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Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 09:56 - Mar 9 by leitrimblue
So if I understand this correctly someone posted GSTK when Rangers scored in the Old Firm Derby then got upset when someone posted Up The Ra when Celtic scored
Amusing enough
What you have failed to understand leitrum, is that the first of those posts was light hearted.
Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 09:56 - Mar 9 by leitrimblue
So if I understand this correctly someone posted GSTK when Rangers scored in the Old Firm Derby then got upset when someone posted Up The Ra when Celtic scored
Amusing enough
Nope. I posted GSTK and never saw the up the RA post as I have that person on ignore. First I heard about it was yesterday. I do find Libero’s use of the term “hun” offensive. I would also find the term “fenian“ offensive if aimed at Celtic supporters.
Being a neutral living up here I have friends and family from both sides and have been to games at both Ibrox and Celtic Park. I don’t think derogatory terms based on sectarian language is good form. I’m sure you agree.
Edit. There’s the thread mate.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/625953/page:1
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Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 10:05 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue
Nope. I posted GSTK and never saw the up the RA post as I have that person on ignore. First I heard about it was yesterday. I do find Libero’s use of the term “hun” offensive. I would also find the term “fenian“ offensive if aimed at Celtic supporters.
Being a neutral living up here I have friends and family from both sides and have been to games at both Ibrox and Celtic Park. I don’t think derogatory terms based on sectarian language is good form. I’m sure you agree.
Edit. There’s the thread mate.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/625953/page:1
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If your the person who posted GSTK when Rangers scored and then got upset when someone used the word Hun then I think you should know better.
Quite clearly Rangers supporters or Protestants here will find Hun offensive just as Celtic fans ( Some Catholics or Republicans) would find someone shouting GSTK during a Old Firm Derby offensive
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Without getting involved…. on 10:51 - Mar 9 with 464 views
Without getting involved…. on 09:10 - Mar 9 by Bloots
….in the politics of it, and taking the whole flag waving purely on face value, then surely it’s less “bizarre” than a Scottish club using the Irish flag!
Seems a strange view to take given they are both British clubs.
I thought the angle of someone of Scottish Presbyterian heritage might be interesting but clearly you do not.
For what it is worth, I wish there were no sectarianism in Scotland, and am glad that it is not a feature of other clubs. Even Hibs have moved away from their Irish roots, and their support is drawn from the locality rather than based on religion. And given both my father's parents were born in Leith, Hibs are my Scottish team given my dad didn't grow up in a footballing area.
Finally, GB said he has no objection to the Irish flag, and I suppose its use is more understandable given Celtic's Irish roots, its name, it's colours and its badge. But as I said on an earlier post, I do wonder if it is this fact that has prolonged sectarianism in Glasgow when in a similar city (Liverpool) it has largely disappeared because neither club is associated with one side of the divide.
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Someone actually posted.... on 11:07 - Mar 9 with 425 views
Without getting involved…. on 10:51 - Mar 9 by DJR
I thought the angle of someone of Scottish Presbyterian heritage might be interesting but clearly you do not.
For what it is worth, I wish there were no sectarianism in Scotland, and am glad that it is not a feature of other clubs. Even Hibs have moved away from their Irish roots, and their support is drawn from the locality rather than based on religion. And given both my father's parents were born in Leith, Hibs are my Scottish team given my dad didn't grow up in a footballing area.
Finally, GB said he has no objection to the Irish flag, and I suppose its use is more understandable given Celtic's Irish roots, its name, it's colours and its badge. But as I said on an earlier post, I do wonder if it is this fact that has prolonged sectarianism in Glasgow when in a similar city (Liverpool) it has largely disappeared because neither club is associated with one side of the divide.
….whether that is deliberate or not I can’t say.
My confusion is why you find a British team waving the Union flag bizarre but don’t seem to find it bizarre that a British team waves the Irish flag.
You state that it’s more understandable for the Celtic fans because of their Irish roots, its name, its colours etc, but that can equally be applied to Rangers. Plus add in the inescapable fact that Scotland is part of the UK then one flag is plainly more “bizarre” (your word) than the other.
Do you find it equally bizarre if you see a Union Flag at matches involving English clubs?
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Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 11:11 - Mar 9 with 409 views
Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 09:56 - Mar 9 by leitrimblue
So if I understand this correctly someone posted GSTK when Rangers scored in the Old Firm Derby then got upset when someone posted Up The Ra when Celtic scored
Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 10:12 - Mar 9 by leitrimblue
If your the person who posted GSTK when Rangers scored and then got upset when someone used the word Hun then I think you should know better.
Quite clearly Rangers supporters or Protestants here will find Hun offensive just as Celtic fans ( Some Catholics or Republicans) would find someone shouting GSTK during a Old Firm Derby offensive
I didn't say I was upset. Funnily enough I just texted one of my daughter's boyfriend who is a Celtic supporter and asked him if he found GSTK abusive. He replied with "Tiocfaidh ár lá" and a smiley emoji.
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Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 10:05 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue
Nope. I posted GSTK and never saw the up the RA post as I have that person on ignore. First I heard about it was yesterday. I do find Libero’s use of the term “hun” offensive. I would also find the term “fenian“ offensive if aimed at Celtic supporters.
Being a neutral living up here I have friends and family from both sides and have been to games at both Ibrox and Celtic Park. I don’t think derogatory terms based on sectarian language is good form. I’m sure you agree.
