV revenue.
We’d drive him to Celtic if we don’t get promotion. Europe, trophies, and a proven pathway to a top premier league club.
Personally, I think unless he gets a club that’s run really well and does the talent ID he has ZERO chance of success, he isn’t elite at all in management terms.., Utd and Celtic aren’t those clubs.
A Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth, or Palace would suit him better .., needs elite talent ID and to just coach .., he could be elite at that.
He’s already failed at some of the management areas, he and Ashton have, and over two years too, so it’s not growing pains, they aren’t as good as others are in those areas, and haven’t had the self awareness to go and stand on the shoulders of giants.., which is what elite people do.
Elite doesn’t need control. It recognises strengths, weaknesses, and elite mitigates.
That’s not KM, and it’s not Mark.
He’d do well at Brighton, Tony et al are truely elite. | | | |
| If we go up. on 15:11 - Jan 7 with 472 views | positivity |
| If we go up. on 14:34 - Jan 7 by Churchman |
A chunk of ITFC support has lost faith in him and his team. If I were him, that’d be a factor. Why stay here when you can take a step up to Palace, a progressive well run club that interested him before?
I agree regarding United. He’s a good choice for them and he would obviously crawl over glass to take it. Who wouldn’t? It’s the most prestigious English club, regardless of what Man City and whoever do.
There is a fly in the ointment though. The club appears a mess. The big dog in the room regarding the team is Jason Wilcox. He is DoF and what he says goes. If he doesn’t like say 433 formation, you’d better play 442. If he likes the look of Manuel Bootitlong you’d better put him in the team. If you disagree with him, you’d better do it his way or you are toast as Amorim found out. Would McKenna accept that? Probably - because it’s Man United.
He might of course wait for Spurs. I can’t see Frank lasting long. Possibly to the end of the season. Tottenham look as windy as they ever did and TF will be carrying the can for that. It’d make for good timing from McKenna’s perspective. [Post edited 7 Jan 15:25]
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the mindless boo-boy element of our "support" has already seen off a potential juve goalkeeper for a cut-price fee. hope they don't deprive us of mckenna too... | |
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| If we go up. on 15:18 - Jan 7 with 451 views | SomethingBlue |
| If we go up. on 13:58 - Jan 7 by tractorboy1978 |
Doesn't logically seem to me that Palace is more appealing than the last time he turned them down though? We are in a far stronger place and Palace arguably have a weaker squad than they did then (with Guehi/Wharton soon to be off too). |
Maybe. But for some inexplicable reason a fair number of our fanbase have decided they are bored and don't hugely fancy supporting the team so maybe KM will think a move freshens things up for him while allowing them a new toy. | |
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| If we go up. on 15:47 - Jan 7 with 406 views | rickw |
I see it as only a small chance Glasner goes to MU, however if he does I think it would be a mistake for McKenna to go there.
They are a club who sell their best players each summer and spend comparatively little, plus he'll be following their most successful manager ever and losing their captain - Guehi...
Celtic I could understand if we don't get promotion, if we do then I don't know [Post edited 7 Jan 15:48]
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| If we go up. on 16:54 - Jan 7 with 339 views | vilanovablue |
I think he is off to Palace in the summer, they're a stable prem club these days and reasonably well run. It gives him a chance to establish himself in the prem and will serve as a stepping stone to one of the bigger jobs. I will be sad to see him go but it sure has been a hell of a ride since he has been here and I have seen his sides play some sensational football. |  | | |
| If we go up. on 18:03 - Jan 7 with 277 views | OsmansCleanSheet |
| If we go up. on 15:06 - Jan 7 by darkhorse28 |
The Utd ownership don’t have ‘money in the bank’ with their fans.., mistake after mistake after mistake.
Park the emotion for one second. McKenna delivered arguably the worst ever season in the top flight (prem period).
One season. Fifth worst in the leagues history, arguably the worst adjusted for resources spent.
How any club that has such huge expectations sees that as progress is bizarre. Yes he has a relationship with the club, but that’s meaningless as they witnessed with Ole - competance is all that counts, and whilst he’s clearly v talented, there’s zero evidence he can even manage in that league, let alone at the top end, in fact all the evidence says he’s a top EFL manager.
They just sacked a manager who’s clearly at a much higher level to KM.
This is why he’ll end up at Celtic if we don’t go up - European football, we can’t afford him and will wave the compensation, we can’t pay a manger 100% of our TV revenue.
We’d drive him to Celtic if we don’t get promotion. Europe, trophies, and a proven pathway to a top premier league club.
Personally, I think unless he gets a club that’s run really well and does the talent ID he has ZERO chance of success, he isn’t elite at all in management terms.., Utd and Celtic aren’t those clubs.
A Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth, or Palace would suit him better .., needs elite talent ID and to just coach .., he could be elite at that.
He’s already failed at some of the management areas, he and Ashton have, and over two years too, so it’s not growing pains, they aren’t as good as others are in those areas, and haven’t had the self awareness to go and stand on the shoulders of giants.., which is what elite people do.
Elite doesn’t need control. It recognises strengths, weaknesses, and elite mitigates.
That’s not KM, and it’s not Mark.
He’d do well at Brighton, Tony et al are truely elite. |
Utter drivel as usual. Some might say it’s elite level drivel. |  | | |
| If we go up. on 18:31 - Jan 7 with 253 views | MK1 |
| If we go up. on 14:34 - Jan 7 by Churchman |
A chunk of ITFC support has lost faith in him and his team. If I were him, that’d be a factor. Why stay here when you can take a step up to Palace, a progressive well run club that interested him before?
I agree regarding United. He’s a good choice for them and he would obviously crawl over glass to take it. Who wouldn’t? It’s the most prestigious English club, regardless of what Man City and whoever do.
There is a fly in the ointment though. The club appears a mess. The big dog in the room regarding the team is Jason Wilcox. He is DoF and what he says goes. If he doesn’t like say 433 formation, you’d better play 442. If he likes the look of Manuel Bootitlong you’d better put him in the team. If you disagree with him, you’d better do it his way or you are toast as Amorim found out. Would McKenna accept that? Probably - because it’s Man United.
He might of course wait for Spurs. I can’t see Frank lasting long. Possibly to the end of the season. Tottenham look as windy as they ever did and TF will be carrying the can for that. It’d make for good timing from McKenna’s perspective. [Post edited 7 Jan 15:25]
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IF McKenna goes to Spurs, can we have Thomas Frank please. | |
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| If we go up. on 18:50 - Jan 7 with 227 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
There is a chance he stays because of the long term vision, upgrades off the pitch and his wages, which I assume would be top half of the league if we are back up.
However, I would actually be surprised if he starts next season as Ipswich manager in either scenario. Not even sure it is more likely he stays if we go up or not. Feels like one of the middle of the pack PL jobs will come up at some point and if he achieves promotion again there is enough of a body of work. Also he will be more PL battle tested after the one failed year with us there and a squad that wasn't near the levels to compete.
I imagine he will do very well in an established setup with the network and everything already in place.
He is ambitious and 5-6 years is a lifetime to be at the same club these days in the modern game really. |  |
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