| If you were a town player 00:12 - Feb 1 with 1100 views | FrimleyBlue |
Prior to today's game based on prestons recent scorelines and our recent home form.
Would you want to be hyped up. Told to go out. Be confident and get at them and get another 3 home points
Or to hear they will be a tough opponent. A tough fixture. Be careful etc etc.
I appreciate theres truth in both and I appreciate that you don't want complacency.
I guess its a personal choice on what you'd prefer but I personally would be part of the group buzzing for the game after last week to put things right against a side on poor form. Rather than worrying about how they are going to be a strong opponent. I dont that needs to be said its a given really.
I just find it personally quite counter productive to be so negative prior to a game. |  |
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| If you were a town player on 00:16 - Feb 1 with 1010 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
You think that what he puts out at press conferences for public consumption is the same as his team talk? [Post edited 1 Feb 0:26]
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| If you were a town player on 00:24 - Feb 1 with 987 views | FrimleyBlue |
| If you were a town player on 00:16 - Feb 1 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You think that what he puts out at press conferences for public consumption is the same as his team talk? [Post edited 1 Feb 0:26]
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Based on how players end up talking like KM in their own interviews. Yes. | |
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| If you were a town player on 00:37 - Feb 1 with 969 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If you were a town player on 00:16 - Feb 1 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You think that what he puts out at press conferences for public consumption is the same as his team talk? [Post edited 1 Feb 0:26]
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If Frimmers did the team talk it would be so much better. You can tell from all his brain farts on here! |  |
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| If you were a town player on 00:38 - Feb 1 with 966 views | mrfixit426 |
If anyone was going to come up with a new negative spin on today's events, it was going to be you.
How long did it take you to concoct that one?
Christ. |  | | |
| If you were a town player on 00:38 - Feb 1 with 961 views | reusersfreekicks |
| If you were a town player on 00:16 - Feb 1 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You think that what he puts out at press conferences for public consumption is the same as his team talk? [Post edited 1 Feb 0:26]
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Ridiculous isn't it. No point in this thread at all [Post edited 1 Feb 0:39]
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| If you were a town player on 00:41 - Feb 1 with 924 views | FrimleyBlue |
| If you were a town player on 00:38 - Feb 1 by mrfixit426 |
If anyone was going to come up with a new negative spin on today's events, it was going to be you.
How long did it take you to concoct that one?
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Just saw the pre game comments on x. Hadn't seen them prior. Would have asked about them had I done.
Is this another thing thats not able to discussed on here because its not praising something?
Is it wrong to feel a more confident pre game thought would be more appealing and gee you up more of you were a player and also for those going?
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| If you were a town player on 00:47 - Feb 1 with 882 views | mrfixit426 |
| If you were a town player on 00:41 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Just saw the pre game comments on x. Hadn't seen them prior. Would have asked about them had I done.
Is this another thing thats not able to discussed on here because its not praising something?
Is it wrong to feel a more confident pre game thought would be more appealing and gee you up more of you were a player and also for those going?
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I think McKenna has said the next opponent will be a tough game in almost every pre-match press conference he's been involved in since coming to the club. If you think the players pay attention to these soundbites in any way, shape or form, then you're more clueless than even I thought.
And the bar is low. Do better. | | | |
| If you were a town player on 00:53 - Feb 1 with 850 views | FrimleyBlue |
| If you were a town player on 00:47 - Feb 1 by mrfixit426 |
I think McKenna has said the next opponent will be a tough game in almost every pre-match press conference he's been involved in since coming to the club. If you think the players pay attention to these soundbites in any way, shape or form, then you're more clueless than even I thought.
And the bar is low. Do better. |
It really is interesting the posters who can have discussions on here without the need for insults. Its ok to disagree with something without doing so.
Yes i believe the way in which a manager speaks is important. Yes I believe this is taken on board by players. Otherwise there'd by no point in the words. It also is translated in the way the players go out and play and can lead to alot of safety first approach over players trying killer balls or taking shots from distance incase it leads to a turnover.
Anyways. Thought it could be a genuine discussion but clearly got that wrong. Ill leave it there for the night. | |
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| If you were a town player on 00:57 - Feb 1 with 835 views | mrfixit426 |
| If you were a town player on 00:53 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
It really is interesting the posters who can have discussions on here without the need for insults. Its ok to disagree with something without doing so.
Yes i believe the way in which a manager speaks is important. Yes I believe this is taken on board by players. Otherwise there'd by no point in the words. It also is translated in the way the players go out and play and can lead to alot of safety first approach over players trying killer balls or taking shots from distance incase it leads to a turnover.
