| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England 07:18 - Jan 9 with 1376 views | Steve_M |
The problem is structural and the ECB have deliberately messed the rest of English cricket up in pursuit of the Hundred. I wonder how long the market for £150+ tickets for Test matches lasts if the sport itself doesn't care.
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 07:54 - Jan 9 with 1274 views | Keno |
Totally agree, the hundred should be binned its a sporting dead end.
"There is nothing the hundred brings to cricket that couldn't be achieved if the ECB had the balls to do the 20:20 tournament properly'. Not my words but those of some bloke called Shane Warne
County cricket need to be completely restructured and thinned down. Yes that will upset some underachieving counties but again quoting Mr Warne 'there are too many meaningless games where mediocre players can earn a living playing mediocre cricket under no pressure'
Also, for the long term sake of the game it needs to come back to terrestrial TV where everyone can watch easily.
There are some hard choices but as always they will be bottled while the ECB chase the big bucks which will be wasted on propping up the 'old boys' not the real development of the sport [Post edited 9 Jan 7:54]
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 08:29 - Jan 9 with 1178 views | homer_123 |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 07:54 - Jan 9 by Keno |
Totally agree, the hundred should be binned its a sporting dead end.
"There is nothing the hundred brings to cricket that couldn't be achieved if the ECB had the balls to do the 20:20 tournament properly'. Not my words but those of some bloke called Shane Warne
County cricket need to be completely restructured and thinned down. Yes that will upset some underachieving counties but again quoting Mr Warne 'there are too many meaningless games where mediocre players can earn a living playing mediocre cricket under no pressure'
Also, for the long term sake of the game it needs to come back to terrestrial TV where everyone can watch easily.
There are some hard choices but as always they will be bottled while the ECB chase the big bucks which will be wasted on propping up the 'old boys' not the real development of the sport [Post edited 9 Jan 7:54]
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Cricket runs the risk of going the way football is going - pricing out it's core supporters, pushing more and more away form the sport. |  |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 08:35 - Jan 9 with 1164 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 07:54 - Jan 9 by Keno |
Totally agree, the hundred should be binned its a sporting dead end.
"There is nothing the hundred brings to cricket that couldn't be achieved if the ECB had the balls to do the 20:20 tournament properly'. Not my words but those of some bloke called Shane Warne
County cricket need to be completely restructured and thinned down. Yes that will upset some underachieving counties but again quoting Mr Warne 'there are too many meaningless games where mediocre players can earn a living playing mediocre cricket under no pressure'
Also, for the long term sake of the game it needs to come back to terrestrial TV where everyone can watch easily.
There are some hard choices but as always they will be bottled while the ECB chase the big bucks which will be wasted on propping up the 'old boys' not the real development of the sport [Post edited 9 Jan 7:54]
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Not much point in having cricket on terrestrial TV now because when the kids are off school in August all they can watch is the Hundred. |  |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 09:01 - Jan 9 with 1114 views | bsw72 |
Brilliant photo selection, especially the choice of the Key/McCullum one, subconciously reinforcing the casual "chummy" nature of the relationship and approach of them both suggested in the article.
Ironically the article itself feels a little like bazball. It raises valid and serious points about the deep-rooted structural problems facing English cricket; elitism, poor governance, and a loss of cultural identity, but then gets caught up in calling out the same individuals , and fails to focus on those bigger issues. |  | | |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 09:11 - Jan 9 with 1055 views | giant_stow |
Re the price, i casually said yes to a ticket to Lords last summer - quite a shock when it was coigh up time! |  |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 09:28 - Jan 9 with 1001 views | MaySixth |
I've been saying the same thing for years.
Btw Lords/Oval will always sell out ,even when England are terrible |  |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 10:39 - Jan 9 with 899 views | judespiveyg |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 07:54 - Jan 9 by Keno |
Totally agree, the hundred should be binned its a sporting dead end.
