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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth 15:58 - Jul 23 with 2440 viewsgiant_stow

6 shops hit and 10 thousand ciggies confiscated.

I wonder if Rupert Lowe is finally slightly out of step with some of his people:

"Rupert Lowe, MP for Yarmouth, said: "Residents across the Great Yarmouth community are sick and tired of seeing blatant fronts operating on our high streets when so many law-abiding businesses are suffering from such a challenging economic climate.

"This is welcome progress."

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I would have thought these shops wouldn't sell them if people didn't want to buy them.

Personally, I think illicit fags are what happens when a tax becomes extortionate and unreasonable. For those who don't know, even the cheapest low-grade brand now costs £15ish per packet, while the better brands are £20ish. Whereas illicit fags can cost in my experience, roughly £5 or £6 per pack.

Know this won;t be a popular post, but so be it.

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:01 - Jul 23 with 1807 viewsBlueBadger

The 'extortionate' tax on tobacco is kind of the point.....

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:03 - Jul 23 with 1786 viewsElderGrizzly

Rupert's people would no doubt love the fact this has happened given who tends to run/own these shops
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:03 - Jul 23 with 1786 viewsJ2BLUE

Are you suggesting if people want to buy something they should just turn a blind eye? Many people want to buy cocaine and other illegal items.

Kind of a weird angle IMO
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:04 - Jul 23 with 1774 viewsJ2BLUE

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:03 - Jul 23 by ElderGrizzly

Rupert's people would no doubt love the fact this has happened given who tends to run/own these shops


Who would that be?
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:05 - Jul 23 with 1763 viewsgiant_stow

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:01 - Jul 23 by BlueBadger

The 'extortionate' tax on tobacco is kind of the point.....


Yeah it is, but I think we may be into diminishing returns there now, without looking at the stats, that is. Anyone who's not given up or smoking vapes now is in my view, unlikely to put off by high prices. I could easily be wrong, accepted, but that's how it feels here at least.

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:09 - Jul 23 with 1726 viewsElderGrizzly

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:04 - Jul 23 by J2BLUE

Who would that be?


Those of a non-English nature.
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:09 - Jul 23 with 1729 viewsgiant_stow

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:03 - Jul 23 by J2BLUE

Are you suggesting if people want to buy something they should just turn a blind eye? Many people want to buy cocaine and other illegal items.

Kind of a weird angle IMO


No, not at all - just i think his celebration of this may be out of step with some folk. They've become a fact of life and round my way, are in most shops - even normal-looking corner shops, but almost certainly, every vape shop.

My wider point is that huge tax has helped create this situation and if the goal of such tax was to put people off smoking, it may now be having unintended consequences. Hooky fags are everywhere and if counterfit (as opposed to smuggled) they're even worse for you potentially. .
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:10 - Jul 23 with 1706 viewsJ2BLUE

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:09 - Jul 23 by ElderGrizzly

Those of a non-English nature.


Interesting.
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:16 - Jul 23 with 1652 viewsElderGrizzly

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:10 - Jul 23 by J2BLUE

Interesting.


He's said the same about Turkish barber shops.

He is one of the most racist and xenophobic politicians out there. None of this should be a surprise or 'interesting' to anyone.

He has said Britain should not "import millions of Pakistanis and Indians" to fill jobs that he claims unemployed British citizens can do, stating on social media, "If that makes me a racist, then so be it.

He expressed public disgust at seeing families with women wearing burkas, stating on social media that it is "not normal" and that he "detests it.

He has talked of deporting legally settled migrants from certain South Asian and Middle Eastern countries too.

He is a horrific human being.
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:19 - Jul 23 with 1622 viewsTampa_Florida_Blue

I for one think they are not taxed heavy enough. I say make them £200 a pack. If people want to waste money help them along with it 🤔
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:21 - Jul 23 with 1592 viewsgiant_stow

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:19 - Jul 23 by Tampa_Florida_Blue

I for one think they are not taxed heavy enough. I say make them £200 a pack. If people want to waste money help them along with it 🤔


How much is a packet of 20 in the US now, out of interest?

I remember going Australia years and years back and being shocked at the cost there, so presumably, they must be now nearing your preferred price levels there!

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:26 - Jul 23 with 1497 viewsTampa_Florida_Blue

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:21 - Jul 23 by giant_stow

How much is a packet of 20 in the US now, out of interest?

I remember going Australia years and years back and being shocked at the cost there, so presumably, they must be now nearing your preferred price levels there!


