| Jaden 09:33 - Apr 20 with 3429 views | pingu67 |
Perhaps i'm being a little harsh but i'm unsure how much he actually offers?
He rarely seems to beat his man, appears very lightweight and apart from the occasional top class finish he doesn't appear to contribute that much
Jack clarke appears to offer more but is often put on the bench or shifted to the right to accompany jaden |  | | |  |
| Jaden on 09:37 - Apr 20 with 2651 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I wish you could combine the two of them. Philogene lacks a bit of pace I think because his feet are incredible and he knows how to beat people from a standing start but he just lacks that extra bit of pace to get away from the players he beats if that makes sense. But he is a top finisher and his ball retention is superb, one of the best first touches in football.
If he was a bit stronger and a bit quicker I think you are looking at a top level football player. |  |
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| Jaden on 09:38 - Apr 20 with 2635 views | portmanking |
| Jaden on 09:37 - Apr 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I wish you could combine the two of them. Philogene lacks a bit of pace I think because his feet are incredible and he knows how to beat people from a standing start but he just lacks that extra bit of pace to get away from the players he beats if that makes sense. But he is a top finisher and his ball retention is superb, one of the best first touches in football.
If he was a bit stronger and a bit quicker I think you are looking at a top level football player. |
I don't understand why he can't be the central 10? As you say, top finisher, great first touch in and around the box. Two-footed. Great pressing off the ball. That's a simple way of getting Jaden *and* Jack into the XI for some must-win games IMO. | | | |
| Jaden on 09:40 - Apr 20 with 2611 views | Len_Brennan |
Very good first touch & close control, causes the opposition to double up on him, leaving space elsewhere, tracks back & works his socks off, unlike a lot of players with talent in his position, plus is a serious goal threat from distance.
Other than that, he's just like you & me. | |
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| Jaden on 09:42 - Apr 20 with 2596 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Jaden on 09:38 - Apr 20 by portmanking |
I don't understand why he can't be the central 10? As you say, top finisher, great first touch in and around the box. Two-footed. Great pressing off the ball. That's a simple way of getting Jaden *and* Jack into the XI for some must-win games IMO. |
I think if he played the 10 he is coming really deep to get the ball so you're taking him away from the area he does the most amount of damage. He really needs to be on that left side cutting in with Leif round the outside.
But I do agree without Clarke we really miss someone driving with the ball. Tough one. | |
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| Jaden on 09:43 - Apr 20 with 2584 views | pingu67 |
| Jaden on 09:38 - Apr 20 by portmanking |
I don't understand why he can't be the central 10? As you say, top finisher, great first touch in and around the box. Two-footed. Great pressing off the ball. That's a simple way of getting Jaden *and* Jack into the XI for some must-win games IMO. |
Could be interesting and worth a try as it clearly doesn't work switching clarke to the right and hopefully mcateer will start to fly down the right with more confidence | | | |
| Jaden on 09:51 - Apr 20 with 2525 views | homer_123 |
| Jaden on 09:38 - Apr 20 by portmanking |
I don't understand why he can't be the central 10? As you say, top finisher, great first touch in and around the box. Two-footed. Great pressing off the ball. That's a simple way of getting Jaden *and* Jack into the XI for some must-win games IMO. |
The 10 role.
You need a baller in there - a player that can pick a pass and unlock. Jaden can play, great first touch, can def finish but I am not sure he has the range of passing and moreover no evidence to suggest he can find space like a good 10 can by dropping between the lines, drifting and being difficult to pick up.
Nunez 'should' be that player, he can find space, he can pick a pass but there is something that isn't quite right about him playing there.
For me, the two players that we have that would be our current most natural 10s are Mehmeti and Egeli. Though this will be where Egeli ends up eventually maybe too early for him.
In hindsight - we seriously miss Chappers. |  |
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| Jaden on 09:54 - Apr 20 with 2493 views | portmanking |
| Jaden on 09:42 - Apr 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I think if he played the 10 he is coming really deep to get the ball so you're taking him away from the area he does the most amount of damage. He really needs to be on that left side cutting in with Leif round the outside.
