| Delap 05:21 - Apr 9 with 3077 views | chripswich |
Should never have gone to Chelsea. Man U were always the place for him. Badly advised.
Anyway, in an effort to help him restart his career. How about a seasons loan if we stay up.
I’d do it in a heartbeat.
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| Delap on 06:14 - Apr 9 with 2623 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Would take him on a loan if we go up in a heartbeat. Whether he’d be AS effective I don’t know now he’s a known threat. I think I’d go all out on bolstering our defence first as we really struggled to hold on once we got in front.
Would he have done better at United, not sure they have done much better under Carrick but pre that they were a sh1tshow as well with an unforgiving fanbase much like Chelsea. I feel a Brentford or Bournemouth might have been the move to make if it was on the table. |  | | |
| Delap on 06:38 - Apr 9 with 2537 views | vilanovablue |
| Delap on 06:14 - Apr 9 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Would take him on a loan if we go up in a heartbeat. Whether he’d be AS effective I don’t know now he’s a known threat. I think I’d go all out on bolstering our defence first as we really struggled to hold on once we got in front.
Would he have done better at United, not sure they have done much better under Carrick but pre that they were a sh1tshow as well with an unforgiving fanbase much like Chelsea. I feel a Brentford or Bournemouth might have been the move to make if it was on the table. |
Possibly Forest as well as a Wood replacement. |  | | |
| Delap on 06:39 - Apr 9 with 2534 views | ITFC_Forever |
The mess Man Utd were in last summer would have been a bad move for any player.
I always thought Newcastle might have been the best option for him, after staying with with us. |  |
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| Delap on 07:09 - Apr 9 with 2424 views | Blue_Heath |
tbh he had the season of his career with us but despite that he'd have been better using a stepping stone club like Brighton or Forest to ultimately get a bigger move.
I wouldn't mind a loan but let's see what happens first. | |
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| Delap on 08:02 - Apr 9 with 2211 views | EastTownBlue |
Or perhaps Everton as a better alternative.
I don’t suppose anyone would turn down the chance of Champions League football regardless of which club would turn out to be better for them in the long term. | | | |
| Delap on 08:09 - Apr 9 with 2156 views | RetroBlue |
OP agree with you .. I said at the time hed picked the wrong club. He should have gone to either Newcaastle or Man Urd ... Ive watched him quite a bit at Chlesea this season to see how hes getting on and tbh , Im not particularly impressed. Id say he is a very good Championship level player and not really PL level. Thats where Im expecting him to finally end up after his next, and probably final PL club, befoire he slips down the rungs a bit .. |  |
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| Delap on 08:12 - Apr 9 with 2134 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
If we go up and Delap was open to that deal it is a no brainer. |  |
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| Delap on 08:16 - Apr 9 with 2079 views | nrb1985 |
You’re way off here sorry.
He’d played under Maresca at City and Chelsea needed a striker, Jao Pedro is ok but a fit and firing Delap should easily have supplanted him. Chelsea had also qualified for Champions league while United had nearly been relegated and were a laughing stock.
He got unlucky with being injured early on but he has been hopeless since and missed a number of sitters. Hes basically been their Hirst ie a running joke among fans.
Also Amorim was gone quite quickly, nothing to suggest the new manager would have fancied him. | | | |
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| Delap on 08:18 - Apr 9 with 2071 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Delap on 08:16 - Apr 9 by nrb1985 |
You’re way off here sorry.
He’d played under Maresca at City and Chelsea needed a striker, Jao Pedro is ok but a fit and firing Delap should easily have supplanted him. Chelsea had also qualified for Champions league while United had nearly been relegated and were a laughing stock.
He got unlucky with being injured early on but he has been hopeless since and missed a number of sitters. Hes basically been their Hirst ie a running joke among fans.
