| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" 14:31 - Feb 1 with 823 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
the contents of the Epstein files should horrify you. The question then becomes "How kuch of it is true...." and "will there be repercussions?". Unfortunately the answer to the second question is "probably not!" and that is a sad indictment on all of us. [Post edited 1 Feb 15:26]
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:38 - Feb 1 with 753 views | Illinoisblue |
Although much of the files are accusations rather than proof of anything the sheer volume of the depravity alluded to is astonishing. A rich and powerful elite had their own island stocked with underage girls and did with them as they pleased. Anyone who thinks that didn’t happen… I have some magic beans to sell you.
Maybe some low level players will be punished - or more likely, will be disappeared - but will there be any real consequences for the big names involved? Probably not. Although interesting to see Starmer calling out Andrew. |  |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:38 - Feb 1 with 741 views | Scuzzer |
Wrong thread. Please move. |  |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:48 - Feb 1 with 673 views | Zx1988 |
| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:38 - Feb 1 by Illinoisblue |
Although much of the files are accusations rather than proof of anything the sheer volume of the depravity alluded to is astonishing. A rich and powerful elite had their own island stocked with underage girls and did with them as they pleased. Anyone who thinks that didn’t happen… I have some magic beans to sell you.
Maybe some low level players will be punished - or more likely, will be disappeared - but will there be any real consequences for the big names involved? Probably not. Although interesting to see Starmer calling out Andrew. |
It's the whole disappearing of people (and threats thereof) which blows my mind somewhat and, in a way, is facking terrifying.
To have the power and ability to get rid of these girls and, based on some comments, their families. That you can either do it so effectively that nobody ever twigs that there's something amiss or follows up on it, or that you're so powerful that you can shut down any investigation before it even starts.
Obviously you've got all the 'accidents' that have befallen opponents of Putin, but it makes you wonder if there's more to some of the stuff here in the UK that we *do* know about - the millionaires who've apparently abandoned their mansions overnight, leaving everything in situ, for instance. |  |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:55 - Feb 1 with 629 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:48 - Feb 1 by Zx1988 |
It's the whole disappearing of people (and threats thereof) which blows my mind somewhat and, in a way, is facking terrifying.
To have the power and ability to get rid of these girls and, based on some comments, their families. That you can either do it so effectively that nobody ever twigs that there's something amiss or follows up on it, or that you're so powerful that you can shut down any investigation before it even starts.
Obviously you've got all the 'accidents' that have befallen opponents of Putin, but it makes you wonder if there's more to some of the stuff here in the UK that we *do* know about - the millionaires who've apparently abandoned their mansions overnight, leaving everything in situ, for instance. |
Absolutely. Threats of murder to silence the girls that we know about from the victims themselves given in statements under oath. It’s blowing my mind too.
Noting the OP comments about much of the material being accusations and not all proven aside, just the type of people who were there should set alarm bells ringing. This fella popped up in the last batch of photos - no surprise as he was known about, but it reinforces that this was an industrial scale sex trafficking ring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
More smoke than there’d have been during the great fire of London. |  |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:57 - Feb 1 with 604 views | Zx1988 |
| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:55 - Feb 1 by Swansea_Blue |
Absolutely. Threats of murder to silence the girls that we know about from the victims themselves given in statements under oath. It’s blowing my mind too.
Noting the OP comments about much of the material being accusations and not all proven aside, just the type of people who were there should set alarm bells ringing. This fella popped up in the last batch of photos - no surprise as he was known about, but it reinforces that this was an industrial scale sex trafficking ring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
More smoke than there’d have been during the great fire of London. |
The fact that Mrs Zx and I are currently re-watching Line of Duty at the moment doesn't really help either. You watch that in the context of the current Epstein-related goings on, and suddenly it doesn't seem so fictional. | |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 15:03 - Feb 1 with 554 views | J2BLUE |
I know it seems easy to say with hindsight but Epstein was clearly a total weirdo. Just seems such an odd person. The painting of Clinton he had being a good example. Just everything about him seems like a red flag. |  |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 15:04 - Feb 1 with 556 views | BlueOura |
| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:38 - Feb 1 by Illinoisblue |
Although much of the files are accusations rather than proof of anything the sheer volume of the depravity alluded to is astonishing. A rich and powerful elite had their own island stocked with underage girls and did with them as they pleased. Anyone who thinks that didn’t happen… I have some magic beans to sell you.
