| McKenna and the club 10:37 - Feb 22 with 5414 views | Nutkins_Return |
I can be guilty of letting a bad result ruin a weekend etc but I try to keep some balance and as someone else said in the champ the next game to put it right comes fast.
What I hated yesterday and recently is the reactionary anti McKenna stuff that has crept in as well as some of the normal nonsense player scapegoats etc. I'm not talking about when people can have a balanced criticism of the manager or the team. It's the "he's got to go", "two years of failure", "mcKenna out - he lucked out and it was all Cook's work that got the promotions" - a favourite
I don't want us just to be another club jumping from Manager to Manager. McKenna is a class manager and also a class human being who has helped transform this club. He has invested himself into the club completely, he's brought a fantastic culture and mentality to the football club. As a football club I honestly think we have moved forward every season (infrastructure, youths, squad etc) albeit being in a different league brings a massive challenge for him to keep things cohesive.
This guy has done so much for us and brought so much happiness to the club (my kids couldn't have enjoyed those promotions more! And they got to see us have fantastic memories after years of bland nothing really). He works harder then anyone and that is hard work he's doing for us. The table adjusted for games we are realistically 3rd. With almost a new team. It's hardly outright disaster. We can still make autos. If not playoffs and if ultimately we don't go up whilst disappointing we have a first opportunity to build on a more settled team (Like Cov, Like Boro and like Sunderland did). We have a team to enjoy going into games as favourites regularly. Whilst not always clicking it's a team that play football the right way.
Let's try and manage our frustrations a bit better. Let's find a bit more respect in our club and it's people and each other. Let's get behind this team again and let's pick them up and then let them pick us up. It's a fantastic football club. Our fans did help pick it up and let's do it again FFS! |  |
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| McKenna and the club on 10:49 - Feb 22 with 3366 views | FrimleyBlue |
My concern is solely aimed at Ashton and his recruitment team
What is the actual plan?
Last summer window it was a terrible attempt at recruiting for the prem.
The recent summer window we heard all about the types of player we needed but didn't seem to get anyone matching that description.
We then had Jan where we get told our manager said no to a list of strikers.. how bad was that list?
KM imo Is a head coach. That's fine. But the tools he's been given are terrible. Not as in individual papers. They all have their own talents. But as a team it does not work to the highest level achievable.
You can trust KM to continue being KM. The pain is knowing ashton and his merry men are rubbing their hands for another summer of chucking money at clubs. |  |
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| McKenna and the club on 10:57 - Feb 22 with 3329 views | boysof1981 |
| McKenna and the club on 10:49 - Feb 22 by FrimleyBlue |
My concern is solely aimed at Ashton and his recruitment team
What is the actual plan?
Last summer window it was a terrible attempt at recruiting for the prem.
The recent summer window we heard all about the types of player we needed but didn't seem to get anyone matching that description.
We then had Jan where we get told our manager said no to a list of strikers.. how bad was that list?
KM imo Is a head coach. That's fine. But the tools he's been given are terrible. Not as in individual papers. They all have their own talents. But as a team it does not work to the highest level achievable.
You can trust KM to continue being KM. The pain is knowing ashton and his merry men are rubbing their hands for another summer of chucking money at clubs. |
Ashton is so far up his own backside he can’t the issues the club has. He has too much power and needs reigning in by the owners or at least someone above him to oversee matters. Personally like to see him gone, the crap when we were getting back to back promotions, the fist pumping the crowd, the Brent-esque interviews were cringy.
Think he and McKenna will be relieved of their duties after this season, hopefully. | | | |
| McKenna and the club on 11:00 - Feb 22 with 3311 views | Mark |
| McKenna and the club on 10:49 - Feb 22 by FrimleyBlue |
My concern is solely aimed at Ashton and his recruitment team
What is the actual plan?
Last summer window it was a terrible attempt at recruiting for the prem.
The recent summer window we heard all about the types of player we needed but didn't seem to get anyone matching that description.
We then had Jan where we get told our manager said no to a list of strikers.. how bad was that list?
