| Farage bails on Clacton - again 05:03 - Aug 14 with 4762 views | Zx1988 |
Not attending the count this time. Assuming he wins, it'll be the first time a winning candidate has not attended their count since Bobby Sands.
Think it's a bit late on the 'demeaned and humiliated' front, Nige. |  |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 16:08 - Aug 14 with 997 views | BlueBadger |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 08:58 - Aug 14 by Dubtractor |
Because none of them have a sense of humour. |
They don't do they? The 'jokes' they favour are generally of the 'just jokes, like on Top Gear' variety. [Post edited 14 Aug 17:09]
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 16:56 - Aug 14 with 927 views | BlueBadger |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 08:17 - Aug 14 by Dubtractor |
Also, its the Lefty Attack Squad, not leftist, and i coined it as a self deprecating term so it doesn't really work as a serious insult. |
Does this replace the Lefty Bumfest or is it a spin-off? | |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 17:00 - Aug 14 with 922 views | DanTheMan |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 16:56 - Aug 14 by BlueBadger |
Does this replace the Lefty Bumfest or is it a spin-off? |
Unlicensed split-off.
SPLITTERS! |  |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 17:27 - Aug 14 with 884 views | BlueForYou |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 11:16 - Aug 14 by positivity |
if you can't see the difference in the purely selfish farge whose corruption is laid bare and chooses to waste public money on a novelty contest to deflect attention, then i think you're too deeply into the cult to see logic
and to then demand to waste millions more public money on a general election, that pretty much nobody wants, is incredible! |
Labour wasted money on the Makerfield election, which then meant a further election for Manchester Mayor. How much did that waste?? I'm not taking any sides, just saying that what's fair for one must then be fair for another. When I was outraged about Tory unelected PMs, so am I about this unelected Labour PM. Seems to me there are some extremely one eyed people on here. You can't have it both ways. |  | | |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 17:33 - Aug 14 with 878 views | positivity |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 17:27 - Aug 14 by BlueForYou |
Labour wasted money on the Makerfield election, which then meant a further election for Manchester Mayor. How much did that waste?? I'm not taking any sides, just saying that what's fair for one must then be fair for another. When I was outraged about Tory unelected PMs, so am I about this unelected Labour PM. Seems to me there are some extremely one eyed people on here. You can't have it both ways. |
so what you're saying is
a) you don't want a by-election in order to bring in a popular pm for the good of the country, because it's a waste of money
b) you do want an unnecessary and uncalled-for general election (cf.650 by-elections), because it's a good use of money?
you can't have it both ways! | |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 17:58 - Aug 14 with 850 views | BlueForYou |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 17:33 - Aug 14 by positivity |
so what you're saying is
a) you don't want a by-election in order to bring in a popular pm for the good of the country, because it's a waste of money
b) you do want an unnecessary and uncalled-for general election (cf.650 by-elections), because it's a good use of money?
you can't have it both ways! |
That is not what I said is it. What's fair for one, is then fair for the other one. [Post edited 14 Aug 17:59]
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 18:07 - Aug 14 with 823 views | positivity |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 17:58 - Aug 14 by BlueForYou |
That is not what I said is it. What's fair for one, is then fair for the other one. [Post edited 14 Aug 17:59]
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it's exactly what you said.
can you honestly not see the difference in outcome between makerfield (change of prime minister) and clacton (one person's vanity project in a vain attempt to distract from his corruption)?
how can you be against a single by-election, but pro 650 simultaneous by-elections which would bring massive negative consequences for the country? | |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 18:49 - Aug 14 with 771 views | BlueForYou |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 18:07 - Aug 14 by positivity |
it's exactly what you said.
can you honestly not see the difference in outcome between makerfield (change of prime minister) and clacton (one person's vanity project in a vain attempt to distract from his corruption)?