Anyways. Thought it could be a genuine discussion but clearly got that wrong. Ill leave it there for the night. |
I mean, that's all nonsense, but you do you. | | | |
| If you were a town player on 00:59 - Feb 1 with 824 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If you were a town player on 00:47 - Feb 1 by mrfixit426 |
I think McKenna has said the next opponent will be a tough game in almost every pre-match press conference he's been involved in since coming to the club. If you think the players pay attention to these soundbites in any way, shape or form, then you're more clueless than even I thought.
And the bar is low. Do better. |
Not just McKenna either is it?
Can you imagine any manager talking to the press:
"It's Preston at home. They haven't won in four and we are on great form. We will smash them by a good score. I really want us to hit double figures. COME ON TEAM! WE'RE UP FOR THIS!" ... "Oh, sorry, Phil, let me wipe the spittle off your chin for you, I thought I was doing my team talk for a minute there!" | |
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| If you were a town player on 01:03 - Feb 1 with 803 views | mrfixit426 |
| If you were a town player on 00:59 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Not just McKenna either is it?
Can you imagine any manager talking to the press:
"It's Preston at home. They haven't won in four and we are on great form. We will smash them by a good score. I really want us to hit double figures. COME ON TEAM! WE'RE UP FOR THIS!" ... "Oh, sorry, Phil, let me wipe the spittle off your chin for you, I thought I was doing my team talk for a minute there!" |
Exactly. I pay no attention to pre-match press conferences apart from the injury updates. They're all the same.
"Good week in training, lessons from the last match, tough opponent." | | | |
| If you were a town player on 01:07 - Feb 1 with 778 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If you were a town player on 01:03 - Feb 1 by mrfixit426 |
Exactly. I pay no attention to pre-match press conferences apart from the injury updates. They're all the same.
"Good week in training, lessons from the last match, tough opponent." |
But the players do listen. Imagine Jack Clarke expecting to hear how he is going to have an easy afternoon against some average League 1 standard dross to suddenly hear it's going to be a tough game. He probably didn't sleep after hearing it and was afraid to make a forward run until he found out they weren't as good as McKenna had suggested they are. If only he had heard McKenna tell the press he was going to have an easy afternoon of it. He would have felt no pressure and slept like a baby. | |
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| If you were a town player on 01:08 - Feb 1 with 771 views | FrimleyBlue |
| If you were a town player on 00:59 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Not just McKenna either is it?
Can you imagine any manager talking to the press:
"It's Preston at home. They haven't won in four and we are on great form. We will smash them by a good score. I really want us to hit double figures. COME ON TEAM! WE'RE UP FOR THIS!" ... "Oh, sorry, Phil, let me wipe the spittle off your chin for you, I thought I was doing my team talk for a minute there!" |
" last week was disappointing but this week at home in front of our supporters its a good opportunity to put that behind us. Weve had a good run of home form so we will be looking to carry that on and an opportunity to continue to put pressure on those above us.
Not ott. Not disrecptful and confident. For fans and players. | |
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| If you were a town player on 01:09 - Feb 1 with 760 views | mrfixit426 |
| If you were a town player on 01:07 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
But the players do listen. Imagine Jack Clarke expecting to hear how he is going to have an easy afternoon against some average League 1 standard dross to suddenly hear it's going to be a tough game. He probably didn't sleep after hearing it and was afraid to make a forward run until he found out they weren't as good as McKenna had suggested they are. If only he had heard McKenna tell the press he was going to have an easy afternoon of it. He would have felt no pressure and slept like a baby. |
Ha!
That's why he wasn't trying killer balls or taking shots from distance in case it led to a turnover.
Obvs. | | | |
| If you were a town player on 01:10 - Feb 1 with 739 views | FrimleyBlue |
| If you were a town player on 01:07 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
But the players do listen. Imagine Jack Clarke expecting to hear how he is going to have an easy afternoon against some average League 1 standard dross to suddenly hear it's going to be a tough game. He probably didn't sleep after hearing it and was afraid to make a forward run until he found out they weren't as good as McKenna had suggested they are. If only he had heard McKenna tell the press he was going to have an easy afternoon of it. He would have felt no pressure and slept like a baby. |
Blimey you really are upset Sammy didnt make the 18. Didn't have you down as one of them. | |
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| If you were a town player on 01:14 - Feb 1 with 642 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If you were a town player on 01:10 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Blimey you really are upset Sammy didnt make the 18. Didn't have you down as one of them. |
Lol.