I honestly don’t know. In my circle no one smokes. 3 years ago it was around $13 a pack.
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:29 - Jul 23 with 1463 viewsOldFart71

It makes you wonder whether this cut in business rates will make any difference to the price of a pint. I popped into my local for a Peroni a few days ago. £6.20. There were a handful of people in there. Not being able to go to PR due to ticket availability I will probably venture to the pub to watch televised games with my Son-in-law. So a couple of rounds each with not much change out of £25.
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:29 - Jul 23 with 1457 viewsgiant_stow

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:26 - Jul 23 by Tampa_Florida_Blue

I honestly don’t know. In my circle no one smokes. 3 years ago it was around $13 a pack.


interesting. I had a google on Aus:

"A standard packet of legal cigarettes in Australia costs between $45 and $55 AUD (roughly £24 to £29). Driven by aggressive government excise taxes to deter smoking, Australia has some of the highest tobacco prices in the world.Because of these steep increases, a large, unregulated black market has emerged with illicit packets often selling for much less."

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:31 - Jul 23 with 1436 viewsnoggin

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:09 - Jul 23 by ElderGrizzly

Those of a non-English nature.


Bloody Welsh people, coming over here....

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:32 - Jul 23 with 1413 viewsIllinoisblue

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:21 - Jul 23 by giant_stow

How much is a packet of 20 in the US now, out of interest?

I remember going Australia years and years back and being shocked at the cost there, so presumably, they must be now nearing your preferred price levels there!


Around $12 for a pack of Marlboro lights.

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:35 - Jul 23 with 1380 viewsfloridablue

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:21 - Jul 23 by giant_stow

How much is a packet of 20 in the US now, out of interest?

I remember going Australia years and years back and being shocked at the cost there, so presumably, they must be now nearing your preferred price levels there!


Another Florida blue here. I've just asked a lady friend who works in one of the major supermarket stores here, and she said the cheapest are just under $5 up to $14 ish for Marlborough
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:35 - Jul 23 with 1363 viewsnoggin

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:32 - Jul 23 by Illinoisblue

Around $12 for a pack of Marlboro lights.


58 pence for 20 when I started. (or 5p for a single off the ice cream man) Never did us any harm. Cough.

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:37 - Jul 23 with 1337 viewsgiant_stow

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:35 - Jul 23 by noggin

58 pence for 20 when I started. (or 5p for a single off the ice cream man) Never did us any harm. Cough.


My corner shop still does singles. Not good.

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:48 - Jul 23 with 1258 viewsfloridablue

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:35 - Jul 23 by noggin

58 pence for 20 when I started. (or 5p for a single off the ice cream man) Never did us any harm. Cough.


My last year of school, 69/70 I was given 2 shillings (10p) a day to buy my school lunch. With that I could buy fish & chips for half that from the chip shop in Upper Brook St and a cigarette dispensary a pack of 5 Woodbine for a shilling (5p). My school was Tower Ramparts in the town centre.
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:49 - Jul 23 with 1260 viewsBloomBlue

100% of illicit fags are made by slave labour, so if people are OK with the slave trade then no problems buying the illicit fags.
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:59 - Jul 23 with 1190 viewsnoggin

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:49 - Jul 23 by BloomBlue

100% of illicit fags are made by slave labour, so if people are OK with the slave trade then no problems buying the illicit fags.


Who made the t-shirt you're wearing and how were their working conditions?
You might not be wearing a t-shirt but you get the point.

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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 17:06 - Jul 23 with 1159 viewsbsw72

Illegal cigarettes are basically one of the revenue streams for organised crime - and it is surprising how many are actually made in the UK rather than imported through "forced" labour.

I gave up smoking 15+ years ago, one of the best decisions I ever made - I have little sympathy for those who still smoke when there are alternatives with patches, gum to hlp ween off etc, and no, I don't consider vaping a viable alternative as it concerns me what chemicals are in those things.
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 17:09 - Jul 23 with 1138 viewsbsw72

Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 16:59 - Jul 23 by noggin

Who made the t-shirt you're wearing and how were their working conditions?
You might not be wearing a t-shirt but you get the point.


Difference is the clothes you are wearing might and might not have been made in poor or forced worker conditions and even supporte some criminal enterprise, however if you smoke illegal / counterfiet cigarettes then they have 100% supported some criminal activity.

You might not know where your t-shirt was made but you get the point.
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Illicit fags bust in Yarmouth on 18:37 - Jul 23 with 925 viewsSitfcB

If people want to buy ‘illegal’ fags and tobacco then good luck to them I say. We all have to save a bit here and there.

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