| In defence of Ashton 14:49 - Mar 27 with 3112 views | Westcountryblue |
Amazed reading that fans would be happy to see Ashton resign.
I don't think it can be disputed that inviting Nigel Farage into the club was a naive and pretty poor decision. However, i think Ashton has a fairly good amount of credit in the bank.
When we arrived we were in a total mess. Decrepit stadium, thrusting 17 year olds out on to the pitch only for them to get seriously injured- and in some cases having to partially fund their own ops, players preferring to train and do their rehab in the David Lloyd, woefully inexperienced and understaffed departments, a totally dischenchanted fan base that had been force fed the 'little old Ipswich' mantra as we eagerly awaited our 3 bosman signings of the season, 20 years of absolute nothingness, countless mangerial failures, having our pants consistently pulled down by greaseball agents and the likes of Barry Fry, CEO's and MD's with no footballing experience, bending over backwards at the first sniff of money when bids came in for our top players like Adam Webster...The club was a total shambles and a mess. Fast forward 2026, two promotion later and we a fully refurbished ground, new training facilities coming this summer, 28-29k most weeks in the Championship and a club to be genuinly proud of. Ashton took a massive risk on appointing someone like McKenna and i think if anybody deserves forgiveness, it's him.
The witch hunt, media coverage and indignation of fans that has ensued is quite frankly embarassing. We're overlooking 4-5 years of incredible progress vs 2-3 hours of poor decision making.
I'll get absolutely anhilated on here for this, but we've been lucky to have someone like MA in our corner over the past few years and he's been a greater fighter and ambassador for our club. Downvote all you want, but i for one am pretty grateful for his efforts and haven't forgot those emotional scenes when we were promoted against all odds. [Post edited 27 Mar 14:53]
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| In defence of Ashton on 16:44 - Mar 27 with 368 views | bicester_blue |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:30 - Mar 27 by Westcountryblue |
With respect, while ITFC isn’t a particularly large organisation in terms of numbers, it is a very complex one that requires incredibly niche skills and experience that cannot easily be recruited from wider industries (as we have found before). It would be extremely difficult to replace key individuals and expect others to pick up the reins at such short notice. There would inevitably be a transitional phase, as with any organisation, but it would likely be felt more acutely here given where we find ourselves in terms of the league and number of games remaining. |
We’ll have to disagree on it being a complex structure. I fully agree talent can’t be recruited on the cheap as we found before, but if you pay competitively you’ll get the talent. Ashton is a solid EFL operator, but that’s his ceiling.
We are told at every opportunity by Ashton that replacements for all roles are regularly updated on the infamous dashboard. I suspect the owners would have a shortlist in mind at all times for Ashton.
The run in is purely focussed on the pitch, we aren’t in a transfer window and nor are many players out of contract. If as we are told, a proportion of players and staff are upset. Are they able to function to the best of their ability? Ultimately it’s a call for the owners to assess what the least disruptive path forward is. There will be disruption either way now, and it was so needless. This week has been about as far from an ‘elite’ operator as you can get. | | | |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:44 - Mar 27 with 366 views | urbanpenguin |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:19 - Mar 27 by Westcountryblue |
''genuinely, I only see spaces before punctuation from people who generally hold right wing views''
Your own words. Own them ! |
I literally did. But ok. |  | | |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:47 - Mar 27 with 340 views | urbanpenguin |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:43 - Mar 27 by Westcountryblue |
The CEO makes a huge number of key decisions on a daily basis in any organisation. Are you implying that the removal of a CEO and executive leadership would have no immediate impact on wider areas of the football club — most notably the manager, whom he recruited, who's very job needs constant support and attention.
I’m genuinely interested in your take, as you seem very sure of what you’re saying. I’ll happily be proved wrong if that’s the case. |
I am a CEO of a uk-wide charity.
Yes, you are right, it would obviously have impact. However, that should not be the litmus test for if an organisational action should or should not be taken.
A good organisation has a body above the CEO and other collegiate colleagues who should, in emergency, be totally capable of fulfilling the work on an interim basis. That is the case in the charity I run where we have a board of trustees and i have employees who could step up for short term to ensure smooth running, and is the case in a larger organisation such as ITFC with a board and broad expertise across the building.