KM imo Is a head coach. That's fine. But the tools he's been given are terrible. Not as in individual papers. They all have their own talents. But as a team it does not work to the highest level achievable.
You can trust KM to continue being KM. The pain is knowing ashton and his merry men are rubbing their hands for another summer of chucking money at clubs. |
Looking through the players on our substitutes' bench I counted £70m in fees / free commitments on promotion. £70m!! Questions have to be asked about recruitment. [Post edited 22 Feb 11:01]
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| McKenna and the club on 11:14 - Feb 22 with 3245 views | Nutkins_Return |
| McKenna and the club on 10:49 - Feb 22 by FrimleyBlue |
My concern is solely aimed at Ashton and his recruitment team
What is the actual plan?
Last summer window it was a terrible attempt at recruiting for the prem.
The recent summer window we heard all about the types of player we needed but didn't seem to get anyone matching that description.
We then had Jan where we get told our manager said no to a list of strikers.. how bad was that list?
KM imo Is a head coach. That's fine. But the tools he's been given are terrible. Not as in individual papers. They all have their own talents. But as a team it does not work to the highest level achievable.
You can trust KM to continue being KM. The pain is knowing ashton and his merry men are rubbing their hands for another summer of chucking money at clubs. |
I don't think it was a terrible attempt. It was always going to be exceptionally difficult following back to back and building a prem team from the base we had. Some calculated gambles didn't come off but we still had some big sales into the club on the back of it. I think we confuse not staying up (which would have been an unbelievable achievement) with failure.
Again this summer it's but a really difficult scenario. The club are trying to balance a ready squad with investing in the future (Egeli, Mcateer, Runham, Fletcher etc etc).
The reality is it we started next season with the exact same squad we will be better.
Last season we all wanted to be more competitive. The reality was that would have been massively overachieving to stay up. As I say Sunderland have got it bang on. But it's an oversimplification . Their base was far more concrete and a higher level.
As I say I think some thought out opinion and criticism is fine. I don't agree with everything you are saying at all but it's respectful enough until the last sentence. Ashton deserves respect despite his sound bites and cliches. He's built and is building proper football club and one that serves the community. It really isn't just a out a season or the odd poor signing.
"Ashton and his merry men" is however completely out of order and lacking respect for what they have done for this club. Blows my mind actually. | |
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| McKenna and the club on 11:29 - Feb 22 with 3170 views | nrb1985 |
| McKenna and the club on 10:49 - Feb 22 by FrimleyBlue |
My concern is solely aimed at Ashton and his recruitment team
What is the actual plan?
Last summer window it was a terrible attempt at recruiting for the prem.
The recent summer window we heard all about the types of player we needed but didn't seem to get anyone matching that description.
We then had Jan where we get told our manager said no to a list of strikers.. how bad was that list?
KM imo Is a head coach. That's fine. But the tools he's been given are terrible. Not as in individual papers. They all have their own talents. But as a team it does not work to the highest level achievable.
You can trust KM to continue being KM. The pain is knowing ashton and his merry men are rubbing their hands for another summer of chucking money at clubs. |
They have had one bad year in four and a half on the recruitment side. Before that, this administration had got two promotions and, a respectable enough 20pt + hall in the premier league and then sold Delap and Hutchinson for more profit than you could ever have imagine possible when they took over a team in mid table in league 1.
Nobody can be as smart, as slick or have such an unblemished track record as you Frimley Blue... | | | |
| McKenna and the club on 11:39 - Feb 22 with 3110 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna and the club on 11:14 - Feb 22 by Nutkins_Return |
I don't think it was a terrible attempt. It was always going to be exceptionally difficult following back to back and building a prem team from the base we had. Some calculated gambles didn't come off but we still had some big sales into the club on the back of it. I think we confuse not staying up (which would have been an unbelievable achievement) with failure.
Again this summer it's but a really difficult scenario. The club are trying to balance a ready squad with investing in the future (Egeli, Mcateer, Runham, Fletcher etc etc).
The reality is it we started next season with the exact same squad we will be better.
