| Substitutions under GON 18:20 - Aug 5 with 1376 views | TwoKnightsInIpswich |
I'm not knocking KM for how he changed our club but I'm actually looking forward to seeing how substitutions can be used to change formation or close out a game.
Under KM we could pretty much say who was being substituted and at what minute of the game. It was almost substitutions were predetermined before the game and they happened if we were winning or not.
It will be interesting to see how GON uses his substitutes in the first few games. |  |
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| Substitutions under GON on 18:24 - Aug 5 with 1314 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Is this narrative about KM not being good at using subs still a thing. |  |
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| Substitutions under GON on 18:33 - Aug 5 with 1208 views | TwoKnightsInIpswich |
| Substitutions under GON on 18:24 - Aug 5 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Is this narrative about KM not being good at using subs still a thing. |
No.
His use of substitutes worked fine in League 1 and Championship. It was ineffective, for several reasons, in Premier League.
It will be nice to be unpredictable for a change. | |
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| Substitutions under GON on 18:34 - Aug 5 with 1199 views | SitfcB |
| Substitutions under GON on 18:24 - Aug 5 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Is this narrative about KM not being good at using subs still a thing. |
Swear we had the most goal involvements from substitutes over a season a couple of times  |  |
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| Substitutions under GON on 18:35 - Aug 5 with 1151 views | BlueySwede |
McKenna more often than not made exactly the right substitutions, in my opinion.
However, I am more interested in whether O'Neil will use a more regular starting eleven. McKenna's rotation policy worked well, but there can be benefits to rotating a bit less too. It will be exciting to see. |  | | |
| Substitutions under GON on 18:43 - Aug 5 with 1050 views | BloomBlue |
KMs subs was one of the main reasons we won promotions, hopefully GOs subs will as successful. |  | | |
| Substitutions under GON on 18:44 - Aug 5 with 1044 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Substitutions under GON on 18:33 - Aug 5 by TwoKnightsInIpswich |
No.
His use of substitutes worked fine in League 1 and Championship. It was ineffective, for several reasons, in Premier League.
It will be nice to be unpredictable for a change. |
He was bringing on Harness and Al Hamadi.
He could've made them in minute 7 or 70 and it probably wouldn't have made a difference lol. | |
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| Substitutions under GON on 18:44 - Aug 5 with 1040 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Substitutions under GON on 18:34 - Aug 5 by SitfcB |
Swear we had the most goal involvements from substitutes over a season a couple of times |
Oops, fat thumbs.
Meant to give you an uppy, but down-voted by mistake! |  |
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| Substitutions under GON on 18:45 - Aug 5 with 1032 views | BlueBadger |
If GoN is half as good at tactical subs as KM, we'll be doing well. |  |
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| Substitutions under GON on 18:58 - Aug 5 with 922 views | Garv |
It might be interesting, but it might not. It's a common criticism of managers that they don't make subs early enough or that they're predictable.
McKenna managed his squad superbly, so it's no surprise a lot of subs probably were premeditated. GON might not be quite the same, but that could cause other challenges.
It should be very interesting in general how it all goes. |  |
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| Substitutions under GON on 19:14 - Aug 5 with 794 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Substitutions under GON on 18:33 - Aug 5 by TwoKnightsInIpswich |
No.
His use of substitutes worked fine in League 1 and Championship. It was ineffective, for several reasons, in Premier League.
It will be nice to be unpredictable for a change. |
Probably down to options available as much as anything. When he had a surplus of attacking players he could rely on, being able to swap out the 3 or 4 of the front four became our signature move. It was effective allowing us to press from the front for 90 mins, so there was no need to do anything differently. He wasn’t swapping out others because we didn’t have the same depth in other positions.
In the PL, the quality wasn’t there so he delayed subs as I suspect he knew our best shot was often with the starters and the subs would have less impact.
Maybe. |  |
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| Substitutions under GON on 19:17 - Aug 5 with 783 views | nrb1985 |
| Substitutions under GON on 18:45 - Aug 5 by BlueBadger |
If GoN is half as good at tactical subs as KM, we'll be doing well. |
Nah.
Granted 3 promotions in 5 years but his subs being sh1t is the thing many armchair pundits miss.
Glad this OP has raised it tbh - needs to be spoken about. | | | |
| Substitutions under GON on 20:15 - Aug 5 with 492 views | Steve_M |
| Substitutions under GON on 18:34 - Aug 5 by SitfcB |
Swear we had the most goal involvements from substitutes over a season a couple of times |
Don't forget most of our players were "overcoached" too. |  |
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| Substitutions under GON on 20:33 - Aug 5 with 390 views | naa |
| Substitutions under GON on 19:17 - Aug 5 by nrb1985 |
Nah.
Granted 3 promotions in 5 years but his subs being sh1t is the thing many armchair pundits miss.
Glad this OP has raised it tbh - needs to be spoken about. |
Absolute tosh.
I mean, if you ignore the large number of times his subs made the difference then yes you make a valid point.
In the prem he had few options, in the other leagues his subs often made a big difference.
Did he often change style and formation with his subs? No. But the world cup should have shown how that often fails.
Just realised I think you were taking the Mick. At least I hope you were? [Post edited 5 Aug 20:36]
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| Substitutions under GON on 20:37 - Aug 5 with 372 views | nrb1985 |
| Substitutions under GON on 20:33 - Aug 5 by naa |
Absolute tosh.
I mean, if you ignore the large number of times his subs made the difference then yes you make a valid point.
In the prem he had few options, in the other leagues his subs often made a big difference.
Did he often change style and formation with his subs? No. But the world cup should have shown how that often fails.
Just realised I think you were taking the Mick. At least I hope you were? [Post edited 5 Aug 20:36]
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“ Just realised I think you were taking the Mick”
There you go, nailed it! | | | |
| Substitutions under GON on 21:31 - Aug 5 with 139 views | lazyblue |
How many times did his substitutions change games, pretty much every game. | | | |
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