how can you be against a single by-election, but pro 650 simultaneous by-elections which would bring massive negative consequences for the country? |
Where did I say I was against a by election? I said that whats fair for one should be fair for another, for the third time now? Can you not read? | | | |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 20:07 - Aug 14 with 730 views | positivity |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 18:49 - Aug 14 by BlueForYou |
Where did I say I was against a by election? I said that whats fair for one should be fair for another, for the third time now? Can you not read? |
you said makerfield was a waste of money. i took that as you being against it.
thanks for the clarification, that you're either all for wasting money or you've changed your mind! | |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 20:26 - Aug 14 with 705 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 17:27 - Aug 14 by BlueForYou |
Labour wasted money on the Makerfield election, which then meant a further election for Manchester Mayor. How much did that waste?? I'm not taking any sides, just saying that what's fair for one must then be fair for another. When I was outraged about Tory unelected PMs, so am I about this unelected Labour PM. Seems to me there are some extremely one eyed people on here. You can't have it both ways. |
Labour didn’t waste the money. The spend led to a new PM. You can argue that it shouldn’t have happened, but it wasn’t a waste. They got something for the money. The UK as a whole got something for it too - we got rid of the hapless Starmer.
Clacton meanwhile have the same MP they had before he stropped off because he didn’t like his rule breaking being investigated. And now it’s highly likely they’ll need yet another election if/when Farage is booted out.
From an independent perspective, the two situations are quite different. |  |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 04:56 - Aug 15 with 572 views | Benters |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 08:58 - Aug 14 by Dubtractor |
Because none of them have a sense of humour. |
None of them ? I look at binface and think how would I ever store water in that ! |  |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 06:42 - Aug 15 with 549 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 04:56 - Aug 15 by Benters |
None of them ? I look at binface and think how would I ever store water in that ! |
As I have said before, Benters, even though we are politically the opposite of each other, you take a lot of jokes at your expense, and sometimes more nasty direct attacks, with a lot more grace than most of us can muster. And then often respond with some good one-liners yourself.
I'm a bit worried you were up so early, though. I hope you are getting the rest you need. | | | |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 07:42 - Aug 15 with 492 views | Churchman |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 17:27 - Aug 14 by BlueForYou |
Labour wasted money on the Makerfield election, which then meant a further election for Manchester Mayor. How much did that waste?? I'm not taking any sides, just saying that what's fair for one must then be fair for another. When I was outraged about Tory unelected PMs, so am I about this unelected Labour PM. Seems to me there are some extremely one eyed people on here. You can't have it both ways. |
I agree with you. What is fair for one should be fair for another. The problem is this kind of messing about has gone on for years.
In my lifetime it started with the utterly useless Callaghan (Sunny Jim? Nasty piece of work according to a friend of mine who had dealings with him). Then we had Major coming in for Thatcher when she was kicked out. Blair/Brown. Then the farce of the Tories.- the staggeringly stupid, unelected Truss and Sunak. Who elected them? Now this farce with Starmer. And the sitting MP for Clacton @rsing about.
The basics as I understand them are that you elect your local MP. That person belongs to a party and if they’re the majority, a leader is invited to form a government. In theory, a party could select a new PM every month.
However, the reality is that in a GE people usually vote for a party rather than local MP so it seems to me the constitution and rules are in need of reform. Especially as I don’t believe FPTP is democratic.
Today politics is governed by deceit, lies, charisma, favours but not competence. Had competence been important or wanted, nobody would have wheeled in Truss who was known as an idiot and proved it many times. Today, we have slippery Labour trying to boost their popularity with Burnham. Squeezed into a constituency because of popularity. You cannot tell me amongst 100s of sitting MPs there wasn’t one that could do the job.
This week we had Farage doing Farage things. The cost? Well, both events cost the taxpayer (hard working) money, but who cares. There’s loads of that. It all feels wrong to me and has done so for decades. We’ve had rotten government.
Ideas: proportional representation. My vote is wasted here. A dogturd with a blue rosette gets in here. If you change leader for any reason you call an election. Tighter rules on expenses and anyone caught on the fiddle sacked and jailed. An end to tv in the HoC. It leads to electing shiny leaders with charisma but are crp. No solution really, just a desire for something better than what we’ve had.
