| Am I the only person 15:57 - May 17 with 847 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
that thinks Wolves might struggle next season?
Everyone seems to expect them to bounce straight back, but only about 25% of relegated clubs go straight back to the Premier League, and I just don't see a lot of fight from them, I could see West Ham or Spurs and potentially Burnley (depending on manager) doing it, but not Wolves. |  |
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| Am I the only person on 15:59 - May 17 with 817 views | Ace_High1 |
Wolves won’t they are poor and owners have had enough. No plan or strategy there they will be lower mid table.
Burnley may be around play offs but West Ham or Spurs will be strong along with Boro, Southampton, Norwich etc.
Think Millwall will fall away and loose best players. |  | | |
| Am I the only person on 16:03 - May 17 with 785 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I haven't seen those saying they will bounce straight back up personally.
Spurs would I am 99% sure. I wouldn't expect West Ham to (probably about 50:50 for me).
The others I think stand similar chances to the best of the ones still in it from the play offs and teams like nodge, brum, Wrexham etc. |  |
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| Am I the only person on 16:06 - May 17 with 755 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Am I the only person on 16:03 - May 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I haven't seen those saying they will bounce straight back up personally.
Spurs would I am 99% sure. I wouldn't expect West Ham to (probably about 50:50 for me).
The others I think stand similar chances to the best of the ones still in it from the play offs and teams like nodge, brum, Wrexham etc. |
I was thinking mainly in my circles, rather than on here.
That said, I have seem a few mention here how strong the Championship will be next season with the likes of Burnley, West Ham or Spuds AND Wolves in it. | |
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| Am I the only person on 16:06 - May 17 with 750 views | Coastalblue |
Wolves as a club are in a rare old state, a lot of their supporters are bracing themselves for a potential second succesive relegation scrap. Highly unlikely to be in the promotion mix. |  |
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| Am I the only person on 16:10 - May 17 with 732 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Am I the only person on 16:06 - May 17 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I was thinking mainly in my circles, rather than on here.
That said, I have seem a few mention here how strong the Championship will be next season with the likes of Burnley, West Ham or Spuds AND Wolves in it. |
I agree it will be strong next season.
But then I have consistently said it was strong this season too and that the lower points total supports that argument.
If Spurs are in it, that for me is a promotion spot gone straight away, though. | |
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| Am I the only person on 16:21 - May 17 with 681 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Top 2. Most of the players you haven’t seen fight from will be sold for a lot of money. |  |
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| Am I the only person on 16:22 - May 17 with 672 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Am I the only person on 16:10 - May 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I agree it will be strong next season.
But then I have consistently said it was strong this season too and that the lower points total supports that argument.
If Spurs are in it, that for me is a promotion spot gone straight away, though. |
And you were consistently very wrong. | |
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| Am I the only person on 16:23 - May 17 with 656 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Am I the only person on 16:22 - May 17 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
And you were consistently very wrong. |
Thanks for pointing that out again Mr Fount of All Wisdom. | |
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| Am I the only person on 16:26 - May 17 with 638 views | ParisBlue |
Their team will be unrecognisable from the current starting XI. They will spend a lot of money. With a decent manager you'd expect top 6 minimum.
Alas for them, Rob Edwards is not a decent manager.
Burnley I'd have my doubts about, their yo-yo cycle may be coming to an end, but again should have enough for top 6.
West Ham and/or Spurs will dominate the division imo much as Newcastle, Fulham have done before, will be interesting if other teams can compete (as we did with Leicester/Leeds in 23/24) [Post edited 17 May 16:30]
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| Am I the only person on 16:26 - May 17 with 632 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Am I the only person on 16:23 - May 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Thanks for pointing that out again Mr Fount of All Wisdom. |
No problem. I mean I’m not sure how anyone could watch Millwall and Hull duke it out in the playoffs and think it was a very strong division. One parachute team was falling to pieces, one appointed Will Still and we got off to a terrible start.