This would be the strategy if a member of staff suddenly resigned, had to be removed, fell ill or anything. | | | |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:48 - Mar 27 with 329 views | Westcountryblue |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:43 - Mar 27 by bartyg |
If you just like successful football clubs, could I suggest Manchester City? |
Personally, I think it's a pretty exciting club to support these days, and i largely enjoy the brand of football we play. While that's not all down to MA, granted, but he's certainly played a key role in our recent sucess. I have zero interest into going back to the days of watching ITFC being beaten by Northampton Town at home infront of 12,000 fans. TWTD. | | | |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:56 - Mar 27 with 289 views | Westcountryblue |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:47 - Mar 27 by urbanpenguin |
I am a CEO of a uk-wide charity.
Yes, you are right, it would obviously have impact. However, that should not be the litmus test for if an organisational action should or should not be taken.
A good organisation has a body above the CEO and other collegiate colleagues who should, in emergency, be totally capable of fulfilling the work on an interim basis. That is the case in the charity I run where we have a board of trustees and i have employees who could step up for short term to ensure smooth running, and is the case in a larger organisation such as ITFC with a board and broad expertise across the building.
This would be the strategy if a member of staff suddenly resigned, had to be removed, fell ill or anything. |
Normally, i would agree with you. But, i think football as an industry, is so incredibly niche and specialist. Above MA are the US owners, who have very little experience in both the micro and macro decisions that need to be made on daily basis at football club. The very idea of that actually makes me incredibly nervous.
I do agree with people saying that Ashton needs to come out and face the music. But, I don't think that should come at the expense of his job and continuity. There will be a time where both he and his team move on, but now isn't the right time for that in my opinion. | | | |
| In defence of Ashton on 17:07 - Mar 27 with 258 views | MattinLondon |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:40 - Mar 27 by thebeat |
Yet they've waited until now to bring this up? I call bu****it |
I have no reason to doubt Blue Action. Ashton on the other hand… |  | | |
| In defence of Ashton on 17:08 - Mar 27 with 255 views | BeachBlue |
I've up voted you.
The rest of you can down vote me all you want! I no longer care. |  |
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| In defence of Ashton on 17:20 - Mar 27 with 228 views | Leaky |
| In defence of Ashton on 15:54 - Mar 27 by urbanpenguin |
I couldn't really work out the "ideas" because the writing was so bad.
but, genuinely, I only see spaces before punctuation from people who generally hold right wing views. I am going to get some research funding money from my employee to properly investigate. |
So if we don't use punctuation correctly we are all right wing, am I correct.
bloody hell there are some nut jobs posting on here [Post edited 27 Mar 17:23]
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| In defence of Ashton on 17:27 - Mar 27 with 203 views | urbanpenguin |
| In defence of Ashton on 17:20 - Mar 27 by Leaky |
So if we don't use punctuation correctly we are all right wing, am I correct.
bloody hell there are some nut jobs posting on here [Post edited 27 Mar 17:23]
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"I am not saying "all people who have dyslexia are right wing", I am observing a regular occurence specifically of spaces before punctuation and quite hateful viewpoints." | | | |
| In defence of Ashton on 17:35 - Mar 27 with 170 views | Ryorry |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:16 - Mar 27 by PaulYoungs |
Tell that to all the small businesses he put out of business |
I'm sure they were aware of it, and everyone sympathises with them, but as I said, administration wasn't entirely of his own making, like this clusterf**** from MA has been (& for far worse reasons too - he gave not a single thought as to how it would affect the Club, the players, fans or staff).
MA was either monumentally stupid with that lack of thought, in which case he shouldn't be running any club anyway; or thinking of no-one but himself; or both. Which do you think it is? |  |
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| In defence of Ashton on 17:46 - Mar 27 with 145 views | bluelagos |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:40 - Mar 27 by thebeat |
Yet they've waited until now to bring this up? I call bu****it |
I was informed of that by two different people a number of weeks ago. I won't share the names publicly - but yes, what I was told at the time was consistent with the post made here.
The reason they didn't go public is clear to me - Ashton threatened them - and they opted not to risk getting banned.
That is their right. [Post edited 27 Mar 17:56]
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| In defence of Ashton on 17:52 - Mar 27 with 122 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| In defence of Ashton on 14:58 - Mar 27 by bluelagos |
He did.
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What was the banner? |  | | |
| In defence of Ashton on 17:53 - Mar 27 with 122 views | hunty21 |
| In defence of Ashton on 16:32 - Mar 27 by BlueBadger |
It's a forum, actually.
Why can none the patriotic crowd actually communicate in English? |
I stand corrected and that comment is a D- lacks punctuation and try harder. | | | |
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