But I do agree without Clarke we really miss someone driving with the ball. Tough one. |
Azon
Clarke - Philogene - McAteer
Taylor - Matusiwa
That would be my preferred starting midfield/forward options at Charlton. Get the lead in the first 45-60 for a change, *then* rest one or two with Saturday in mind. | | | |
| Jaden on 09:57 - Apr 20 with 2466 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I think that is harsh tbh. Certainly not his best game yesterday but they pretty much doubled up on him, as many do. I thought he was excellent against Norwich, and we shouldn't forget yesterday was only his 2nd start since January.
I think with both Clarke and Philogene they can be a bit streaky, I thought Clarke was poor at Pompey. I wish he was a bit more greedy at times when it opened up for him yesterday, especially that one he tried to lay on for Hirst. |  | | |
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| Jaden on 10:00 - Apr 20 with 2420 views | Vaughan8 |
Is this just based on the last few games?
If you can't see what he offers then I don't think anyone can help you.
He's one of, if not the, best player at the club. HAs he been brilliant since he's come back from injury, not really, but he did have about 2 months out. | | | |
| Jaden on 10:02 - Apr 20 with 2403 views | TractorJack |
| Jaden on 09:57 - Apr 20 by _CliveBaker_ |
I think that is harsh tbh. Certainly not his best game yesterday but they pretty much doubled up on him, as many do. I thought he was excellent against Norwich, and we shouldn't forget yesterday was only his 2nd start since January.
I think with both Clarke and Philogene they can be a bit streaky, I thought Clarke was poor at Pompey. I wish he was a bit more greedy at times when it opened up for him yesterday, especially that one he tried to lay on for Hirst. |
Yeah, this. They gave him absolutely no room first half but that allowed the space to open up on the right for our goal / other big chance. The one time he got in front of goal he also forced a very good save from the keeper. He's consistently our most dangerous attacker even when not completely 'on it'. |  | | |
| Jaden on 10:04 - Apr 20 with 2382 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Jaden on 10:00 - Apr 20 by Vaughan8 |
Is this just based on the last few games?
If you can't see what he offers then I don't think anyone can help you.
He's one of, if not the, best player at the club. HAs he been brilliant since he's come back from injury, not really, but he did have about 2 months out. |
A very good save from their keeper was potentially the difference between him being a match winner yesterday and people crowing about his 2 goals in his last 2 starts and how valuable has been.
Fine lines innit. | | | |
| Jaden on 10:05 - Apr 20 with 2376 views | mellowblue |
Looks a bit of a one trick pony at the moment. And that trick of cutting in has been snuffed out with double marking. Lacks the physicality to compete properly though I can not fault his effort. Does not get past defenders like he did when he was on loan at Hull. Being dispossessed in the wing area is one thing, but playing 10 and then being dispossessed in central areas is a different level of risk. | | | |
| Jaden on 10:06 - Apr 20 with 2365 views | ghostofescobar |
A quality player who has been out with a nasty knee injury for a couple of months. Still getting back to match fitness; he is still a little way from his pre injury best. His tracking back seems to have dropped off a little, but perhaps that’s a match fitness thing. The only thing that sometimes infuriates me is that he doesn’t release the ball quickly enough to players in good positions. |  |
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| Jaden on 10:12 - Apr 20 with 2297 views | lazyblue |
Are you kidding me?
Clarke is good and should just do it himself , kind of played you say don’t defend just go and be brilliant and forget passing go it alone.
Jayden been out for a while and getting up to speed still, have you forgotten we are where we are because of him . | | | |
| Jaden on 10:31 - Apr 20 with 2200 views | coote |
Agree 100%
He’ll leave here on free transfer in 2/3 years.
Great shot on him absolutely nothing else. |  | | |
| Jaden on 10:42 - Apr 20 with 2122 views | Garv |
He's more of an athlete and he's got more moments of one off quality, but in terms of creativity he's no better than Broadhead sadly.