Last season we all wanted to be more competitive. The reality was that would have been massively overachieving to stay up. As I say Sunderland have got it bang on. But it's an oversimplification . Their base was far more concrete and a higher level.
As I say I think some thought out opinion and criticism is fine. I don't agree with everything you are saying at all but it's respectful enough until the last sentence. Ashton deserves respect despite his sound bites and cliches. He's built and is building proper football club and one that serves the community. It really isn't just a out a season or the odd poor signing.
"Ashton and his merry men" is however completely out of order and lacking respect for what they have done for this club. Blows my mind actually. |
It was a terrible. I said back then it wasn't a window with transfer safety in mind. I stand by that. That's fine. If they felt it was to difficult a task then it made sense to recruit for the season after. But that was also a problem.. they recruited off the back of a data sheet without imo actually looking ahead to how it would work as unit.
You call it lack of respect. That's fine your opinion. I don't have to like Ashton. He's good at some things. Talking is one of them. But his actions I.e making himself ceo and chairman imo shows he loves the Ashton show and not what's best for the club. He should be accountable to someone other than the owners where he can just show them a balance sheet to show how great things are. Oleary spoke of the tines he had to slow Ashton down. There's no one around to do that now. That's an issue.
People say you can't listen to BC experience. Why? They've lived those years. And we're seeing it ourselves when it comes to highly paid transfer mistakes. Look at Johnson.. to expensive to move on?
Having said that. You can't ignore the good things he and his team have done. For which as Town fans we are grateful for as the club itself looks better and the training ground looks amazing. And sure Ashton was involved in bringing KM in. So of course delighted to with that and thankful. But Ashton loves a spending spree. He's done it all clubs and he's done it with town. In one aspect it's protecting the future. On the other its risking it too. | |
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| McKenna and the club on 11:43 - Feb 22 with 3083 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna and the club on 11:29 - Feb 22 by nrb1985 |
They have had one bad year in four and a half on the recruitment side. Before that, this administration had got two promotions and, a respectable enough 20pt + hall in the premier league and then sold Delap and Hutchinson for more profit than you could ever have imagine possible when they took over a team in mid table in league 1.
Nobody can be as smart, as slick or have such an unblemished track record as you Frimley Blue... |
Correct things were better when oleary was in charge. | |
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| McKenna and the club on 11:44 - Feb 22 with 3091 views | bazza |
| McKenna and the club on 10:49 - Feb 22 by FrimleyBlue |
My concern is solely aimed at Ashton and his recruitment team
What is the actual plan?
Last summer window it was a terrible attempt at recruiting for the prem.
The recent summer window we heard all about the types of player we needed but didn't seem to get anyone matching that description.
We then had Jan where we get told our manager said no to a list of strikers.. how bad was that list?
KM imo Is a head coach. That's fine. But the tools he's been given are terrible. Not as in individual papers. They all have their own talents. But as a team it does not work to the highest level achievable.
You can trust KM to continue being KM. The pain is knowing ashton and his merry men are rubbing their hands for another summer of chucking money at clubs. |
To be fair, when we signed Delap, O’Shea, greaves, Phillips, cajuste Clarke we were all pretty over the moon at the time, some have been a success and some have been a let down, this season kipre matusiwa furlong azon Nunez mehmetti Neil all good signings, I’d say overall the recruitment has been pretty good since Ashton arrived, well overall 60-70% success rate, just this season with so many changes we are struggling to find a consistent winning combination. I’d agree the striker situation has been a problem, but akpom and azon were good signings on paper. |  | | |
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| McKenna and the club on 12:04 - Feb 22 with 2989 views | billlm |
| McKenna and the club on 11:00 - Feb 22 by Mark |
Looking through the players on our substitutes' bench I counted £70m in fees / free commitments on promotion. £70m!! Questions have to be asked about recruitment. [Post edited 22 Feb 11:01]
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Nothing wrong with a strong bench,
But they all compliment each other to much nothing outstandingly different for that amount of money,
So it's like for like and teams know how to cope with it,
On a footnote TAYLOR actually done something different and ran at Wrexham through the middle and look what that yielded I'm sure he's been put back in his box for that, |  | | |
| McKenna and the club on 12:06 - Feb 22 with 2986 views | grow_our_own |
| McKenna and the club on 11:44 - Feb 22 by bazza |
To be fair, when we signed Delap, O’Shea, greaves, Phillips, cajuste Clarke we were all pretty over the moon at the time, some have been a success and some have been a let down, this season kipre matusiwa furlong azon Nunez mehmetti Neil all good signings, I’d say overall the recruitment has been pretty good since Ashton arrived, well overall 60-70% success rate, just this season with so many changes we are struggling to find a consistent winning combination. I’d agree the striker situation has been a problem, but akpom and azon were good signings on paper. |
But you'd expect big-signing hit rate to be higher than 60%. Let's say > 5m ones since summer 2024:
Hits:
Clarke,
Jaden,
Delap
Matusiwa
O'Shea
Misses (so far at least):
Egeli,
McAteer,
Greaves,
Muric,
Ogbene
Szmodics
I'm excluding Hutchinson bc he was a fee-free loanee initially. Known quantity and no-brainer when we splashed out to sign him.