Edit. There’s the thread mate.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/625953/page:1
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I’ve got this poster on ignore, as I do a large number of the right wing chumps on this board, but I was reading not logged in and saw my name dragged in- what an absolute wellington boot of a bloke.
Spends decade after decade on here vocally supporting all manner of awful politics that demonises the poor, attacks minorities and generally makes the world a worse place- but is so offended that I use the term hun to describe Rangers supporters that he has to crow bar it back into a thread a week later. Fabulous virtue signalling.
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Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 11:19 - Mar 9 with 370 views
Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 20:33 - Mar 8 by TJS
The way this was coming through in the media I thought something horrific had happened. Other than some Rangers fans in balaclavas running on the pitch in a somewhat aimless way and one flare being thrown it looked like fairly bog standard derby day behaviour that can be seen anywhere in Europe.
That's what I saw from the clip on the BBC News website. Unless there's something I've missed it's hardly "football hooliganism at its worst"!
You seem to be missing my point…. on 11:09 - Mar 9 by Bloots
….whether that is deliberate or not I can’t say.
My confusion is why you find a British team waving the Union flag bizarre but don’t seem to find it bizarre that a British team waves the Irish flag.
You state that it’s more understandable for the Celtic fans because of their Irish roots, its name, its colours etc, but that can equally be applied to Rangers. Plus add in the inescapable fact that Scotland is part of the UK then one flag is plainly more “bizarre” (your word) than the other.
Do you find it equally bizarre if you see a Union Flag at matches involving English clubs?
I don't think you understand the different dynamics in Scotland which mean that apart from Rangers, no fans of Scottish clubs would hoist a Union Jack.
The situation is different in England because the Union Jack is often used to signify support for England, and 40 odd years ago or more was generally used in preference to the the Cross of St George. It also finds its way into English club games. In addition, GSTK is used as the anthem at football matches of the England team when I think it would be much more appropriate if the team used something like Jerusalem which at least mentions England.
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You seem to be missing my point…. on 11:31 - Mar 9 with 348 views
You seem to be missing my point…. on 11:23 - Mar 9 by DJR
I don't think you understand the different dynamics in Scotland which mean that apart from Rangers, no fans of Scottish clubs would hoist a Union Jack.
The situation is different in England because the Union Jack is often used to signify support for England, and 40 odd years ago or more was generally used in preference to the the Cross of St George. It also finds its way into English club games. In addition, GSTK is used as the anthem at football matches of the England team when I think it would be much more appropriate if the team used something like Jerusalem which at least mentions England.
Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 11:13 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue
I didn't say I was upset. Funnily enough I just texted one of my daughter's boyfriend who is a Celtic supporter and asked him if he found GSTK abusive. He replied with "Tiocfaidh ár lá" and a smiley emoji.
I think your daughters boyfriends response perfectly outlines the situation and reaction of most sane people on this subject. In my experience the majority of people on both sides of this usually respond with banter. I personally really enjoy the English/Irish banter and rarely see it cross a line.
But at the same time I'm quite aware of the importance of timing and context. I quite often have to play the Brit for my mates ( I'm the only Brit most of my friends know ). I would think nothing of texting um a cheeky GSTK, say after a England get a try in the rugby ( I have almost no interest in rugby or love for the king) and would expect plenty of stick back.
I wouldn't though shout it in the High Street at closing time as imagine the reaction would be very different
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You seem to be missing my point…. on 11:48 - Mar 9 with 309 views
Happy to be corrected but the following link suggests they are the exceptions that prove the rule and are probably evidence of a certain sectarianism , the issue of sectarianism being a political issue that a few years ago involved Airdrie and Coatbridge.
Someone actually posted.... on 07:28 - Mar 9 by Churchman
What’s the RA? Just curious as I missed that.
As for Celtic and Rangers, no I don’t really know the history, nuance, allegiances, what it’s about beyond one lot support Catholics, the others Protestants. In other words zilch.
However, they have their league to play and fight in and they are just fine there so leave them there. The last thing our leagues need is that lot.
I’ll never understand that sort of thing. Football is sport. You follow your team, hope they’ll win with every fibre of your being and if you don’t, you strive to do better. The opposition? They’re just that. Leave it on the pitch and in the bar.
I never understood the football violence thing back in the day, despite witnessing it, running away from it and on odd occasions dealing with it.
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Sectarian football hooliganism at its worst on 09:00 - Mar 9 by Cafe_Newman
"I don't see an issue with Celtic fans flying the Irish tricolour. It's a national flag rather than a sectarian symbol."
Flags have different effects on different people though, don't they? Some people find the national flag below provocative for some reason. The important thing is to be consistent.
I make you correct. They can be very divisive and deliberately so as we've seen up and down the country recently.
In the brief clip I saw, I'm pretty sure I saw a large Parachute Regiment flag in the home end yesterday. That's purely there as a provocation as there's no justification for it being flown. I doubt it's seen the light of day at any other football ground - possibly not even Aldershot.
It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
You seem to be missing my point…. on 11:48 - Mar 9 by DJR
Happy to be corrected but the following link suggests they are the exceptions that prove the rule and are probably evidence of a certain sectarianism , the issue of sectarianism being a political issue that a few years ago involved Airdrie and Coatbridge.
Anyway nothing will change my view, as someone of Scottish descent, that this is bizarre at a Scottish football match.
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Few years back I use to go out with a Catholic girl from Edinburgh who supported Hearts but then would go all brave heart when Scotland played England in any sport.
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