| ‘Two Year Kier’ 05:25 - Jun 23 with 14370 views | Benters |
Heard that one this morning  |  |
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 05:45 - Jun 23 with 3343 views | LeoMuff |
So weird, a decent , honest chap who did very well in some aspects of the job but poorly in others.
Unfortunately had a problem that large swathes of the press would jump all over any slight mistake and his judgement on people and certain situations was very poor at times.
He was a vast improvement on Boris, Truss, Sunak all in all, who were in some cases openly corrupt |  |
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:07 - Jun 23 with 3213 views | NthQldITFC |
I trust that overnight you are similarly intellectually stimulated by the mobile over your cot? |  |
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:13 - Jun 23 with 3183 views | Benters |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:07 - Jun 23 by NthQldITFC |
I trust that overnight you are similarly intellectually stimulated by the mobile over your cot? |
Blub. | |
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:22 - Jun 23 with 3164 views | NthQldITFC |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:13 - Jun 23 by Benters |
Blub. |
Coochy-coochy-coo
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:37 - Jun 23 with 3115 views | BlueNomad |
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth (or comment online) and remove all doubt - Mark Twain |  | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:40 - Jun 23 with 3102 views | MattinLondon |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 05:45 - Jun 23 by LeoMuff |
So weird, a decent , honest chap who did very well in some aspects of the job but poorly in others.
Unfortunately had a problem that large swathes of the press would jump all over any slight mistake and his judgement on people and certain situations was very poor at times.
He was a vast improvement on Boris, Truss, Sunak all in all, who were in some cases openly corrupt |
To be fair to Benters, he comes across as a morally bankrupt lowlife and is consistent in only liking politicians (like Farage) who are the same. [Post edited 23 Jun 7:45]
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:41 - Jun 23 with 3099 views | nrb1985 |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:37 - Jun 23 by BlueNomad |
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth (or comment online) and remove all doubt - Mark Twain |
Jury can’t still be out for Benters on that point surely?!
You are after all talking about a chap who gets his kicks by being a windup merchant on a football msg board, where the majority of users think he’s t1t. |  | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:46 - Jun 23 with 3078 views | Benters |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:41 - Jun 23 by nrb1985 |
Jury can’t still be out for Benters on that point surely?!
You are after all talking about a chap who gets his kicks by being a windup merchant on a football msg board, where the majority of users think he’s t1t. |
Only the majority ? I must try harder  | |
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:49 - Jun 23 with 3060 views | NthQldITFC |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:46 - Jun 23 by Benters |
Only the majority ? I must try harder |
I have to admit, you do make I laugh in a good way sometimes. | |
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:53 - Jun 23 with 3014 views | waveneyblue |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:07 - Jun 23 by NthQldITFC |
I trust that overnight you are similarly intellectually stimulated by the mobile over your cot? |
Razor wit.
Lovely stuff |  | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:54 - Jun 23 with 3013 views | waveneyblue |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:40 - Jun 23 by MattinLondon |
To be fair to Benters, he comes across as a morally bankrupt lowlife and is consistent in only liking politicians (like Farage) who are the same. [Post edited 23 Jun 7:45]
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Such charming words.
Wonder what the reaction would be if he did the same to one of your lot.
Two tier TWTD.... | | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:54 - Jun 23 with 3032 views | jasondozzell |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 05:45 - Jun 23 by LeoMuff |
So weird, a decent , honest chap who did very well in some aspects of the job but poorly in others.
Unfortunately had a problem that large swathes of the press would jump all over any slight mistake and his judgement on people and certain situations was very poor at times.
He was a vast improvement on Boris, Truss, Sunak all in all, who were in some cases openly corrupt |
He was the very opposite of a decent honest chap. Johnson has more integrity frankly.
Stop swallowing the lazy media line and read up on what actually happened!
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:57 - Jun 23 with 3016 views | jasondozzell |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:40 - Jun 23 by MattinLondon |
To be fair to Benters, he comes across as a morally bankrupt lowlife and is consistent in only liking politicians (like Farage) who are the same. [Post edited 23 Jun 7:45]
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When it comes to the character and performance of Starmer, Benters is correct. | | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:59 - Jun 23 with 3007 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Hur hur hur, ets funnie cos et riyums. |  | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:59 - Jun 23 with 3003 views | Benters |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:49 - Jun 23 by NthQldITFC |
I have to admit, you do make I laugh in a good way sometimes. |
Goodo !  | |
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:05 - Jun 23 with 2968 views | MattinLondon |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:54 - Jun 23 by waveneyblue |
Such charming words.
