| Gorton and Denton By-election 19:20 - Feb 15 with 16454 views | gtsb1966 |
Greens odds on to win with Reform 2nd and Labour 3rd. Surely that would be the end of Starmer if that happened. One can only hope. I cant see some members of the party waiting for the annihilation in the May elections.
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:26 - Feb 27 with 900 views | Blueschev |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 09:08 - Feb 27 by RadioOrwell |
Yes I heard that.
Interviewer was ridiculous.
Asked him about leaflets in Urdu - Polanski tried to answer - got interrupted - bloke asked the same question.
Three times.
If the BBC are trying to defeat the Greens with that kind of thing it's absolutely not going to work. |
I would expect that should the Greens continue to rise in popularity there will be a media pile on similar to that against Corbyn. |  | | |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:32 - Feb 27 with 845 views | lowhouseblue |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:26 - Feb 27 by Blueschev |
I would expect that should the Greens continue to rise in popularity there will be a media pile on similar to that against Corbyn. |
yes their policies and previous positions will come under scrutiny. stuff that starts as a protest vote does eventually get tested against the same standards as other parties. are their policies credible, do their sums add up, is their leader fit to be prime minister. that's how democracy works. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:33 - Feb 27 with 862 views | vapour_trail |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:26 - Feb 27 by Blueschev |
I would expect that should the Greens continue to rise in popularity there will be a media pile on similar to that against Corbyn. |
The Lads on here have been on this for a little while now. |  |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:35 - Feb 27 with 839 views | RadioOrwell |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:32 - Feb 27 by lowhouseblue |
yes their policies and previous positions will come under scrutiny. stuff that starts as a protest vote does eventually get tested against the same standards as other parties. are their policies credible, do their sums add up, is their leader fit to be prime minister. that's how democracy works. |
When is the media pile on Reform going to start ? |  | | |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:38 - Feb 27 with 819 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:32 - Feb 27 by lowhouseblue |
yes their policies and previous positions will come under scrutiny. stuff that starts as a protest vote does eventually get tested against the same standards as other parties. are their policies credible, do their sums add up, is their leader fit to be prime minister. that's how democracy works. |
Do they use capital letters. |  | | |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:51 - Feb 27 with 767 views | positivity |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:26 - Feb 27 by Blueschev |
I would expect that should the Greens continue to rise in popularity there will be a media pile on similar to that against Corbyn. |
going to be tricky to call the greens anti-semitic given that they're the only major party to elect a jew as their current leader, so they'll need to find another angle |  |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:59 - Feb 27 with 715 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:51 - Feb 27 by positivity |
going to be tricky to call the greens anti-semitic given that they're the only major party to elect a jew as their current leader, so they'll need to find another angle |
Does that mean that its' tricky to call the Tories racist and misogynistic now as their current leader is a woman of colour? |  |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:02 - Feb 27 with 705 views | positivity |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:59 - Feb 27 by GlasgowBlue |
Does that mean that its' tricky to call the Tories racist and misogynistic now as their current leader is a woman of colour? |
yes it is, still incompetent and divisive though! | |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:13 - Feb 27 with 651 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:02 - Feb 27 by positivity |
yes it is, still incompetent and divisive though! |
I don't think it is tricky. A British political party should not be above scrutiny on concerns about antisemitism (however justified or unjustified those concerns are) on the basis that its leader is Jewish any more than the Tories should be above scrutiny on concerns about anti-black racism because its leader is black or Reform should be above scrutiny on concerns about Islamophobia just because their Chairman, Zia Yusuf, is a Muslim.