Also Amorim was gone quite quickly, nothing to suggest the new manager would have fancied him. |
"Jao Pedro is ok but a fit and firing Delap should easily have supplanted him"
Joao Pedro is a lot better than ok. | |
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| Delap on 08:20 - Apr 9 with 2053 views | nrb1985 |
| Delap on 08:18 - Apr 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
"Jao Pedro is ok but a fit and firing Delap should easily have supplanted him"
Joao Pedro is a lot better than ok. |
He is now and has thrived at Chelsea - showing that it’s not really Chelsea’s fault Delap has been as he’s been.
He had a very unspectacular record before that and wasn’t even always first choice at Brighton. Top strikers don’t go from one PL club to another for £50m which shows you how he was rated previous to joining Chelsea. | | | |
| Delap on 08:22 - Apr 9 with 2037 views | badadski |
| Delap on 08:12 - Apr 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
If we go up and Delap was open to that deal it is a no brainer. |
delap for me is a player who is better suited to less time
On the ball with space to drive into. At Chelsea who are a possession based team and who teams sit back on, he is not very effective as is not a technical player. I think he would suffer to similar problems to what we have when teams sit back and he we have no space to play into. That for me has been his downfall at Chelsea and why he would have been, I’m not going to say better bit definitely got more exposure in a team that isn’t so possession based and who other teams allow a more open playing style against. | | | |
| Delap on 08:31 - Apr 9 with 1969 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Delap on 08:20 - Apr 9 by nrb1985 |
He is now and has thrived at Chelsea - showing that it’s not really Chelsea’s fault Delap has been as he’s been.
He had a very unspectacular record before that and wasn’t even always first choice at Brighton. Top strikers don’t go from one PL club to another for £50m which shows you how he was rated previous to joining Chelsea. |
He wasn't always a striker for Brighton and think attitude issues cost him some game time.
I thought it was evident at Watford he would be a top player and he is showing that for Chelsea now. Jut think Chelsea is a bad style for Delap tbh. | |
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| Delap on 08:46 - Apr 9 with 1870 views | nrb1985 |
| Delap on 08:31 - Apr 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
He wasn't always a striker for Brighton and think attitude issues cost him some game time.
I thought it was evident at Watford he would be a top player and he is showing that for Chelsea now. Jut think Chelsea is a bad style for Delap tbh. |
Style maybe, not sure though - Delap has had plenty of opportunities so he is getting into scoring positions he’s just missing.
I have strong Chelsea connections on one side of the family so have taken more than passing interest in how he’s done and he has, unfortunately, been laughably bad at times for them. As I said, he is very much their Hirst.
I also think in terms of style, there won’t be many top clubs ideally suited to Delap, like we were, because he loves space to run in behind. Won’t get that at top clubs. So he will need to adapt regardless. [Post edited 9 Apr 8:47]
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| Delap on 10:07 - Apr 9 with 1612 views | RetroBlue |
| Delap on 08:18 - Apr 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
"Jao Pedro is ok but a fit and firing Delap should easily have supplanted him"
Joao Pedro is a lot better than ok. |
spot on . Theres no comparision .... | |
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| Delap on 10:44 - Apr 9 with 1479 views | nrb1985 |
| Delap on 10:07 - Apr 9 by RetroBlue |
spot on . Theres no comparision .... |
Last season, would you have taken Jao Pedro over Delap? I don’t recall many suitors other than Chelsea for Jao Pedro.
I do remember half the league wanting to sign Liam Delap though. | | | |
| Delap on 10:46 - Apr 9 with 1464 views | portmanking |
As good as Delap was, I'd prefer his good season to be left in the past. We need to look forward. We need a more unselfish number 9 that's prepared to play in better-placed teammates rather than run down blind alleys and go it alone head-down.
McKenna's system relies on four unselfish players across all four of the forward positions. | | | |
| Delap on 10:48 - Apr 9 with 1453 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I can see why he went there under Maresca, but in hindsight going and being a slightly bigger fish at Everton or Newcastle was probably the right move for him.