Is it one assist all season? |  |
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| Jaden on 10:46 - Apr 20 with 2096 views | Basuco |
In one move shown on the highlights, there were three Boro defenders around Jaden and five marking the right back area in general. If he was good enough to pick his way through that lot then it would have been Man City or Arsenal signing him, not us. On Sunday we saw some really good defending from Town and Boro, with Boro being very quick to get back into a solid defensive shape after loosing possession. |  | | |
| Jaden on 10:49 - Apr 20 with 2054 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Jaden on 10:42 - Apr 20 by Garv |
He's more of an athlete and he's got more moments of one off quality, but in terms of creativity he's no better than Broadhead sadly.
Is it one assist all season? |
Broadhead plays for Wrexham.
Philogene has played in the champions league and was being chased by Barcelona. | |
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| Jaden on 10:51 - Apr 20 with 2041 views | rickw |
He's still working his way back to his best after injury, but Boro had done their homework on him too. As others have said they doubled up on him stopping him cutting inside and shooting on his right.
The only way to stop opponents from doing that is to be a threat going on the outside too and he seemed reluctant to do that yesterday, he's scored a couple of great goals with his left this season so he shouldn't be so hesitant to use it. |  |
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| Jaden on 10:58 - Apr 20 with 2000 views | Garv |
| Jaden on 10:49 - Apr 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Broadhead plays for Wrexham.
Philogene has played in the champions league and was being chased by Barcelona. |
True but he did nothing for Villa in the PL (or us). Philogene is more suited to elite level football than Broadhead for the reasons I've mentioned, but I stand by the opinion Broadhead is more creative. | |
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| Jaden on 10:59 - Apr 20 with 1995 views | MattinLondon |
One of the things which we severely lack in the team is pace - pace is such an asset but apart from Leif and Jack Clarke I do think that we have a team of slow coaches. Maybe that’s why we look like we play with such lethargy.
Jaden is technically a great player and he works hard but he seems to slow down the game so much. Leif Davis bombs down on the outside but he always cuts inside into traffic slowing down the pace of the attack. Sometimes it works but more often than not it doesn’t.
£20M for him is quite outrageous as he’s basically Darren Currie but without his pace.
As I said he’s works hard and is technically great but not sure he’s PL standard. |  | | |
| Jaden on 11:11 - Apr 20 with 1923 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Jaden on 10:59 - Apr 20 by MattinLondon |
One of the things which we severely lack in the team is pace - pace is such an asset but apart from Leif and Jack Clarke I do think that we have a team of slow coaches. Maybe that’s why we look like we play with such lethargy.
Jaden is technically a great player and he works hard but he seems to slow down the game so much. Leif Davis bombs down on the outside but he always cuts inside into traffic slowing down the pace of the attack. Sometimes it works but more often than not it doesn’t.
£20M for him is quite outrageous as he’s basically Darren Currie but without his pace.
As I said he’s works hard and is technically great but not sure he’s PL standard. |
I would add Dara to those 2. He is very fast.
But you are right, pace and physicality is something we really miss and is the reason that if we went up we would likely need 9 new starters. | |
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| Jaden on 11:24 - Apr 20 with 1837 views | Libero |
| Jaden on 10:42 - Apr 20 by Garv |
He's more of an athlete and he's got more moments of one off quality, but in terms of creativity he's no better than Broadhead sadly.
Is it one assist all season? |
Broadhead was so physically fragile that he literally couldn’t play two games in a week… |  | | |
| Jaden on 11:32 - Apr 20 with 1796 views | BlueOura |
| Jaden on 10:31 - Apr 20 by coote |
Agree 100%
He’ll leave here on free transfer in 2/3 years.
Great shot on him absolutely nothing else. |
I assume this is a poor attempt at humour? |  | | |
| Jaden on 11:36 - Apr 20 with 1770 views | MattinLondon |
| Jaden on 11:11 - Apr 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I would add Dara to those 2. He is very fast.
But you are right, pace and physicality is something we really miss and is the reason that if we went up we would likely need 9 new starters. |
And to be fair Burns isn’t slow and we miss him quite a lot. | | | |
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