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Staying up 13:39 - May 3 with 1024 viewsdowsie3

I actually think we will have a better chance of staying up next season then last season the main reason is I think the premier league is weaker next year then when we last went up .When we got promoted in 24 the 3 teams who got promoted in 23 all got relegated this time you are going to get 2 established premier teams come down Wolves being one and either Spurs or West Ham . I can see us finishing above the other promoted teams and then just need to finish above 1 other team Sunderland or Leeds would be the 2 I would fancy us to finish above both could get 2nd season syndrome more so Sunderland IMO
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Staying up on 13:49 - May 3 with 962 viewsburnbudgiesburn

We have a better base on and off the pitch to work from but a lot is going to depend on recruitment and whether we get that right.

Also our style will be a lot more pragmatic from the start, I imagine 3 central defenders maybe.
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Staying up on 14:36 - May 3 with 861 viewsE_I_E_I_E_I_O

The average market value of our starting 11 now is I’d guess at 12-15M. Last time average was approx 3-5M. Add the fact we are more solid defensively which will stand us in better stead. Also we are a more attractive proposition to better players this time around. We’d have learned from previous mistakes. Without doubt we have a better chance staying up next season.
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Staying up on 14:52 - May 3 with 826 viewsChurchman

Staying up on 14:36 - May 3 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O

The average market value of our starting 11 now is I’d guess at 12-15M. Last time average was approx 3-5M. Add the fact we are more solid defensively which will stand us in better stead. Also we are a more attractive proposition to better players this time around. We’d have learned from previous mistakes. Without doubt we have a better chance staying up next season.


I dont understand your first sentence. You are not talking about transfer value, surely.

Anyway, we start from a much better place than last time. We know what we are up against. There wont be so much faffing with the football ground and we even have decent training facilities.

The players we have are better individually than those they replaced, for the most part. Evidence? Besides what I’ve witnessed our results against the parachute teams last time were tolerable but we were outplayed by all three of them and year two team WBA, spirit and attitude digging us out against Leicester and Southampton in particular. Leeds hammered us twice. We haven't been beaten like that by any of the top teams this time. The closest was Middlesbrough bettering us at their flat pack hovel.

We undoubtably need to strengthen in the forwards dept and midfield. It’s key for any team and for a promoted one like say Sunderland, utterly crucial. But i believe we have more, better players this time that are improving all the time as a team. I would like to see enhancement with a few key players rather than a replace the lot strategy.
[Post edited 3 May 16:19]
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Staying up on 15:52 - May 3 with 718 viewsstonojnr

Id need to see the fixture list first, see if we can build some confidence in results early on, and weve got to get someone who can score 20 goals a season, easily.

I mean everyone said our style of play was suited to the Premier league last time, and it turned out not quite that way.

plus you have to remember things like, every mistake you make in defence, ends up in a goal for the opposition, and we have made a fair few mistakes in defence this season.

some of the teams we play are built like rugby props and corner kicks turn into wrestling matches.

and then some of the other teams, like Arsenal, spend all their time throwing themselves to the ground at the merest touch, and always get freekicks, remember the big team ref bias

and sure Burnley/Wolves have been terrible this season, but I still think you need 40+ pts to stay up this season, and then you look at midtable and all those teams are very close on points. whilst Leeds,Palace & Forest are still in the relegation fight.

its going to be tricky I think.
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Staying up on 16:14 - May 3 with 670 viewsBroadbent23

We will have the aftermath of the World Cup where some early points could be available from overloaded players coming to grips starting a new season having played games in hot conditions. Also hopefully a much stronger squad might surprise a few teams. We just have to wait and see if KMc will still be our manager.

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Staying up on 16:49 - May 3 with 573 viewsGlasgowBlue

I hope we do. And it will be exciting to do so.

But after that it's going to be massive change to see us mid table every season rather than the three promotions we've been used to recently. Maybe we'll be like Burnley and win promotion every two season forever.

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Staying up on 16:58 - May 3 with 531 viewsSomethingBlue

Additionally, we are ready for it this time and won't be messing around.

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Staying up on 17:04 - May 3 with 503 viewsSwansea_Blue

Staying up on 14:36 - May 3 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O

The average market value of our starting 11 now is I’d guess at 12-15M. Last time average was approx 3-5M. Add the fact we are more solid defensively which will stand us in better stead. Also we are a more attractive proposition to better players this time around. We’d have learned from previous mistakes. Without doubt we have a better chance staying up next season.


Yeah, although for our back 5 we largely have the same players as last year and that didn’t end well. What the last year has done is hopefully given us the financial headway to step up a level in recruitment, so the players we signed for last time around effectively become our new backup. That would be the idea as I think we need at least 3 better starters in that back 5. Although I can see Dara still being a regular.

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Staying up on 22:45 - May 3 with 327 viewsE_I_E_I_E_I_O

Staying up on 14:52 - May 3 by Churchman

I dont understand your first sentence. You are not talking about transfer value, surely.

Anyway, we start from a much better place than last time. We know what we are up against. There wont be so much faffing with the football ground and we even have decent training facilities.

The players we have are better individually than those they replaced, for the most part. Evidence? Besides what I’ve witnessed our results against the parachute teams last time were tolerable but we were outplayed by all three of them and year two team WBA, spirit and attitude digging us out against Leicester and Southampton in particular. Leeds hammered us twice. We haven't been beaten like that by any of the top teams this time. The closest was Middlesbrough bettering us at their flat pack hovel.

We undoubtably need to strengthen in the forwards dept and midfield. It’s key for any team and for a promoted one like say Sunderland, utterly crucial. But i believe we have more, better players this time that are improving all the time as a team. I would like to see enhancement with a few key players rather than a replace the lot strategy.
[Post edited 3 May 16:19]


Walton 3M
Davis 20M
Furlong 3M
Greaves 15M
O’Shea 20M
Matisiwa £17
Taylor 4M
Clarke 23M
Philogene 23M
Nunez 7M
Hirst 7M

That’s a very approximate guess with little thought admittedly.
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Staying up on 23:06 - May 3 with 285 viewsBABLUE

Staying up on 22:45 - May 3 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O

Walton 3M
Davis 20M
Furlong 3M
Greaves 15M
O’Shea 20M
Matisiwa £17
Taylor 4M
Clarke 23M
Philogene 23M
Nunez 7M
Hirst 7M

That’s a very approximate guess with little thought admittedly.


Ross Barkley would be ideal in central midfield alongside Azor.

Still only 32 and out of contract at Villa.
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