| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:26 - May 14 with 3369 views | SitfcB |
Bit of a joke, maybe the EFL should pull their finger out of their arse. Hearing tomorrow apparently but why take so long.
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:26 - May 14 with 3357 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Getting to be a bit hard on Hull this. EFL Panel should really convene no later than Saturday and make a decision. A meeting on Tuesday is too late for me. |  |
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:28 - May 14 with 3339 views | gainsboroughblue |
A delay may well be the biggest hint yet that a Saints expulsion from the play-offs is a strong consideration. |  |
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:30 - May 14 with 3289 views | Illinoisblue |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:26 - May 14 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Getting to be a bit hard on Hull this. EFL Panel should really convene no later than Saturday and make a decision. A meeting on Tuesday is too late for me. |
Want Hull to win more than ever now. |  |
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:30 - May 14 with 3268 views | TractorJack |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:26 - May 14 by SitfcB |
Bit of a joke, maybe the EFL should pull their finger out of their arse. Hearing tomorrow apparently but why take so long.
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Was that to do with Southampton asking for more time? They should have said no! |  | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:32 - May 14 with 3211 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:26 - May 14 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Getting to be a bit hard on Hull this. EFL Panel should really convene no later than Saturday and make a decision. A meeting on Tuesday is too late for me. |
Yeah, really is. They're there on merit yet don't know who they're playing or preparing for (both Boro and Saints do). Not fair. |  | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:32 - May 14 with 3206 views | TractorJack |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:28 - May 14 by gainsboroughblue |
A delay may well be the biggest hint yet that a Saints expulsion from the play-offs is a strong consideration. |
How would that work? Hull get the win? | | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:33 - May 14 with 3164 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:32 - May 14 by TractorJack |
How would that work? Hull get the win? |
I was thinking more, Boro awarded the win from the other night. Dunno, thankfully, it's not my decision to make. | |
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:36 - May 14 with 3123 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:30 - May 14 by TractorJack |
Was that to do with Southampton asking for more time? They should have said no! |
I’ve heard it’s because S’ton haven’t been able to find a suitable tree for their analyst to hide behind outside the Hull training ground. They’ve lodged an official complaint with the EFL and Hull may need to get a horticulturist in. |  |
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:43 - May 14 with 3012 views | pingu67 |
If the EFL award a final place to boro, is there an appeal process saints can take which would delay things further? |  | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:46 - May 14 with 2979 views | stringy |
did the Boro players all go on holiday, or are their lives on hold waiting for a possible place in the final, in maybe two week's time? what a mess |  | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:48 - May 14 with 2939 views | bsw72 |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:43 - May 14 by pingu67 |
If the EFL award a final place to boro, is there an appeal process saints can take which would delay things further? |
I don't think so - EFL regulations exclude appealing to the Court of Arbitration for Sport as I understand it, and all clubs agree annually to abide to the regulations.
Plus what Saints are accused of is specifically prohibited in same regulations - while more complex obviously I think Saints are probably prepping the "Lone Wolf" defence and plead ignorance, although the fact they have not publicly suspended or fired the individual (although he is an intern) may also count against them.
Doesn't it make you glad that we are not where Hull are - this board would be in meltdown. [Post edited 14 May 16:49]
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:49 - May 14 with 2937 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:43 - May 14 by pingu67 |
If the EFL award a final place to boro, is there an appeal process saints can take which would delay things further? |
The trouble with just putting Boro in the final is that the suggested information out there is that this isn't an isolated incident.
If that is the case then then half the teams in the Play-offs + Wrexham have a grievance.
Millwall will argue they should have played Wrexham, Wrexham will rightfully sue for the lost revenue from not playing in these games etc etc
Saints will also obviously appeal whatever the result. | | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:51 - May 14 with 2893 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:46 - May 14 by stringy |
did the Boro players all go on holiday, or are their lives on hold waiting for a possible place in the final, in maybe two week's time? what a mess |
Think I read they've been given a couple of days off but told not to go away anywhere.
Its a right mess. | | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:52 - May 14 with 2877 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:46 - May 14 by stringy |
did the Boro players all go on holiday, or are their lives on hold waiting for a possible place in the final, in maybe two week's time? what a mess |
They're all on call apparently. Not allowed to go anywhere.
Hopefully they are all training.
It is a bit of a mess, could run and run with appeals and referrals to CAS no doubt. | |
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:55 - May 14 with 2795 views | pingu67 |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:48 - May 14 by bsw72 |
I don't think so - EFL regulations exclude appealing to the Court of Arbitration for Sport as I understand it, and all clubs agree annually to abide to the regulations.
Plus what Saints are accused of is specifically prohibited in same regulations - while more complex obviously I think Saints are probably prepping the "Lone Wolf" defence and plead ignorance, although the fact they have not publicly suspended or fired the individual (although he is an intern) may also count against them.