Maybe some low level players will be punished - or more likely, will be disappeared - but will there be any real consequences for the big names involved? Probably not. Although interesting to see Starmer calling out Andrew. |
Remember when the 'conspiracy theorists' were roundly mocked for talking about this stuff 10 years ago. I wonder what else may turn out to be true.... |  | | |
| What team does he play for? (n/t) on 15:13 - Feb 1 with 519 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 15:23 - Feb 1 with 476 views | Dubtractor |
| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 15:04 - Feb 1 by BlueOura |
Remember when the 'conspiracy theorists' were roundly mocked for talking about this stuff 10 years ago. I wonder what else may turn out to be true.... |
This pops into my mind occasionally too. Maybe the tin foil hat wearers are the real truth tellers after all?! |  |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 15:53 - Feb 1 with 354 views | Zx1988 |
| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 15:23 - Feb 1 by Dubtractor |
This pops into my mind occasionally too. Maybe the tin foil hat wearers are the real truth tellers after all?! |
And, even more recently, those who suggested that Virginia Giuffre hadn't killed herself.
If you consider these various allegations that Epstein and his cabal were capable of disappearing people, it suddenly doesn't feel impossible that those pulling the strings (the same people currently doing such a stand-out job of keeping Ghislane Maxwell quiet) were able to silence her for good, and stop any potential investigation.
She'd gone for Prince Nonce, taken the hush money, and then made some further serious allegations (including having been violently taped by 'a famous prime minister') in her memoir. I can quite understand how she may have ended up being viewed as a very dangerous loose cannon.
In the context of her outspokenness etc., it feels very odd that no parting shots were made, safe in the knowledge that she wouldn't have to worry about repercussions. | |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 16:51 - Feb 1 with 209 views | bluelagos |
| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 14:57 - Feb 1 by Zx1988 |
The fact that Mrs Zx and I are currently re-watching Line of Duty at the moment doesn't really help either. You watch that in the context of the current Epstein-related goings on, and suddenly it doesn't seem so fictional. |
You know LoD is fictional right?
Very first episode, first scene a policeman refuses to go along with a cover up after his colleagues have botched up an operation and killed an innocent person.
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 17:04 - Feb 1 with 167 views | Bent_double |
| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 15:03 - Feb 1 by J2BLUE |
I know it seems easy to say with hindsight but Epstein was clearly a total weirdo. Just seems such an odd person. The painting of Clinton he had being a good example. Just everything about him seems like a red flag. |
How did he get so powerful, so influencial that seemly every rich/famous/political/royal person in the western world seems to have been involved with him in some way?
Did he just find out their deepest, darkest secrets/fantasies and allow them to play them out in real life in return for their subserviance to him? Or was he blackmailing them?
Why didn't anthing ever come out in the press in the years this was happening - ALL the press owners involved too?
Whatabout the tech billionaires of the past 20-odd years, they all in on this too? Not one of them, with billions in the bank, beholden to no-one, with their own private security, willing to tell the world whats been going on???
Not sure how it's got to this - maybe it's always been like this, but the world needs a proper reset somehow, just don't know how. |  |
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| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 17:21 - Feb 1 with 116 views | Dubtractor |
| If you believe the adage of "no smoke without fire" on 17:04 - Feb 1 by Bent_double |
How did he get so powerful, so influencial that seemly every rich/famous/political/royal person in the western world seems to have been involved with him in some way?
Did he just find out their deepest, darkest secrets/fantasies and allow them to play them out in real life in return for their subserviance to him? Or was he blackmailing them?
Why didn't anthing ever come out in the press in the years this was happening - ALL the press owners involved too?
Whatabout the tech billionaires of the past 20-odd years, they all in on this too? Not one of them, with billions in the bank, beholden to no-one, with their own private security, willing to tell the world whats been going on???
Not sure how it's got to this - maybe it's always been like this, but the world needs a proper reset somehow, just don't know how. |
Yeah, but poor people in boats. Or trans people.
They are the real enemy we need the media to make people angry about. | |
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