Have a read back of McKenna's pre-match press conference comments before matches we have won. They really won't read much different from this one.
Upset Szmodics is looking like he will be sold? Yes, a bit. I thought he was one of our better players last season and losing him to injury was a backward step. However, Mehmeti is potentially a very good replacement and Szmodics clearly isn't going to want to be 3rd choice here. It's a shame but my calling you out on your ridiculous takes is nothing to do with the fact I wish Szmodics was staying. | |
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| If you were a town player on 01:20 - Feb 1 with 592 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Goodness me. |  |
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| If you were a town player on 01:27 - Feb 1 with 563 views | FrimleyBlue |
| If you were a town player on 01:14 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Lol.
Have a read back of McKenna's pre-match press conference comments before matches we have won. They really won't read much different from this one.
Upset Szmodics is looking like he will be sold? Yes, a bit. I thought he was one of our better players last season and losing him to injury was a backward step. However, Mehmeti is potentially a very good replacement and Szmodics clearly isn't going to want to be 3rd choice here. It's a shame but my calling you out on your ridiculous takes is nothing to do with the fact I wish Szmodics was staying. |
Think I just find it reallt depressing.
Against stoke. He said the following. It mentions a tough gig but it still comes across in a more positive way imo.
We’re expecting a really good team, a really good footballing test and I think it should make for a really good game so we’re looking forward to it,” Kieran said.
“Energy, intensity, resilience and all of those things is what often gets you over the line in games and of course we have to show that on the pitch, but the more that we can show that together with supporters; that’s massive for us and that’ll be massive for us tomorrow night.”
“We appreciate the support we always get and I know there will be a big turnout again tomorrow night. It’s always a privilege to be at our home stadium so let’s see if we can go and hopefully deliver a really good performance and if not, let’s go and see if we can all give everything we’ve got to try and get the points.”
“Yeah, we want both, but on the days that you can’t be perfect with the performance, it’s so important over the course of a season to get the points as well
As I say its a personal thing really.
On sammy. Obviously im judt messing with ya. But im with you tho that id rather we kept sammy over akpom tbh. | |
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| If you were a town player on 01:52 - Feb 1 with 518 views | mrfixit426 |
| If you were a town player on 01:27 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Think I just find it reallt depressing.
Against stoke. He said the following. It mentions a tough gig but it still comes across in a more positive way imo.
We’re expecting a really good team, a really good footballing test and I think it should make for a really good game so we’re looking forward to it,” Kieran said.
“Energy, intensity, resilience and all of those things is what often gets you over the line in games and of course we have to show that on the pitch, but the more that we can show that together with supporters; that’s massive for us and that’ll be massive for us tomorrow night.”
“We appreciate the support we always get and I know there will be a big turnout again tomorrow night. It’s always a privilege to be at our home stadium so let’s see if we can go and hopefully deliver a really good performance and if not, let’s go and see if we can all give everything we’ve got to try and get the points.”
“Yeah, we want both, but on the days that you can’t be perfect with the performance, it’s so important over the course of a season to get the points as well
As I say its a personal thing really.
On sammy. Obviously im judt messing with ya. But im with you tho that id rather we kept sammy over akpom tbh. |
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| If you were a town player on 07:47 - Feb 1 with 325 views | bsw72 |
It’s a good point after all he obviously does not talk to the players as a group and individually during training all week and just leaves delivering all his message to the team at a 30 minute press conference.
Seriously?
Of all the negative tripe posted on here this has to be the most lacking in thought, and that is saying something. |  | | |
| If you were a town player on 08:10 - Feb 1 with 267 views | BouncebackIpswich |
I think Frimmers has a point in that KM seems to be fearful of playing these types of teams, it does come across in how he talks about these kind of games, it makes it difficult when the opponents defend deep type of comments he makes regularly .
I think the fear is because he knows that his system struggles against it and he's never been able to figure out an effective way of countering it.
That fearfulness and over respect for teams that frankly Town should be putting away comfortably and over apprehension of a game where we know we're going to be facing a defensive side probably does transmit to the players in a sense and reduces their confidence.
McKenna is a fantastic manager but this is definitely something he needs to adapt to because it can be too easy to nullify his set up if you commit to doing what Preston did yesterday. And as we saw last week with Boro putting them to the sword 4-0 it's not an impossible tactic to overcome |  | | |
| If you were a town player on 08:35 - Feb 1 with 194 views | Churchman |
| If you were a town player on 08:10 - Feb 1 by BouncebackIpswich |
I think Frimmers has a point in that KM seems to be fearful of playing these types of teams, it does come across in how he talks about these kind of games, it makes it difficult when the opponents defend deep type of comments he makes regularly .
