| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. 15:02 - May 2 with 2842 views | klg199 |
Just enjoy today and pick up the political sh*t next week. [Post edited 2 May 15:03]
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:06 - May 2 with 1782 views | wkj |
Why not both, McK is a god and Ashton is a knob... both a factually correct and enjoyable to talk about [Post edited 2 May 15:12]
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:08 - May 2 with 1765 views | KBsSocks |
It's not political, it's lies.
Which also happens to be Populist politics, but that is not what "Ashton Out" is about. |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:10 - May 2 with 1731 views | wkj |
To be fair its not political with me either, guy almost ballsed up promotion in the summer with crap recruitment and McK had to rescue something out of it. Ashton's passed his sell-by-date here [Post edited 2 May 15:11]
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:11 - May 2 with 1712 views | TheMoralMajority |
Waka waka |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:12 - May 2 with 1693 views | WeWereZombies |
Independent Chairman In ! |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:14 - May 2 with 1682 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:12 - May 2 by WeWereZombies |
Independent Chairman In ! |
Uppa Appropriate Division of Authority! |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:16 - May 2 with 1666 views | Kropotkin123 |
Jeez, another thread on it. Can you just enjoy today and stop trying control the narrative. |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:18 - May 2 with 1647 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:16 - May 2 by Kropotkin123 |
Jeez, another thread on it. Can you just enjoy today and stop trying control the narrative. |
Quite. For those able to enjoy promotion AND still have other thoughts, fine just let them get on with it.
We’re all still enjoying promotion after all. Uppa Towen. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:19 - May 2 with 1629 views | jas0999 |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:10 - May 2 by wkj |
To be fair its not political with me either, guy almost ballsed up promotion in the summer with crap recruitment and McK had to rescue something out of it. Ashton's passed his sell-by-date here [Post edited 2 May 15:11]
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Forgetting any politics …
Can MA be trusted with the critical recruitment this summer? Does anyone have any faith he will get it right? | | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:23 - May 2 with 1598 views | KBsSocks |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:16 - May 2 by Kropotkin123 |
Jeez, another thread on it. Can you just enjoy today and stop trying control the narrative. |
I would suggest this is not about control; but some do clearly need reminding that we have been lied to, and the subsequent inaction is insulting, basically. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:24 - May 2 with 1584 views | wkj |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:19 - May 2 by jas0999 |
Forgetting any politics …
Can MA be trusted with the critical recruitment this summer? Does anyone have any faith he will get it right? |
I certainly don't. If he stays I think he needs to stick to the business stuff and let KM hook up with a solid head of recruitment | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:35 - May 2 with 1546 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:23 - May 2 by KBsSocks |
I would suggest this is not about control; but some do clearly need reminding that we have been lied to, and the subsequent inaction is insulting, basically. |
Telling people what to think or when to think it is controlling the narrative.
I'm happy to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are talking about their intentions. However, I'm not interested in trying to prove their intent one way or the other. I'm interested in the consequence and hypocrisy of their post. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:39 - May 2 with 1526 views | KBsSocks |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:35 - May 2 by Kropotkin123 |
Telling people what to think or when to think it is controlling the narrative.
I'm happy to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are talking about their intentions. However, I'm not interested in trying to prove their intent one way or the other. I'm interested in the consequence and hypocrisy of their post. |
Having one opinion or another is not about controlling the narrative. It is adding to the narrative, to keep the narrative alive.
Controlling the narrative would be shutting down opinions and preventing discussion and counter narratives. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:42 - May 2 with 1504 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:39 - May 2 by KBsSocks |
Having one opinion or another is not about controlling the narrative. It is adding to the narrative, to keep the narrative alive.
Controlling the narrative would be shutting down opinions and preventing discussion and counter narratives. |
They are attempting to shut down opinions. They are telling people not to bring it up today. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:45 - May 2 with 1484 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:42 - May 2 by Kropotkin123 |
They are attempting to shut down opinions. They are telling people not to bring it up today. |
TBH, I don't think today is the day for it, but people can do as they please.
Waka waka. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:45 - May 2 with 1483 views | KBsSocks |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:16 - May 2 by Kropotkin123 |
Jeez, another thread on it. Can you just enjoy today and stop trying control the narrative. |
OK, perhaps we are arguing from the same side, but this post is at best ambiguous if so. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:47 - May 2 with 1467 views | Meadowlark |
Thanks Nigel! Tvvat! |  | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:51 - May 2 with 1445 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:47 - May 2 by Meadowlark |
Thanks Nigel! Tvvat! |
Its exactly what Ashton wants. For people just to forget about it and pretend it never happened.
Which is why those trying to shut down criticism are Ashton (if not Farage) apologists.
The amount of personal abuse they spout is eye-opening too. |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:57 - May 2 with 1413 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:45 - May 2 by KBsSocks |
OK, perhaps we are arguing from the same side, but this post is at best ambiguous if so. |
If you think the OP is hypocritical and telling people what to think, then yes.
My post is mirroring the same sentence structure to make the hypocrisy clear. It has 4 up votes because people recognise this style of making a point and agree. But yes, mirroring a classic line, can be ambiguous, if you don't see the differences. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:59 - May 2 with 1394 views | KBsSocks |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:57 - May 2 by Kropotkin123 |
If you think the OP is hypocritical and telling people what to think, then yes.
My post is mirroring the same sentence structure to make the hypocrisy clear. It has 4 up votes because people recognise this style of making a point and agree. But yes, mirroring a classic line, can be ambiguous, if you don't see the differences. |
Clearly. Or not. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 16:00 - May 2 with 1387 views | armchaircritic59 |
Personally I don't give a stuff about the " political sh*t ". If there's anything to come of it, it's in the court of the owners. I'll be happy with whatever they decide ( if they decide anything at all ), they've barely put a foot wrong since they've been here. This is a football club not a political sideshow, and one that has just got back to the top league in world football and people are still talking politics. A typical example of why I detest both politics and over 90% of all politicians, in a nutshell. |  | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 16:04 - May 2 with 1361 views | ITFCson |
Lovely to see Ashton embracing the players and the players reaction to the embrace - especially Kipre and Mahmeti. We are very lucky to have Ashton. | | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 16:07 - May 2 with 1352 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:59 - May 2 by KBsSocks |
Clearly. Or not. |
I'm well aware it can go over some people's heads. I'm happy to chalk it up to you not being my target audience. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 16:22 - May 2 with 1314 views | KBsSocks |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 16:07 - May 2 by Kropotkin123 |
I'm well aware it can go over some people's heads. I'm happy to chalk it up to you not being my target audience. |
Or not-not =D | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 18:44 - May 2 with 1192 views | Whos_blue |
Picture the scene.
The excitement is building as the final whistle nears.
The expectant crowd edge ever nearer to the touch line.
The whistle blows and people run on to the pitch, drunk in the joyous moment.
Absolute scenes!
Imagine being the person or persons whose first thought was to desecrate the north stand goal posts with Restore Britain stickers.
I don't ever recall that happening before.
Now tell me the political sh*t isn't important.
Those people who chose to deface the goal posts didn't leave it until next week.
The actions of Ashton - the visit and subsequent lies matter.
Whilst I did my bit to make today about football, you maybe want to consider what drove those others to put racist party supporting stickers on the north stand goal posts.
Whilst I (who is hugely disappointed with Ashton) just wanted to focus on the football, others didn't.
That matters and I suspect that's largely down to Farage's visit.
I don't think you get to chose who can discuss what and when on here.
Yes, it's a day for celebration. But for others that celebration is tarnished somewhat by Ashton's actions. |  |
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