Wonder what the reaction would be if he did the same to one of your lot.
Two tier TWTD.... |
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:09 - Jun 23 with 2947 views | nrb1985 |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:46 - Jun 23 by Benters |
Only the majority ? I must try harder |
Indeed my friend, indeed.
And thank you for taking the time out from licking windows or kicking around your local spoons to reply, or whatever else it is you do at 8am on a Tuesday usually. | | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:10 - Jun 23 with 2940 views | m14_blue |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:54 - Jun 23 by jasondozzell |
He was the very opposite of a decent honest chap. Johnson has more integrity frankly.
Stop swallowing the lazy media line and read up on what actually happened!
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I usually quite like the cut of your jib but this is utterly and objectively insane.
Starmer Derangement Syndrome......seemingly just as common on the left as the right. Social media has so much to answer for.
He was a fairly rubbish PM, who has made the possibility of Farage much more real. But less integrity than Johnson? You're either trolling or so far down the rabbit hole that it's too late to even try and understand how you've ended up actually believing that. | | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:11 - Jun 23 with 2934 views | Butterbing |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 07:46 - Jun 23 by Benters |
Only the majority ? I must try harder |
If you could try harder to make your idiocy less obvious you may get more bites. The glee you seem to get from being a troll is pretty pathetic. |  | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:12 - Jun 23 with 2930 views | Benters |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:09 - Jun 23 by nrb1985 |
Indeed my friend, indeed.
And thank you for taking the time out from licking windows or kicking around your local spoons to reply, or whatever else it is you do at 8am on a Tuesday usually. |
Today I’m on waterbutt duty,big old storm here in Benters. | |
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| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:14 - Jun 23 with 2913 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 05:45 - Jun 23 by LeoMuff |
So weird, a decent , honest chap who did very well in some aspects of the job but poorly in others.
Unfortunately had a problem that large swathes of the press would jump all over any slight mistake and his judgement on people and certain situations was very poor at times.
He was a vast improvement on Boris, Truss, Sunak all in all, who were in some cases openly corrupt |
An improvement from an incredibly low bar. His greatest success for me was nationalising the trains and freezing fares- exactly the kind of policy which directly improves lives and standards of living. On health, I’m always sceptical on government figures - there’s numerous examples of disingenuous reporting (eg Blair sending everyone to uni so they don’t count as NEET, reporting growth when per capita we’ve contracted). Regardless, waiting times in my area have INCREASED.
For me as something of a libertarian, and with a distrust of those in power, his authoritarian policies were deeply troubling. Locking up protesters, mandatory ID, removing some trials by jury is state overreach. | | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:17 - Jun 23 with 2893 views | jasondozzell |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:10 - Jun 23 by m14_blue |
I usually quite like the cut of your jib but this is utterly and objectively insane.
Starmer Derangement Syndrome......seemingly just as common on the left as the right. Social media has so much to answer for.
He was a fairly rubbish PM, who has made the possibility of Farage much more real. But less integrity than Johnson? You're either trolling or so far down the rabbit hole that it's too late to even try and understand how you've ended up actually believing that. |
Here's a good explanation from Bastani in 2021.
https://novaramedia.com/2021/0
Keir Starmer Is Just As Dishonest As Boris Johnson
Opinion
Keir Starmer Is Just As Dishonest As Boris Johnson
While the prime minister is honest about lying, the Labour leader still claims to be telling the truth.
by Aaron Bastani
29 September 2021
Keir Starmer at Labour conference in Brighton.
Keir Starmer at Labour conference in Brighton. (REUTERS/Hannah McKay)
A strange prospect has reared its head in recent months, its arrival so unlikely that even the most dogged of Starmer-sceptics could never have predicted it.
Over the weekend, as Labour’s annual conference got underway, this previously faint suspicion suddenly came through in high definition: Keir Starmer – a man who constantly appeals to decency and principle – appears to be no more honest than Boris Johnson. Indeed one could argue Starmer is less trustworthy than a prime minister whose calling card is caddish misbehaviour.
This may sound absurd, like the nonsensical grumblings of a leftist with a grudge, but allow me to explain.
When it comes to honesty there are three kinds of people. The first are honest and upstanding, they generally stick to their word and try not to deceive others. Although, of course, deceit may happen on occasion, they try their best to keep dishonesty to a minimum. When they stray they admit it.