Coventry went on a god awful run and won the league by a distance. Some teams might have worked out how to make themselves a bit harder to beat but it was a bang average champ that is backed up by all the metrics. | |
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| Am I the only person on 16:28 - May 17 with 621 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Am I the only person on 16:26 - May 17 by ParisBlue |
Their team will be unrecognisable from the current starting XI. They will spend a lot of money. With a decent manager you'd expect top 6 minimum.
Alas for them, Rob Edwards is not a decent manager.
Burnley I'd have my doubts about, their yo-yo cycle may be coming to an end, but again should have enough for top 6.
West Ham and/or Spurs will dominate the division imo much as Newcastle, Fulham have done before, will be interesting if other teams can compete (as we did with Leicester/Leeds in 23/24) [Post edited 17 May 16:30]
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Already made a few moves to prepare like Armstrong. They will sell a couple of players for huge cash as well. | |
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| Am I the only person on 16:32 - May 17 with 594 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Am I the only person on 16:26 - May 17 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
No problem. I mean I’m not sure how anyone could watch Millwall and Hull duke it out in the playoffs and think it was a very strong division. One parachute team was falling to pieces, one appointed Will Still and we got off to a terrible start.
Coventry went on a god awful run and won the league by a distance. Some teams might have worked out how to make themselves a bit harder to beat but it was a bang average champ that is backed up by all the metrics. |
I've explained it to you. You won't listen. Just because a team is dull to watch it doesn't make them a poor team. Millwall, Preston and Hull were very good at what they did. So were Southampton and nodge. The fact that so many teams could beat each other makes it a much more competitive than a division where the top 4 consistently beat nearly all of the rest throughout the season.
But you carry on doing you. Perhaps you think the Scots Premier League is a tougher league because Rangers and Celtic win most of their games. | |
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| Am I the only person on 16:32 - May 17 with 593 views | GeoffSentence |
With regard to the percentage of relegated teams who bounce straight back, the 25% figure is a bit weighted by teams who get relegated in their first season back in the premier league. Only about 15% of those teams go straight back. This means two things, for clubs who have been in the premier league for a few seasons have a better chance of promotion, it's about 1/3 of them, and our achievement to get promoted straight back was harder than it appeared. |  |
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| Am I the only person on 16:37 - May 17 with 549 views | FrimleyBlue |
I think they'll be up there, Manager who knows the league, some signings like armstrong who know it too
I don't think Wolves are a luton or leicester, and if you think of last season 2 parachute clubs did fight for 2nd in the end. |  |
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| Am I the only person on 16:53 - May 17 with 498 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Am I the only person on 16:32 - May 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I've explained it to you. You won't listen. Just because a team is dull to watch it doesn't make them a poor team. Millwall, Preston and Hull were very good at what they did. So were Southampton and nodge. The fact that so many teams could beat each other makes it a much more competitive than a division where the top 4 consistently beat nearly all of the rest throughout the season.
But you carry on doing you. Perhaps you think the Scots Premier League is a tougher league because Rangers and Celtic win most of their games. |
So all the mainstay EFL teams that haven’t sniffed the playoffs or relegation for a while suddenly massively improved over a few months, sure
You’re on an island here the league was clearly pretty crap and the reason for the low points tally is literally the parachute clubs as explained. You’re just bias because we benefited from it.
A team with a transfer embargo is 1 win away from the PL.
To your Scottish analogy. Your parachute clubs didn’t get to Rangers and Celtic levels like most years, that’s basically the difference. Burnley or Leeds of 24/25 would have walked it. [Post edited 17 May 16:55]
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| Am I the only person on 17:35 - May 17 with 435 views | Churchman |
There are no guarantees for any of them. As Southampton and Leicester found, being in the PL for a decade or so doesn’t mean you’ll automatically return because of your ‘name’. Same applies to West Ham.
Leeds had the best team by a mile when on song two years ago yet failed. All three relegated teams struggled this year and certainly the bottom two are no better than them.
It’s easy to disrespect the Championship, not least because the parachute teams have an enormous advantage, but having seen it up close and personal two of the last three seasons, it’s not that easy, in my view. Lots of games, some cr@p pitches, hopeless refs, lots of well organised teams and a dirty great target on your back. |  | | |
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