| Prostate cancer petition re screening 20:53 - Jul 2 with 1758 views | Pinewoodblue |
https://petition.parliament.uk
This petition is around 8,000 signatures short to ensure a parliamentary debate.
I have a personal interest in this. Last autumn I sought medical help due to a bad back. Eventually a doctor thought Prostate. I was tested had a very high, abnormal reading. After all the tests & scans the result was the cancer had spread outside the Prostate, been carried around my body and was found to be widespread to lymph nodes, bones and bone marrow. Too late to be cured. Only treatment offered is palliative. Hormone treatment as Cancer feeds off testosterone. On injections for life, or until the injections stop working, in reality chemical castration.
The more people who are screened, the more lives will be saved.
Not looking for sympathy just a few minutes of your time and your name added to the petition.
I am currently looking for a way to arrange a cost free testing session locally . If it comes to fruition will let everyone know.
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 20:54 - Jul 2 with 1454 views | redrickstuhaart |
What do the actual experts say about its overall benefits against negatives?
I recall listening to a careful and persuasive analysis to the effect that the impact would be an overall negative. |  |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 20:55 - Jul 2 with 1431 views | WickhamsLeftBoot |
Signed. |  | | |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 21:15 - Jul 2 with 1367 views | DJR |
I just signed it. [Post edited 2 Jul 21:15]
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 21:39 - Jul 2 with 1319 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 20:54 - Jul 2 by redrickstuhaart |
What do the actual experts say about its overall benefits against negatives?
I recall listening to a careful and persuasive analysis to the effect that the impact would be an overall negative. |
https://chaps-uk.org/informati
A locally based charity, just over the border in Essex.
The founder has been involved for over ten years promoting more effective screening on a European wide basis.
When the body responsible for the recent study into screening asked members of the public to comment I was one of less than 1,000 did so, I was one of them as a result I was provided access to the full report including copies of all evidence submitted from interested parties, both for and against.
https://runningintocancer.co.u also worth a read click prostate cancer screening let’s look at the numbers | |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 21:56 - Jul 2 with 1275 views | BloomBlue |
Sorry to hear you news
For others, Please remember anyone over 50 can request a PSA test, its not based on risk.
Yes, your doctor will explain the benefits and disadvantages of the test to help you decide if you still want it, but that screening option is available now, you don't have to wait for national screening to be implemented. |  | | |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 21:59 - Jul 2 with 1264 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 21:39 - Jul 2 by Pinewoodblue |
https://chaps-uk.org/informati
A locally based charity, just over the border in Essex.
The founder has been involved for over ten years promoting more effective screening on a European wide basis.
When the body responsible for the recent study into screening asked members of the public to comment I was one of less than 1,000 did so, I was one of them as a result I was provided access to the full report including copies of all evidence submitted from interested parties, both for and against.
https://runningintocancer.co.u also worth a read click prostate cancer screening let’s look at the numbers |
That last article is a fascinating read adjacent to the justification used to limit screening, which is that screening only leads to unnecessary interventions. I know it’s only a blog, yet it’s food for thought nonetheless. |  |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 22:05 - Jul 2 with 1260 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 21:56 - Jul 2 by BloomBlue |
Sorry to hear you news
For others, Please remember anyone over 50 can request a PSA test, its not based on risk.
Yes, your doctor will explain the benefits and disadvantages of the test to help you decide if you still want it, but that screening option is available now, you don't have to wait for national screening to be implemented. |
Not every GP will agree. There are also cases where a man sees his GP about another issue and suggests they have a PSA test which comes back positive.
It is reckoned if you randomly tested 100 men 8 will test positive, many of these will then be tested periodically and never end up with any treatment. Prostate Cancer can however be aggressive and the sooner this comes to light the better the outcome. | |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 22:08 - Jul 2 with 1249 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 21:59 - Jul 2 by Swansea_Blue |
That last article is a fascinating read adjacent to the justification used to limit screening, which is that screening only leads to unnecessary interventions. I know it’s only a blog, yet it’s food for thought nonetheless. |
The writer of the blog was diagnosed 10 years ago, it had spread to his bones no cure. He has taken part in many trials and now works closely with prostate cancer research charities. A victims representative. | |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 22:20 - Jul 2 with 1201 views | IndependentlyBlue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 21:56 - Jul 2 by BloomBlue |
Sorry to hear you news
For others, Please remember anyone over 50 can request a PSA test, its not based on risk.