Could argue we were slightly unlucky with Ogbene suffering a top-flight career-ending injury, but that's a 45% hit rate for big new signings. Pretty woeful. We're not a club-size that can afford to waste treasure. [Post edited 22 Feb 12:16]
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| McKenna and the club on 12:12 - Feb 22 with 2918 views | nrb1985 |
| McKenna and the club on 11:43 - Feb 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Correct things were better when oleary was in charge. |
If you think O’ Leary was in charge at any stage then I’m not sure you’ve fully grasped how a chairman/chief exec dynamic works…
But then not really understanding stuff is your general MO isn’t it. [Post edited 22 Feb 12:15]
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| McKenna and the club on 12:31 - Feb 22 with 2838 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| McKenna and the club on 12:06 - Feb 22 by grow_our_own |
But you'd expect big-signing hit rate to be higher than 60%. Let's say > 5m ones since summer 2024:
Hits:
Clarke,
Jaden,
Delap
Matusiwa
O'Shea
Misses (so far at least):
Egeli,
McAteer,
Greaves,
Muric,
Ogbene
Szmodics
I'm excluding Hutchinson bc he was a fee-free loanee initially. Known quantity and no-brainer when we splashed out to sign him.
Could argue we were slightly unlucky with Ogbene suffering a top-flight career-ending injury, but that's a 45% hit rate for big new signings. Pretty woeful. We're not a club-size that can afford to waste treasure. [Post edited 22 Feb 12:16]
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You can't exclude Hutchinson. He was a player with a reputation at Reserve land Youth International level before our recruitment team identified him and our Coaching staff worked with him. Which makes it a 50% hit rate. | | | |
| McKenna and the club on 12:37 - Feb 22 with 2825 views | keighleyblue |
| McKenna and the club on 10:57 - Feb 22 by boysof1981 |
Ashton is so far up his own backside he can’t the issues the club has. He has too much power and needs reigning in by the owners or at least someone above him to oversee matters. Personally like to see him gone, the crap when we were getting back to back promotions, the fist pumping the crowd, the Brent-esque interviews were cringy.
Think he and McKenna will be relieved of their duties after this season, hopefully. |
This is up there with the overcoached thread from yesterday..
It's the same people who've had enough of experts.