Just thoughts. |  | | |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 08:26 - Aug 15 with 445 views | Dubtractor |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 04:56 - Aug 15 by Benters |
None of them ? I look at binface and think how would I ever store water in that ! |
To be fair to you benters, you do have a sense of humour about this and other similar stuff, you are not really the norm though. |  |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 09:17 - Aug 15 with 390 views | Benters |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 06:42 - Aug 15 by ArnoldMoorhen |
As I have said before, Benters, even though we are politically the opposite of each other, you take a lot of jokes at your expense, and sometimes more nasty direct attacks, with a lot more grace than most of us can muster. And then often respond with some good one-liners yourself.
I'm a bit worried you were up so early, though. I hope you are getting the rest you need. |
I’m always up around 4-5 I had 8 hours Kip last night
But it’s very nice of you to be concerned 🤓👍💪 | |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 09:19 - Aug 15 with 383 views | Benters |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 08:26 - Aug 15 by Dubtractor |
To be fair to you benters, you do have a sense of humour about this and other similar stuff, you are not really the norm though. |
No I’ve never been normal.
Normal is boring. | |
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 09:54 - Aug 15 with 331 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 09:19 - Aug 15 by Benters |
No I’ve never been normal.
Normal is boring. |
Better to be Abnormal for Essex than Normal for Norfolk! | | | |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 10:01 - Aug 15 with 312 views | Churchman |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 09:19 - Aug 15 by Benters |
No I’ve never been normal.
Normal is boring. |
What’s normal? Me, because I’m never wrong. As Mel Brooks once sang in History of the World Part 1:
Now get down people and listen to me
Gonna tell you how I made history
You can call me Louis, I'm the king of France
Check out my story while you do your dance
Now in seventeen hundred and eighty-nine
The peasants were starving, but I was fine
We were hanging out, down in old Versailles
That's the weekend pad of my Queen and I
In the alleys of Paris, they was eating rats
But it was filet mignon for the aristocrats
There were Dukes and Counts and Barons and Earls
I gave them the titles but I kept the girls
Blondes, redheads, wild brunettes
Ladies-in-waitin', I didn't wait to get
There was truffles for breakfast, toast for brunch
The line of the Folies Bergère for lunch
(Ooh yes, it's good to be the King)
(Ooh La La)
(Gee, but it's good to be the King)
Say it girls
(You can be sure about one thing)
(Ooh La La)
(Mais oui, it's good to be the king)
It's good to be the king | | | |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 10:01 - Aug 15 with 311 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 08:38 - Aug 14 by positivity |
because we don't want to end up like you lot with an imbecile trashing our country's reputation every single day! |
Think that message is lost on his voter [Post edited 15 Aug 10:05]
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| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 10:12 - Aug 15 with 285 views | balcombeblue |
| Farage bails on Clacton - again on 20:26 - Aug 14 by Swansea_Blue |
Labour didn’t waste the money. The spend led to a new PM. You can argue that it shouldn’t have happened, but it wasn’t a waste. They got something for the money. The UK as a whole got something for it too - we got rid of the hapless Starmer.
Clacton meanwhile have the same MP they had before he stropped off because he didn’t like his rule breaking being investigated. And now it’s highly likely they’ll need yet another election if/when Farage is booted out.
From an independent perspective, the two situations are quite different. |
The waste of money thing isn't really the worry in the grand scheme of things. I agree, I was just delighted to get rid of Starmer.
Having no talent among the 400 or so MPs (elected on a measly 33% of the vote) that could be put in charge is more damning.
I know you are reasonable Swansea, so if 33% led to a very different outcome in the Commons then the left would make the same complaints.
I wonder where the Farage investigation goes now. It will split people again. If he is cleared of wrongdoing there would be howls, if he isn't there will be howls. It's sometimes best to litigate against politicians who are in office or who have left as little as possible. I know people will hate that idea but it's one of those unwritten rules of democracy I suppose |  | | |
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