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:13 - Feb 27 with 639 views | lowhouseblue |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:35 - Feb 27 by RadioOrwell |
When is the media pile on Reform going to start ? |
what media do you read? have you really not seen their policies consistently and widely dissected? you need to get out of your right wing media bubble. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:20 - Feb 27 with 610 views | RadioOrwell |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:13 - Feb 27 by lowhouseblue |
what media do you read? have you really not seen their policies consistently and widely dissected? you need to get out of your right wing media bubble. |
'your right wing media bubble'
You're funny. | | | |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:26 - Feb 27 with 595 views | NthQldITFC |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:13 - Feb 27 by GlasgowBlue |
I don't think it is tricky. A British political party should not be above scrutiny on concerns about antisemitism (however justified or unjustified those concerns are) on the basis that its leader is Jewish any more than the Tories should be above scrutiny on concerns about anti-black racism because its leader is black or Reform should be above scrutiny on concerns about Islamophobia just because their Chairman, Zia Yusuf, is a Muslim.
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No political party should be above scrutiny on any issue.
There are many, many serious issues facing Britain and the world today of which antisemitism and Islamophobia are just two.
If concerns about one particular issue are more towards the unjustified end of your scale, making everything about that issue takes time and focus away from other more justified and serious issues, which makes for a really bad balance of effort. |  |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:28 - Feb 27 with 587 views | positivity |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:13 - Feb 27 by GlasgowBlue |
I don't think it is tricky. A British political party should not be above scrutiny on concerns about antisemitism (however justified or unjustified those concerns are) on the basis that its leader is Jewish any more than the Tories should be above scrutiny on concerns about anti-black racism because its leader is black or Reform should be above scrutiny on concerns about Islamophobia just because their Chairman, Zia Yusuf, is a Muslim.
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but the labour anti-semitism was almost entirely because of the leader's so-called friends, the press will need a new angle as it's going to look foolish if a predominately non-jewish press calls a jew antisemitic.
i can't see polanski going about complaining about people voting in "predominately jewish areas" a la farage | |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:50 - Feb 27 with 525 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:28 - Feb 27 by positivity |
but the labour anti-semitism was almost entirely because of the leader's so-called friends, the press will need a new angle as it's going to look foolish if a predominately non-jewish press calls a jew antisemitic.
i can't see polanski going about complaining about people voting in "predominately jewish areas" a la farage |
"but the labour anti-semitism was almost entirely because of the leader's so-called friends"
And there was me thinking that the EHRC carried out a statutory investigation into antisemitism in the Labour party and found them guilty of discrimination Jewish members with evidence that included Labour candidates posting holocaust denial, threats to pregnant female Labour MP's and their unborn children, members posting things like "Hitler was right" and "my man Hitler" on social media amongst other examples. | |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:54 - Feb 27 with 505 views | positivity |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:50 - Feb 27 by GlasgowBlue |
"but the labour anti-semitism was almost entirely because of the leader's so-called friends"
And there was me thinking that the EHRC carried out a statutory investigation into antisemitism in the Labour party and found them guilty of discrimination Jewish members with evidence that included Labour candidates posting holocaust denial, threats to pregnant female Labour MP's and their unborn children, members posting things like "Hitler was right" and "my man Hitler" on social media amongst other examples. |
not happened with polanski has it? the press will need to find a new angle | |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:02 - Feb 27 with 477 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 11:54 - Feb 27 by positivity |
not happened with polanski has it? the press will need to find a new angle |
There have been some worrying instances in the Green party recently.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/m
Doesn't mean there are widespread issues as there were in Corbyn's Labour party but it isn't helpful to shit down the debate using the Gree leader's ethno/religious background and more than it would using Badenoch's skin colour to shut down debate about racism in the Tory party.
Your use of the word 'angle' is also worrying, as it suggests that the Labour antisemitism issues were not real and just a tool used by the press to attack Labour. | |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:06 - Feb 27 with 467 views | positivity |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:02 - Feb 27 by GlasgowBlue |
There have been some worrying instances in the Green party recently.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/m
Doesn't mean there are widespread issues as there were in Corbyn's Labour party but it isn't helpful to shit down the debate using the Gree leader's ethno/religious background and more than it would using Badenoch's skin colour to shut down debate about racism in the Tory party.