just amazed at the off the scale stupidity and lack of grace. |  | | |
| McKenna and the club on 12:41 - Feb 22 with 2789 views | pointofblue |
| McKenna and the club on 12:31 - Feb 22 by ArnoldMoorhen |
You can't exclude Hutchinson. He was a player with a reputation at Reserve land Youth International level before our recruitment team identified him and our Coaching staff worked with him. Which makes it a 50% hit rate. |
Even a 50% hit rate is pretty woeful. | |
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| McKenna and the club on 12:43 - Feb 22 with 2779 views | billlm |
| McKenna and the club on 12:12 - Feb 22 by nrb1985 |
If you think O’ Leary was in charge at any stage then I’m not sure you’ve fully grasped how a chairman/chief exec dynamic works…
But then not really understanding stuff is your general MO isn’t it. [Post edited 22 Feb 12:15]
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Having Ashton combining two rolls gives him to much control, very conflicting in business, | | | |
| McKenna and the club on 12:43 - Feb 22 with 2783 views | nrb1985 |
| McKenna and the club on 12:06 - Feb 22 by grow_our_own |
But you'd expect big-signing hit rate to be higher than 60%. Let's say > 5m ones since summer 2024:
Hits:
Clarke,
Jaden,
Delap
Matusiwa
O'Shea
Misses (so far at least):
Egeli,
McAteer,
Greaves,
Muric,
Ogbene
Szmodics
I'm excluding Hutchinson bc he was a fee-free loanee initially. Known quantity and no-brainer when we splashed out to sign him.
Could argue we were slightly unlucky with Ogbene suffering a top-flight career-ending injury, but that's a 45% hit rate for big new signings. Pretty woeful. We're not a club-size that can afford to waste treasure. [Post edited 22 Feb 12:16]
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Why would you expect that?
Have a look at some of the sh1t that’s been signed by Chelsea and United for billions in the last few years for example.
I was at the Chelsea game yday and the people I was sat with counted 6 successful signings in since Abramovich left - and they’ve spent 1.5bn…
Not as easy as it looks which is why I took offense to dear old Frimley blue, a man not known for his prowess or competence to put it mildly, calling Ashton his bunch of “merry men”.
I also think looking at our transfer record in the last year only is a stupid exercise. If you want a proper discussion then you should look at the entire sample size. Which still stacks up ok, despite some high profile misses of late. | | | |
| McKenna and the club on 12:44 - Feb 22 with 2780 views | nrb1985 |
| McKenna and the club on 12:43 - Feb 22 by billlm |
Having Ashton combining two rolls gives him to much control, very conflicting in business, |
That’s not the point that was raised or my subsequent repost.
Re read what was said. | | | |
| McKenna and the club on 12:45 - Feb 22 with 2782 views | Nutkins_Return |
| McKenna and the club on 11:39 - Feb 22 by FrimleyBlue |
It was a terrible. I said back then it wasn't a window with transfer safety in mind. I stand by that. That's fine. If they felt it was to difficult a task then it made sense to recruit for the season after. But that was also a problem.. they recruited off the back of a data sheet without imo actually looking ahead to how it would work as unit.
You call it lack of respect. That's fine your opinion. I don't have to like Ashton. He's good at some things. Talking is one of them. But his actions I.e making himself ceo and chairman imo shows he loves the Ashton show and not what's best for the club. He should be accountable to someone other than the owners where he can just show them a balance sheet to show how great things are. Oleary spoke of the tines he had to slow Ashton down. There's no one around to do that now. That's an issue.
People say you can't listen to BC experience. Why? They've lived those years. And we're seeing it ourselves when it comes to highly paid transfer mistakes. Look at Johnson.. to expensive to move on?
Having said that. You can't ignore the good things he and his team have done. For which as Town fans we are grateful for as the club itself looks better and the training ground looks amazing. And sure Ashton was involved in bringing KM in. So of course delighted to with that and thankful. But Ashton loves a spending spree. He's done it all clubs and he's done it with town. In one aspect it's protecting the future. On the other its risking it too. |
I honestly think you must project and confuse 'what Frimmers wants' with what is fair.
What is actually happening is McKenna and Ashton are being shit at because of the unrealistic expectations they have raised through success. To a degree that's inevitable when you get some success. And we all want us to kick on and we are. But it doesn't mean it will happen and go exactly to plan every season. Football isn't like that. The best funded and best squad does not always go up. There are so many elements - quality, coaching, recruitment, cohesion, settled team, competition for places, positive support and momentum, a bit of luck and so on and so forth. | |
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| McKenna and the club on 12:51 - Feb 22 with 2742 views | cressi |
Would you say the last two seasons have been good.