Everton have really lacked a #9 this season, they probably wouldn't have signed Barry if they got Delap, and Beto is pants. If's and but's but had he gone there and scored double figures this season he would probably be on a plane to the world cup in the summer. |  | | |
| I think Everton was the place for him on 10:48 - Apr 9 with 1450 views | unstableblue |
History of that type of centre forward
Style that suits him
Two similar strikers of lesser quality there
He looks so lost in that Chelsea system. [Post edited 9 Apr 10:52]
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| Delap on 11:57 - Apr 9 with 1286 views | nrb1985 |
| Delap on 10:48 - Apr 9 by _CliveBaker_ |
I can see why he went there under Maresca, but in hindsight going and being a slightly bigger fish at Everton or Newcastle was probably the right move for him.
Everton have really lacked a #9 this season, they probably wouldn't have signed Barry if they got Delap, and Beto is pants. If's and but's but had he gone there and scored double figures this season he would probably be on a plane to the world cup in the summer. |
Agree with that - Chelsea made sense at the time especially as Jackson was leaving and they'd just qualified for the CL.
Newcastle or Everton would have been a better bet with hindsight.
United never made sense and they have been an absolute graveyard for good players over the last decade. See Mason Mount and many others. | | | |
| I think Everton was the place for him on 11:59 - Apr 9 with 1272 views | nrb1985 |
| I think Everton was the place for him on 10:48 - Apr 9 by unstableblue |
History of that type of centre forward
Style that suits him
Two similar strikers of lesser quality there
He looks so lost in that Chelsea system. [Post edited 9 Apr 10:52]
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But he keeps getting big chances to score so he can't be that lost surely.
I don't use those fancy stat websites but sure somebody can tell me how many XG and big chances he's missed this year. | | | |
| Delap on 12:02 - Apr 9 with 1264 views | ElderGrizzly |
Always thought Everton was the ideal move after us. Less pressure, play every week and one of the best man managers around in Moyes.
Assuming Chelsea will need to sell a decent amount of players in the summer due to their losses and he'd get a decent return on the £30m they paid. |  | | |
| I think Everton was the place for him on 12:05 - Apr 9 with 1248 views | DanTheMan |
| I think Everton was the place for him on 11:59 - Apr 9 by nrb1985 |
But he keeps getting big chances to score so he can't be that lost surely.
I don't use those fancy stat websites but sure somebody can tell me how many XG and big chances he's missed this year. |
His xG is apparently 3.9 which roughly lines up with his 4 big chances missed.
For us, he scored more than his xG, although he apparently missed 10 big chances. |  |
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| Delap on 12:14 - Apr 9 with 1207 views | RetroBlue |
| Delap on 10:44 - Apr 9 by nrb1985 |
Last season, would you have taken Jao Pedro over Delap? I don’t recall many suitors other than Chelsea for Jao Pedro.
I do remember half the league wanting to sign Liam Delap though. |
Its about who is going to develeop really isnt it . Whats the player's ceiling ... Im not sure Delap has much more to his game. Pedro appears to have far more... time will tell. | |
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| Delap on 12:28 - Apr 9 with 1159 views | nrb1985 |
| Delap on 12:14 - Apr 9 by RetroBlue |
Its about who is going to develeop really isnt it . Whats the player's ceiling ... Im not sure Delap has much more to his game. Pedro appears to have far more... time will tell. |
I think the point is that now he does, 12 months ago that wasn’t the case and that was reflected in the fact that Delap was so sought after - JP definitely wasn’t. | | | |
| Delap on 12:38 - Apr 9 with 1112 views | Devereuxxx |
I always found Delap a funny one. Probably our most effective player in the PL but also immensely frustrating at time. By the end he was giving up simple passes to smack the ball miles over.
There's probably a bit of revisionism about him joining Chelsea as well. They clearly needed a striker when he signed - Joao Pedro was only signed a month later. There was a clear pathway to the first XI to him there, and then injuries didn't help at the start of the season. Man Utd were a basketcase, Newcastle had Isak and Everton are Everton. You can see why he made the choice.
He certainly needs a PL loan next season, whether that be us or somewhere else. There's a player there, but he needs coaching and minutes. Which in the PL can be a challenge commodity to secure. |  | | |
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