Your use of the word 'angle' is also worrying, as it suggests that the Labour antisemitism issues were not real and just a tool used by the press to attack Labour. |
i believe there were real issues in the labour party, i say angle as the press never pressed the issue of islamophobia within the tory or reform party in anything like the same way
it's one rule for one wing of politics, one for the other with our billionaire owned media | |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:31 - Feb 27 with 402 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 08:47 - Feb 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I tried my best to convince Junior to be a plumber but the crazy young fool wouldn't listen and went with debt burdened nursing! And guess what there's no funding for jobs now, 60 graduates looking at less than 20 places when 4 years ago they were guaranteed work in Leeds upon graduation when applying. |
In light of the above something about this article doesn't add up....
https://www.theguardian.com/so |  |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:36 - Feb 27 with 383 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:02 - Feb 27 by GlasgowBlue |
There have been some worrying instances in the Green party recently.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/m
Doesn't mean there are widespread issues as there were in Corbyn's Labour party but it isn't helpful to shit down the debate using the Gree leader's ethno/religious background and more than it would using Badenoch's skin colour to shut down debate about racism in the Tory party.
Your use of the word 'angle' is also worrying, as it suggests that the Labour antisemitism issues were not real and just a tool used by the press to attack Labour. |
All about proporionality really.
Examples can always be found | | | |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:36 - Feb 27 with 374 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:02 - Feb 27 by GlasgowBlue |
There have been some worrying instances in the Green party recently.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/m
Doesn't mean there are widespread issues as there were in Corbyn's Labour party but it isn't helpful to shit down the debate using the Gree leader's ethno/religious background and more than it would using Badenoch's skin colour to shut down debate about racism in the Tory party.
Your use of the word 'angle' is also worrying, as it suggests that the Labour antisemitism issues were not real and just a tool used by the press to attack Labour. |
And we're off!! | |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:42 - Feb 27 with 340 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:36 - Feb 27 by reusersfreekicks |
All about proporionality really.
Examples can always be found |
Indeed. And I haven't seen anybody suggesting the Greens are having anything like the issues that Labour did when they were found guilty by the EHRC. In this election it was the Reform Campaign manager who had to step down over allegations of antisemitism.
But the point remains that that a British political party should not be above scrutiny on concerns about antisemitism on the basis that its leader is Jewish anymore than the Conservative Party should be above scrutiny on concerns about anti-black racism because its leader is black. | |
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 12:53 - Feb 27 with 289 views | eireblue |
I should hope so.
I am sure the Green Party don’t want people with antisemitic views in their ranks, and will want people with the intelligence and ability to express themselves, and act clearly without prejudice and bias.
So when incidents are found the quicker it is rooted out the better.
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| Gorton and Denton By-election on 13:29 - Feb 27 with 223 views | leitrimblue |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:26 - Feb 27 by Blueschev |
I would expect that should the Greens continue to rise in popularity there will be a media pile on similar to that against Corbyn. |
It's gonna be the drug thing innit.
Rather then having a grown up discussion about addiction and the devastation it causes in communities and attempting to formulate a plan to improve the situation its gonna be the Greens are going to force every adult and child to mainline Crack.
Yer just know it |  | | |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 13:36 - Feb 27 with 193 views | Blueschev |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 13:29 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue |
It's gonna be the drug thing innit.
Rather then having a grown up discussion about addiction and the devastation it causes in communities and attempting to formulate a plan to improve the situation its gonna be the Greens are going to force every adult and child to mainline Crack.
Yer just know it |
They'll attack them on any and everything. I saw an article in the Spectator today warning that they're morphing in to an Islamic Party. | | | |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 13:52 - Feb 27 with 149 views | Kievthegreat |
| Gorton and Denton By-election on 13:36 - Feb 27 by Blueschev |
They'll attack them on any and everything. I saw an article in the Spectator today warning that they're morphing in to an Islamic Party. |
Bloody LGBTQ++++++ fundamentalist woke Islamist liberal snowflake terrorists! That's what they are! |  | | |
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