Yes fantastic to get to the premier league but one home win all season in the Premiership is fairly shocking. Personally has McKenna learned anything if we were to go up or would we get more of the same I'm not so sure. | | | |
| McKenna and the club on 12:51 - Feb 22 with 2743 views | nrb1985 |
| McKenna and the club on 12:41 - Feb 22 by pointofblue |
Even a 50% hit rate is pretty woeful. |
In the context of what?
If you think woeful then right off the top of your head you must have at least a dozen clubs in mind that have at least a 75% hit rate.
So off you go? | | | |
| McKenna and the club on 12:55 - Feb 22 with 2701 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna and the club on 12:12 - Feb 22 by nrb1985 |
If you think O’ Leary was in charge at any stage then I’m not sure you’ve fully grasped how a chairman/chief exec dynamic works…
But then not really understanding stuff is your general MO isn’t it. [Post edited 22 Feb 12:15]
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Lol sure I have zero knowledge of chairmanship. Lol | |
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| McKenna and the club on 12:56 - Feb 22 with 2714 views | Churchman |
| McKenna and the club on 12:06 - Feb 22 by grow_our_own |
But you'd expect big-signing hit rate to be higher than 60%. Let's say > 5m ones since summer 2024:
Hits:
Clarke,
Jaden,
Delap
Matusiwa
O'Shea
Misses (so far at least):
Egeli,
McAteer,
Greaves,
Muric,
Ogbene
Szmodics
I'm excluding Hutchinson bc he was a fee-free loanee initially. Known quantity and no-brainer when we splashed out to sign him.
Could argue we were slightly unlucky with Ogbene suffering a top-flight career-ending injury, but that's a 45% hit rate for big new signings. Pretty woeful. We're not a club-size that can afford to waste treasure. [Post edited 22 Feb 12:16]
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Is Nunez on loan? I thought he was contracted - my mistake. Good use of the £5m line because that knocks out Mehmeti and Furlong. Excluding Hutchinson was good too because it helps with your percentage hit rate of 45%.
Good use of the words waste and treasure too. Makes it sound all the more dramatic. Sort of up there with the post that said we’d wasted £200m which happily ignored money received from sales and valued the whole squad at zero.
Personally, I don’t like branding players as a failure or a success until they move on. If I think of say Jackson and Donacien they were failures. They were even bomb squaded by, to some the new messiah responsible for two promotions, Cook yet they both finished serving this club well.
As for Frimley’s take on Ashton it’s very much the Bristol City knuckle dragger line from 4 years ago. They’ll be happy to read it. Personally, I don’t know how the club is structured to any degree, unlike many on here. However, I doubt Ashton is on anything other than a very short lead. He’s hinted at that in the past. O’Leary spent less than a couple of days a week at the club. His input fell away after his main task of negotiating for the purchase of the club.
However, like recruitment, there is no point in Ashton, McKenna or the tea lady explaining how anything works because the dismals have made their mind up.
In conclusion, has our recruitment been a universal success? No. Of course not. Has it been a total failure? No. As always, some good some puzzling. In other words, same as at most clubs.
It might help if people realised the club is trying to operate at a different level to previously. It was wrecked by Evans and bought for £40m. It’s worth a little more than that now and the income and expenditure on everything is at a completely different level. Add to that general player transfer fee inflation and the upper end of the game is a totally different place now to five years ago. And so are we. |  | | |
| McKenna and the club on 13:00 - Feb 22 with 2694 views | RetroBlue |
| McKenna and the club on 10:49 - Feb 22 by FrimleyBlue |
My concern is solely aimed at Ashton and his recruitment team
What is the actual plan?
Last summer window it was a terrible attempt at recruiting for the prem.
The recent summer window we heard all about the types of player we needed but didn't seem to get anyone matching that description.
We then had Jan where we get told our manager said no to a list of strikers.. how bad was that list?
KM imo Is a head coach. That's fine. But the tools he's been given are terrible. Not as in individual papers. They all have their own talents. But as a team it does not work to the highest level achievable.