"There is nothing the hundred brings to cricket that couldn't be achieved if the ECB had the balls to do the 20:20 tournament properly'. Not my words but those of some bloke called Shane Warne
County cricket need to be completely restructured and thinned down. Yes that will upset some underachieving counties but again quoting Mr Warne 'there are too many meaningless games where mediocre players can earn a living playing mediocre cricket under no pressure'
Also, for the long term sake of the game it needs to come back to terrestrial TV where everyone can watch easily.
There are some hard choices but as always they will be bottled while the ECB chase the big bucks which will be wasted on propping up the 'old boys' not the real development of the sport [Post edited 9 Jan 7:54]
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The Hundred made £500m for the ECB through team sales, to be reinvested into the county game and ensure it remains solvent for years. Personally always think the take that there are too many counties is a load of rubbish. Bigger issue (and the hundred does contribute to this sadly), is that too much if the county season is played in the spring, which is only really conducive to developing a load of 75mph swing bowlers rather than quicks or spinners, and it isn't great for batsmen to bat on raging green tops. |  |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 11:21 - Jan 9 with 824 views | mellowblue |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 07:54 - Jan 9 by Keno |
Totally agree, the hundred should be binned its a sporting dead end.
"There is nothing the hundred brings to cricket that couldn't be achieved if the ECB had the balls to do the 20:20 tournament properly'. Not my words but those of some bloke called Shane Warne
County cricket need to be completely restructured and thinned down. Yes that will upset some underachieving counties but again quoting Mr Warne 'there are too many meaningless games where mediocre players can earn a living playing mediocre cricket under no pressure'
Also, for the long term sake of the game it needs to come back to terrestrial TV where everyone can watch easily.
There are some hard choices but as always they will be bottled while the ECB chase the big bucks which will be wasted on propping up the 'old boys' not the real development of the sport [Post edited 9 Jan 7:54]
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I suspect that the Indian franchises who have bought into the hundred will quietly morph it into T20 once the current contract with Sky etc comes to an end. Dosn't make much sense to have an international series of franchise cricket with the English one being solely hundred format. Still messes up August though. |  | | |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 11:58 - Jan 9 with 770 views | Cafe_Newman |
Great article. Thanks.
This line hit me more than any other:
"English cricket, and indeed England itself, must at least try to be something else.
I wonder what the journo means by that? |  | | |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 12:45 - Jan 9 with 728 views | Keno |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 11:21 - Jan 9 by mellowblue |
I suspect that the Indian franchises who have bought into the hundred will quietly morph it into T20 once the current contract with Sky etc comes to an end. Dosn't make much sense to have an international series of franchise cricket with the English one being solely hundred format. Still messes up August though. |
this is already been predicted with the domestic T20 slowly sliding away | |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 12:52 - Jan 9 with 710 views | Keno |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 10:39 - Jan 9 by judespiveyg |
The Hundred made £500m for the ECB through team sales, to be reinvested into the county game and ensure it remains solvent for years. Personally always think the take that there are too many counties is a load of rubbish. Bigger issue (and the hundred does contribute to this sadly), is that too much if the county season is played in the spring, which is only really conducive to developing a load of 75mph swing bowlers rather than quicks or spinners, and it isn't great for batsmen to bat on raging green tops. |
"The Hundred made £500m for the ECB through team sales, to be reinvested into the county game and ensure it remains solvent for years"
But at what overall cost and surely it would have been better to create a much more sustainable overall structure? If the ECB had the balls they could have dont this with T20 and not created the fixture log jam we have now.
If you thinned down the counties you could have more meaningful competitive county matches that would help develop test players in the way that the Sheffield Shield does. Also doing this and getting rid of either t20 or preferably the 100 could give the space for long form cricket at sensible times | |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 13:36 - Jan 9 with 632 views | judespiveyg |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 12:52 - Jan 9 by Keno |
"The Hundred made £500m for the ECB through team sales, to be reinvested into the county game and ensure it remains solvent for years"
But at what overall cost and surely it would have been better to create a much more sustainable overall structure? If the ECB had the balls they could have dont this with T20 and not created the fixture log jam we have now.