I think the fear is because he knows that his system struggles against it and he's never been able to figure out an effective way of countering it.
That fearfulness and over respect for teams that frankly Town should be putting away comfortably and over apprehension of a game where we know we're going to be facing a defensive side probably does transmit to the players in a sense and reduces their confidence.
McKenna is a fantastic manager but this is definitely something he needs to adapt to because it can be too easy to nullify his set up if you commit to doing what Preston did yesterday. And as we saw last week with Boro putting them to the sword 4-0 it's not an impossible tactic to overcome |
I think fear is the wrong word. I don’t think it’s over respect or lack of confidence either.
Cautious? Unsure how to break through massed defence? Whatever the wording is, breaking through teams that mass defend and play Rorkes Drift backs to the wall, heroic defending, chucking it all in as teams seem to have done this season is obviously a problem he/they are struggling with.
I think team selection is a bit of a head scratcher too. For me a player like Cajuste in the weakest area of the team was strange. He’s a big bloke, but let’s be honest you are not going to worry too much about the consequences of piling into him and because most of the time he plays at walking pace he’s not going anywhere either.
I was amazed he didn’t start with Taylor, who is at least combative albeit limited, or ny preference - Neil. I can only assume the latter in not fit because what was to lose? If he struggled first game, he could always be replaced with Taylor or Cajuste later in the game when Preston tired.
Back to the point, I never pay the slightest attention to what McKenna says in press conferences. He’s pretty guarded and very clued on how to manage those interviews. Far better than Cook who everybody knew might blow up or Keane who might clobber somebody and was always good for a sound bite.
So what McKenna goes on about is rarely challengeable and rarely important, bar injury updates and they’re not always right. The players are not that thick and know it and even mirror it. I suspect what is said behind closed doors, dressing room etc is very different. |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 08:36 - Feb 1 with 190 views | bsw72 |
| If you were a town player on 08:10 - Feb 1 by BouncebackIpswich |
I think Frimmers has a point in that KM seems to be fearful of playing these types of teams, it does come across in how he talks about these kind of games, it makes it difficult when the opponents defend deep type of comments he makes regularly .
I think the fear is because he knows that his system struggles against it and he's never been able to figure out an effective way of countering it.
That fearfulness and over respect for teams that frankly Town should be putting away comfortably and over apprehension of a game where we know we're going to be facing a defensive side probably does transmit to the players in a sense and reduces their confidence.
McKenna is a fantastic manager but this is definitely something he needs to adapt to because it can be too easy to nullify his set up if you commit to doing what Preston did yesterday. And as we saw last week with Boro putting them to the sword 4-0 it's not an impossible tactic to overcome |
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| If you were a town player on 08:36 - Feb 1 with 203 views | bsw72 |
| If you were a town player on 08:10 - Feb 1 by BouncebackIpswich |
I think Frimmers has a point in that KM seems to be fearful of playing these types of teams, it does come across in how he talks about these kind of games, it makes it difficult when the opponents defend deep type of comments he makes regularly .
I think the fear is because he knows that his system struggles against it and he's never been able to figure out an effective way of countering it.
That fearfulness and over respect for teams that frankly Town should be putting away comfortably and over apprehension of a game where we know we're going to be facing a defensive side probably does transmit to the players in a sense and reduces their confidence.
McKenna is a fantastic manager but this is definitely something he needs to adapt to because it can be too easy to nullify his set up if you commit to doing what Preston did yesterday. And as we saw last week with Boro putting them to the sword 4-0 it's not an impossible tactic to overcome |
We repeatedly break down these sides only for poor finishing or individual mistakes to waste those chances. It’s certainly harder for us but there’s a reason why sides play like it against us, they are fearful of us rather than the other way round.
The fact people call out the problems we have with our strikers scoring their chances but also say we struggle to break these sides down shows they are not connecting the dots.
If we were unable to break these sides down, we would not be creating chances would we?
Yesterday we had at least 4 clear chances to score before the penalty and should have been out of sight.
Edit: As for Boro, PNE played a different formation against them, something which their manager called out during the week saying he would not make that mistake against us. Comparing our results is like comparing apples to oranges. [Post edited 1 Feb 8:40]
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| If you were a town player on 09:01 - Feb 1 with 128 views | BloomBlue |
Football teams go on bad runs and surprise surprise they stop that and have good runs.
That's football, they're human it's not a PlayStation game.
Preston actually have a good away record, they have only lost away 4 times (so far) which is as good as any team in the league. |  | | |
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