You can trust KM to continue being KM. The pain is knowing ashton and his merry men are rubbing their hands for another summer of chucking money at clubs. |
Ashton for me, is close to replicating what he did at Bristol City. He's very good at spending cash, (other people's cash), and not necessarily getting value for money. I think hes a bit up his own arse and full of self importance. Interestingly I heard a Town fsn leaving Wrexham's ground yesterday, referring to him as "Mr Ashton FC". I think there's a lot of truth in that.
I dont think theres any other senior management now based at this Club other than Ashton himself, and so day to day Ashton does as he pleases. The recruitment leaves a lot to be desired in my humble opinion. Too much money paid for some average players and money wasted. Poor decisions ( jointly McKenna/ Ashton) regarding players we've let go and players we've brought in as proported " better" players. Very few of these "better" players are showing thst to be the case on a regular basis.
Im not saying theres no accountability because hopefully the owners ghave got an eye on things. But, they are relying literally on one person to run this club now. On one level it could be miscondtrude as a dictatorship.
I suggest this squad isn't better than then double winning squad when an 11 is put out on mstch day. Theres more to being a successful "team" than having individuals who possess better skill sets.... or if it is then McKenna isn't showing an ability to get the best out of them individually or more importantly, collectively eg a " team".
Ashton wont be sacking McKenna any time soon, or probably at all, ( unless his own position / performance cones into question by the owners). Mcjenna did ok in his first two seasons here, but id duggest he has badly faltered over the last two seasons given the level of backing he has had, and you have to ask the question what other club would keep a manager that has had this level of backing and yet has failed to deliver over the last two seasons?
Clubs and managers with far less backing are doing better than Mckenna. It is not disloyal to pose questions of those running the club. It is and should be seen as the right and proper thing to do by any fan. If we dont or are vilified for doing so, where is the accountability for those that run this club? |  |
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| McKenna and the club on 13:11 - Feb 22 with 2663 views | nrb1985 |
| McKenna and the club on 13:00 - Feb 22 by RetroBlue |
Ashton for me, is close to replicating what he did at Bristol City. He's very good at spending cash, (other people's cash), and not necessarily getting value for money. I think hes a bit up his own arse and full of self importance. Interestingly I heard a Town fsn leaving Wrexham's ground yesterday, referring to him as "Mr Ashton FC". I think there's a lot of truth in that.
I dont think theres any other senior management now based at this Club other than Ashton himself, and so day to day Ashton does as he pleases. The recruitment leaves a lot to be desired in my humble opinion. Too much money paid for some average players and money wasted. Poor decisions ( jointly McKenna/ Ashton) regarding players we've let go and players we've brought in as proported " better" players. Very few of these "better" players are showing thst to be the case on a regular basis.
Im not saying theres no accountability because hopefully the owners ghave got an eye on things. But, they are relying literally on one person to run this club now. On one level it could be miscondtrude as a dictatorship.
I suggest this squad isn't better than then double winning squad when an 11 is put out on mstch day. Theres more to being a successful "team" than having individuals who possess better skill sets.... or if it is then McKenna isn't showing an ability to get the best out of them individually or more importantly, collectively eg a " team".
Ashton wont be sacking McKenna any time soon, or probably at all, ( unless his own position / performance cones into question by the owners). Mcjenna did ok in his first two seasons here, but id duggest he has badly faltered over the last two seasons given the level of backing he has had, and you have to ask the question what other club would keep a manager that has had this level of backing and yet has failed to deliver over the last two seasons?
Clubs and managers with far less backing are doing better than Mckenna. It is not disloyal to pose questions of those running the club. It is and should be seen as the right and proper thing to do by any fan. If we dont or are vilified for doing so, where is the accountability for those that run this club? |
I must have missed Bristol’s back to back promotions then.
Also, when you say spending other people’s money, do you think the chief exec should spend his own money on signings? | | | |
| He’s had one excellent season…. on 13:47 - Feb 22 with 2567 views | Bloots |
….one good season and one terrible season.
This season should really dictate the overall balance of his tenure here.
If we fail to get promoted with this squad it will be a poor season and I suspect he’ll (rightfully in my view) pay the ultimate price.
Obviously we hope it doesn’t come to that and we get through the play-off lottery.
He can then leave with his head held high. |  |
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