If you thinned down the counties you could have more meaningful competitive county matches that would help develop test players in the way that the Sheffield Shield does. Also doing this and getting rid of either t20 or preferably the 100 could give the space for long form cricket at sensible times |
Shield is massively overrated at producing players for the Australia side. Of this series only 3 or 4 made their Shield debut in the last 10 years, including Doggett, Inglis and Green who hardly set the world alight. Cummins and Hazelwood have played very little Shield cricket in their careers. Only position Shield is really good for is ensuring a decent list of back up quicks. Batsmen who have done well in the shield such as McSweeney and Burns have been poor test players. Top order situation is no better than Englands. | |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 13:51 - Jan 9 with 607 views | thebooks |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 11:58 - Jan 9 by Cafe_Newman |
Great article. Thanks.
This line hit me more than any other:
"English cricket, and indeed England itself, must at least try to be something else.
I wonder what the journo means by that? |
Maybe he’s referring to the elitism, commercialism and amateurism that’s prevailed in public, cultural and political life for the last 15 or so years 🤷♂️ |  | | |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 18:21 - Jan 9 with 490 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 13:51 - Jan 9 by thebooks |
Maybe he’s referring to the elitism, commercialism and amateurism that’s prevailed in public, cultural and political life for the last 15 or so years 🤷♂️ |
Elitism and amateurism? | | | |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 19:21 - Jan 9 with 452 views | Fenland_Blue |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 18:21 - Jan 9 by Cafe_Newman |
Elitism and amateurism? |
I couldn’t believe when Lords said they could a beacon for non elitism in cricket, and in the next breath are advertising £170 tickets against India. |  |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 19:24 - Jan 9 with 448 views | Fenland_Blue |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 09:11 - Jan 9 by giant_stow |
Re the price, i casually said yes to a ticket to Lords last summer - quite a shock when it was coigh up time! |
Just £15 to watch a day of County cricket at Chelmsford. | |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 20:31 - Jan 9 with 409 views | thebooks |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 18:21 - Jan 9 by Cafe_Newman |
Elitism and amateurism? |
Yep, a narrow class spectrum of amateur dudes.
I like cricket as a sport, but the public-schoolness off it is really off-putting. | | | |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 22:25 - Jan 9 with 343 views | bournemouthblue |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 12:52 - Jan 9 by Keno |
"The Hundred made £500m for the ECB through team sales, to be reinvested into the county game and ensure it remains solvent for years"
But at what overall cost and surely it would have been better to create a much more sustainable overall structure? If the ECB had the balls they could have dont this with T20 and not created the fixture log jam we have now.
If you thinned down the counties you could have more meaningful competitive county matches that would help develop test players in the way that the Sheffield Shield does. Also doing this and getting rid of either t20 or preferably the 100 could give the space for long form cricket at sensible times |
You could keep the existing system and thin it down, just make the County Chanpionship an 8 team league, centrally fund overseas players from the money raised from the hundred, give them three each and make them good ones
I imagine it's really expensive logistically but you could have an overseas portion of the calendar in the season for Spring maybe in somewhere like Dubai or USA etc |  |
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| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 22:45 - Jan 9 with 306 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 20:31 - Jan 9 by thebooks |
Yep, a narrow class spectrum of amateur dudes.
I like cricket as a sport, but the public-schoolness off it is really off-putting. |
I misunderstood. Amateurish players but elitist image for the sport.
Yep, there's something in that. | | | |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 22:48 - Jan 9 with 301 views | Herbivore |
| Cricket: good, if bleak piece on England on 11:58 - Jan 9 by Cafe_Newman |
Great article. Thanks.
This line hit me more than any other:
"English cricket, and indeed England itself, must at least try to be something else.
I wonder what the journo means by that? |
He's encouraging us to vote for Reform. |  |
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