Doesn't it make you glad that we are not where Hull are - this board would be in meltdown. [Post edited 14 May 16:49]
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I'd be tempted to just give the promotion to hull
Over 2 legs they won by fair means over a very good millwall side
Whereas, while i have sympathy for boro, they ultimately, did not do enough to warrant a place in the final
Cheating is wrong, end of and saints know the potential punishment, but boro could have worked on multiple other strategies which wern't witnessed during spygate, various other set pieces etc and had additional training sessions after spygate to work through the games | | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:57 - May 14 with 2775 views | bsw72 |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:33 - May 14 by gainsboroughblue |
I was thinking more, Boro awarded the win from the other night. Dunno, thankfully, it's not my decision to make. |
The regulations stipulate spying within 72 hours of a fixture, so I reckon it would be the first leg which would be awarded to Boro as a 3-0 win, making it a 4-2 aggregate win overall. | | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:57 - May 14 with 2761 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:51 - May 14 by _CliveBaker_ |
Think I read they've been given a couple of days off but told not to go away anywhere.
Its a right mess. |
Delayed final is really going to put the winner behind the 8 ball compared to us and Cov when it comes to recruitment for next season. That's particularly harsh on Hull. | |
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 17:01 - May 14 with 2706 views | bsw72 |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:32 - May 14 by _CliveBaker_ |
Yeah, really is. They're there on merit yet don't know who they're playing or preparing for (both Boro and Saints do). Not fair. |
They could send a couple of spys to watch both sides train - technically it is outside of the 72 hours pre fixture so not impacted by the regulations. That may be a little antagonistic though. | | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 17:05 - May 14 with 2673 views | EastTownBlue |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:26 - May 14 by SitfcB |
Bit of a joke, maybe the EFL should pull their finger out of their arse. Hearing tomorrow apparently but why take so long.
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Yes, although as it concerns "richest game in football" some lawyers will be busy. | | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 17:05 - May 14 with 2674 views | bsw72 |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:26 - May 14 by SitfcB |
Bit of a joke, maybe the EFL should pull their finger out of their arse. Hearing tomorrow apparently but why take so long.
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Not really - EFL has got to make sure that their decision is so watertight from a legal aspect that it can't be challenged by anyone who is deemed to suffer as a result.
Imagine how much Geoff Cunningham and his team over at Clarion are billing the EFL (if they have gone back to him for external counsel). [Post edited 14 May 17:07]
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 17:07 - May 14 with 2635 views | billlm |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:55 - May 14 by pingu67 |
I'd be tempted to just give the promotion to hull
Over 2 legs they won by fair means over a very good millwall side
Whereas, while i have sympathy for boro, they ultimately, did not do enough to warrant a place in the final
Cheating is wrong, end of and saints know the potential punishment, but boro could have worked on multiple other strategies which wern't witnessed during spygate, various other set pieces etc and had additional training sessions after spygate to work through the games |
Very difficult hull have done nothing wrong,
Boro lost so do they deserve a chance probably not,
What a mess,
From our point of view I'd put hull in the premiership,
If hull lose to the saints in the final all hell will let loose,
If hull lose to Boro in the final all hell will let loose, |  | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 17:11 - May 14 with 2585 views | bsw72 |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 16:55 - May 14 by pingu67 |
I'd be tempted to just give the promotion to hull
Over 2 legs they won by fair means over a very good millwall side
Whereas, while i have sympathy for boro, they ultimately, did not do enough to warrant a place in the final
Cheating is wrong, end of and saints know the potential punishment, but boro could have worked on multiple other strategies which wern't witnessed during spygate, various other set pieces etc and had additional training sessions after spygate to work through the games |
As I understand, they can only award the game which was in breach of the regulations, so the first leg not both legs.
Precedent (prior EFL cancelled game) suggsts a forfeit result of 3-0 (in Boro's favour) so would mean a 4-2 aggregate win. Would have been even more complex if Southampton had won the second leg by 3 or more clear goals. | | | |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 17:16 - May 14 with 2524 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 17:11 - May 14 by bsw72 |
As I understand, they can only award the game which was in breach of the regulations, so the first leg not both legs.
Precedent (prior EFL cancelled game) suggsts a forfeit result of 3-0 (in Boro's favour) so would mean a 4-2 aggregate win. Would have been even more complex if Southampton had won the second leg by 3 or more clear goals. |
Technically 4-1 on aggregate as it wouldn't have needed the extra 30 mins! | |
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| Play off final could be delayed... on 17:24 - May 14 with 2460 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Play off final could be delayed... on 17:11 - May 14 by bsw72 |
As I understand, they can only award the game which was in breach of the regulations, so the first leg not both legs.
Precedent (prior EFL cancelled game) suggsts a forfeit result of 3-0 (in Boro's favour) so would mean a 4-2 aggregate win. Would have been even more complex if Southampton had won the second leg by 3 or more clear goals. |
But surely there are enormous betting issues with amending the facts after the result?
People will have bet on Soton to win, players to score, teams to progress.
You can't just go back and say that team won 3-0.
They had these pictures before the first leg even happened. | | | |
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