The second kind are dishonest people who are open about the content of their character – individuals who are, in short, ‘honest liars’. Paradigmatic here is Silvio Berlusconi, the former Italian prime minister, who once claimed to be the “Jesus Christ of politics” because he makes sacrifices “for everyone” only to later concede, when investigated on charges of corruption, that he was not a saint and “you’ve all understood that”. In this regard, the media tycoon was the template for Donald Trump and Boris Johnson, with all three never guilty of hypocrisy – that cardinal sin in politics – because they never claimed to be honest in the first place. Unsurprisingly, many find such personalities reprehensible, yet others view them as a refreshing change and often amusing. Sure they lie, but everyone in politics does. That they are at least open about their moral failings means they aren’t really politicians at all.
The final category is the dishonest figure who claims to be a beacon of truth. While the likes of Berlusconi and Johnson are incapable of hypocrisy (and by extension shame) the problem for this kind of person – think Hilary Clinton or Matteo Renzi – is that, once caught out, the incongruity of their words and actions renders them entirely inauthentic. It is in this final category that Starmer now finds himself. | | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:24 - Jun 23 with 2848 views | Butterbing |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:17 - Jun 23 by jasondozzell |
Here's a good explanation from Bastani in 2021.
https://novaramedia.com/2021/0
Keir Starmer Is Just As Dishonest As Boris Johnson
Opinion
Keir Starmer Is Just As Dishonest As Boris Johnson
While the prime minister is honest about lying, the Labour leader still claims to be telling the truth.
by Aaron Bastani
29 September 2021
Keir Starmer at Labour conference in Brighton.
Keir Starmer at Labour conference in Brighton. (REUTERS/Hannah McKay)
A strange prospect has reared its head in recent months, its arrival so unlikely that even the most dogged of Starmer-sceptics could never have predicted it.
Over the weekend, as Labour’s annual conference got underway, this previously faint suspicion suddenly came through in high definition: Keir Starmer – a man who constantly appeals to decency and principle – appears to be no more honest than Boris Johnson. Indeed one could argue Starmer is less trustworthy than a prime minister whose calling card is caddish misbehaviour.
This may sound absurd, like the nonsensical grumblings of a leftist with a grudge, but allow me to explain.
When it comes to honesty there are three kinds of people. The first are honest and upstanding, they generally stick to their word and try not to deceive others. Although, of course, deceit may happen on occasion, they try their best to keep dishonesty to a minimum. When they stray they admit it.
The second kind are dishonest people who are open about the content of their character – individuals who are, in short, ‘honest liars’. Paradigmatic here is Silvio Berlusconi, the former Italian prime minister, who once claimed to be the “Jesus Christ of politics” because he makes sacrifices “for everyone” only to later concede, when investigated on charges of corruption, that he was not a saint and “you’ve all understood that”. In this regard, the media tycoon was the template for Donald Trump and Boris Johnson, with all three never guilty of hypocrisy – that cardinal sin in politics – because they never claimed to be honest in the first place. Unsurprisingly, many find such personalities reprehensible, yet others view them as a refreshing change and often amusing. Sure they lie, but everyone in politics does. That they are at least open about their moral failings means they aren’t really politicians at all.
The final category is the dishonest figure who claims to be a beacon of truth. While the likes of Berlusconi and Johnson are incapable of hypocrisy (and by extension shame) the problem for this kind of person – think Hilary Clinton or Matteo Renzi – is that, once caught out, the incongruity of their words and actions renders them entirely inauthentic. It is in this final category that Starmer now finds himself. |
That literally says nothing of note. Just one guys’s opinion of what constitutes honesty. Not sure how anyone can read that nonsense and allow it to affect their own opinions on Starmer. | | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:25 - Jun 23 with 2836 views | jasondozzell |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:24 - Jun 23 by Butterbing |
That literally says nothing of note. Just one guys’s opinion of what constitutes honesty. Not sure how anyone can read that nonsense and allow it to affect their own opinions on Starmer. |
Which of the three categories of person would you put Starmer in? | | | |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:25 - Jun 23 with 2837 views | Benters |
| ‘Two Year Kier’ on 08:11 - Jun 23 by Butterbing |
If you could try harder to make your idiocy less obvious you may get more bites. The glee you seem to get from being a troll is pretty pathetic. |
In your opinion. | |
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