Yes, your doctor will explain the benefits and disadvantages of the test to help you decide if you still want it, but that screening option is available now, you don't have to wait for national screening to be implemented. |
Can’t but support this. If you’re over 50 and/or in a high risk group get yourself tested. PSA testing isn’t a perfect answer and there is a chance of false negatives and false positives but, for the moment, that’s what we have.
Have recommended this before and make no apologies for doing so again. Give a listen to the BBC podcasts “Jon Holmes Says the C-Word”. Think there’s about six of them. They’re not just about prostate cancer but about cancer in men generally. Lot of stuff about prostate cancer though. A lot of interviews with various celebs who’ve had it and some great stories. Very well done, bloo*y funny, informative and pulls no punches. |  |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 22:27 - Jul 2 with 1191 views | WeWereZombies |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 08:58 - Jul 3 with 994 views | BloomBlue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 22:05 - Jul 2 by Pinewoodblue |
Not every GP will agree. There are also cases where a man sees his GP about another issue and suggests they have a PSA test which comes back positive.
It is reckoned if you randomly tested 100 men 8 will test positive, many of these will then be tested periodically and never end up with any treatment. Prostate Cancer can however be aggressive and the sooner this comes to light the better the outcome. |
That maybe the case, but its an option. This is what I don't understand with the screening program, if people aren't going to at least try for the option that is available now to test for prostrate are they going to take up the option of using a screening program?
Some times in life you have to get off your ar&e and actually request something.
Can I also add, demand the PSA test from the GP, its a NHS option for you.
As the maternity services review demonstrated this week the so-called experts are often wrong. Children died because NHS so-called experts ignored the mothers, they acted like masters of the universe, I'm a doctor I'm right, your wrong. Demand the PSA from your GP, if they say no remind them of their incompetent colleagues in the maternity service who ignored their patients and that resulted in the death of children. Stop viewing Doctors as God like status | | | |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 08:59 - Jul 3 with 987 views | naa |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 20:54 - Jul 2 by redrickstuhaart |
What do the actual experts say about its overall benefits against negatives?
I recall listening to a careful and persuasive analysis to the effect that the impact would be an overall negative. |
The standard test has a very high rate of false positives, which is why they aren't keen on making it a full screening. The knock on would be a massive load on the NHS.
It's a tough one - as so many things are, sadly. | | | |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 09:33 - Jul 3 with 929 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 08:59 - Jul 3 by naa |
The standard test has a very high rate of false positives, which is why they aren't keen on making it a full screening. The knock on would be a massive load on the NHS.
It's a tough one - as so many things are, sadly. |
The phrase that appeared frequently in the report was “ cost effectiveness “ which explains a lot.
The NHS would need more money to carry out more MRI scans, the next step after a PSA test. This means either providing more money to NHS or making cuts elsewhere.
The cost of late diagnosis is significantly higher, not just in monetary terms but also the quality of life of those impacted. Not just the individual concerned it impacts on family members. | |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 09:36 - Jul 3 with 924 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 09:33 - Jul 3 by Pinewoodblue |
The phrase that appeared frequently in the report was “ cost effectiveness “ which explains a lot.
The NHS would need more money to carry out more MRI scans, the next step after a PSA test. This means either providing more money to NHS or making cuts elsewhere.
The cost of late diagnosis is significantly higher, not just in monetary terms but also the quality of life of those impacted. Not just the individual concerned it impacts on family members. |
The cost of false positives or picking up non aggressive stuff is also huge. Not just monetarily but for actual medical outcomes across a population. Sometimes experts and statisticians do know what they are saying. | |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 10:06 - Jul 3 with 885 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 09:36 - Jul 3 by redrickstuhaart |
The cost of false positives or picking up non aggressive stuff is also huge. Not just monetarily but for actual medical outcomes across a population. Sometimes experts and statisticians do know what they are saying. |
.PSA stands for Prostate-Specific Antigen, a protein measured in a blood test to check for prostate health issues.
There are other things, apart from having Prostate Cancer, that will give a high PSA reading for example recent sex or riding a bike. Asking a few personal questions and performing a DRE ( digital rectum examination aka finger up the bum) can avoid the cost of an MRI which in turn may avoid the need for a biopsy.
Picking up non aggressive prostate cancer , especially in youngsters ( aged 40 -50) is a good thing as it leads to active surveillance. The earlier the need for action the better it is for everyone involved. | |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 10:15 - Jul 3 with 873 views | blueislander |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 20:54 - Jul 2 by redrickstuhaart |
What do the actual experts say about its overall benefits against negatives?
I recall listening to a careful and persuasive analysis to the effect that the impact would be an overall negative. |
I believe that the main argument against mass screening is over diagnosis, which is pretty crazy and far worse than under diagnosing, i had a PSA test every year as routine and one showed a slightly raised PSA level.GP sent me to the Urologist andd three weeks later had the prostrate removed. It has had some side effects , but, fortunatle no reoccurence of cancer. | | | |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 13:30 - Jul 3 with 770 views | OldFart71 |
Unless you do a scan PSA testing alone doesn't guarantee that you have prostate cancer or that you do,
I was diagnosed back in 2019. No associated problems, just a lady Doctor who asked when I had last been checked and I said" A couple of years ago" in fact it was five,
She sent me for a scan after having a feel around which showed spots of cancer.
The follow up was a biopsy which confirmed level 1.
I had a choice to start treatment or go on a "watch and wait" which I did.
Receiving a PSA test every 6 months. The start off PSA was under one. By 2022 it had risen to five so I was advised treatment.Due to a holiday coming up they put me on hormone treatment until April when I started a course of radiotherapy for six weeks. Then I rang the bell to say I was clear. I now have a PSA check every six months.
As I say PSA alone doesn't detect prostate cancer as some people will find their PSA in the hundreds. Mine was as I say 1, rising to 5.
I think many may have died in the passed as having a pee several times a night was regarded as an old mans thing.
Get checked out if you have any problems and even if you don't there'sa no harm in requesting a check up. | | | |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 13:50 - Jul 3 with 729 views | Radlett_blue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 20:54 - Jul 2 by redrickstuhaart |
What do the actual experts say about its overall benefits against negatives?
I recall listening to a careful and persuasive analysis to the effect that the impact would be an overall negative. |
Agreed. If a person has a high PSA reading (PSA readings get higher with age) they often understandably clamour for urgent treatment , but the reality is that many cancers are very slow growing & prostate cancer treatments often have unpleasant side effects & the patient is often better off living with it, although it should be monitored regularly. |  |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 13:50 - Jul 3 with 730 views | IndependentlyBlue |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 10:06 - Jul 3 by Pinewoodblue |
.PSA stands for Prostate-Specific Antigen, a protein measured in a blood test to check for prostate health issues.
There are other things, apart from having Prostate Cancer, that will give a high PSA reading for example recent sex or riding a bike. Asking a few personal questions and performing a DRE ( digital rectum examination aka finger up the bum) can avoid the cost of an MRI which in turn may avoid the need for a biopsy.
Picking up non aggressive prostate cancer , especially in youngsters ( aged 40 -50) is a good thing as it leads to active surveillance. The earlier the need for action the better it is for everyone involved. |
Just a caution about the digital rectal examination (DRE).
In my case I passed blood, went to the GP who gave me a DRE and said all seemed ok. Sent me to hospital for further tests after PSA test showed elevated levels. Had another DRE at hospital which again seemed ok. Doctor at hospital said the DRE test was only useful for one side of the prostate and suggested camera down my c*ck, which showed it was definitely prostate cancer. Biopsy showed it was Stage 3 but treatable with radiotherapy and hormone treatment.
If the GP had just accepted that all was ok after DRE the cancer, which was aggressive, would have continued to grow. | |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 14:02 - Jul 3 with 707 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Done and Done |  |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 14:08 - Jul 3 with 700 views | Plums |
SIgned. Sorry to hear your diagnosis - wishing you and your family all the best.
Both my dad and father in-law had this awful disease. The more early interventions, the better. |  |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 14:18 - Jul 3 with 680 views | Pettabelieveit |
Signed.
Wishing you all the best. | | | |
| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 14:23 - Jul 3 with 649 views | Whos_blue |
The issues regarding the PSA test are fairly well known (if you happen to research it) but on balance I feel this is a good idea and have signed. |  |
| "Look, I don't wanna be the same as everybody else. That's why I'm a Mod, see?" |
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| Prostate cancer petition re screening on 14:56 - Jul 3 with 610 views | waldenblue7 |
Signed.
Sorry to hear your news. | | | |
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