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Sunderland Starting 11 12:32 - Aug 21 with 1242 viewsunstableblue

Forum stating (2 posts):

Roefs
Meunier Mukiele Ballard Reinildo
Le Fée Xhaka Sadiki
Hume Brobbey Angulo

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Meunier Ballard O9 Ronaldino
Sadiki Xhaka Enzo
Hume Brobbey Talbi

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Roefs
Hume O'Nien Ballard Reinildo
Sadiki Xhaka
Talibi Le Fee Angulo
Brobbey

I have a blind spot for the Sunderland players, as in they were just an amorphous mass to me last season. Never rated Le Fee. And obvisouly have seen two champ centre backs and wouldn't say they are top level.

Assume Brobbey starting means Diopp has to start for us.

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Sunderland Starting 11 on 12:37 - Aug 21 with 1174 viewsVaughan8

I think Snderland are a good team for us to see how good we are currently.

Exceptyional year last year but I think they definitely overperformed.

STrangely, despite their 2 centre backs not looking great on paper, their defence was quite good last season (bar the odd game), though I don't think O'Nien played much did he?
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Sunderland Starting 11 on 12:39 - Aug 21 with 1154 viewsGarv

Sunderland Starting 11 on 12:37 - Aug 21 by Vaughan8

I think Snderland are a good team for us to see how good we are currently.

Exceptyional year last year but I think they definitely overperformed.

STrangely, despite their 2 centre backs not looking great on paper, their defence was quite good last season (bar the odd game), though I don't think O'Nien played much did he?


Someone can contradict me if wrong (I've not checked the stats) but from memory they seemed to win a lot of their home games and lose most away.

That away record and a touch of second season syndrome should bode well for us.

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Sunderland Starting 11 on 12:41 - Aug 21 with 1135 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Le Fee was good last season. Looks every bit a Prem player.

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I’m clinging onto this Vaughan: on 12:53 - Aug 21 with 1008 viewsunstableblue

Sunderland Starting 11 on 12:37 - Aug 21 by Vaughan8

I think Snderland are a good team for us to see how good we are currently.

Exceptyional year last year but I think they definitely overperformed.

STrangely, despite their 2 centre backs not looking great on paper, their defence was quite good last season (bar the odd game), though I don't think O'Nien played much did he?


(Whilst I do fear the Sunderland are going to be more settled than us and a cohesive unit, as their big squad rebuild was last summer). I am holding hope on two fronts

They got d!cked 5-0 by Forest and 3-0 by Brentford, and I think they have that in them when you consider their stats:

“Sunderland are the more extreme example of a team finishing far above what its underlying stats suggested.

Sunderland: 7th, 54 points vs 42.03 xPTS → +11.97 points.
Sunderland's xPTS suggested roughly 18th, meaning an extraordinary ~11-place overachievement.

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Sunderland Starting 11 on 12:55 - Aug 21 with 980 viewsLegendofthePhoenix

Sunderland Starting 11 on 12:39 - Aug 21 by Garv

Someone can contradict me if wrong (I've not checked the stats) but from memory they seemed to win a lot of their home games and lose most away.

That away record and a touch of second season syndrome should bode well for us.


They were 13th in the "away" table, so yes they were much better at home.
Away W5, D6 L8

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I’m clinging onto this Vaughan: on 13:14 - Aug 21 with 832 viewsNedPlimpton

I’m clinging onto this Vaughan: on 12:53 - Aug 21 by unstableblue

(Whilst I do fear the Sunderland are going to be more settled than us and a cohesive unit, as their big squad rebuild was last summer). I am holding hope on two fronts

They got d!cked 5-0 by Forest and 3-0 by Brentford, and I think they have that in them when you consider their stats:

“Sunderland are the more extreme example of a team finishing far above what its underlying stats suggested.

Sunderland: 7th, 54 points vs 42.03 xPTS → +11.97 points.
Sunderland's xPTS suggested roughly 18th, meaning an extraordinary ~11-place overachievement.


This is a big reason why the Sunderland model worries me slightly. They clearly over-performed massively last season but seem to be held up as the team to replicate in terms of signings.

To be honest I'm not entirely sure what the alternative would be, but I don't think Sunderland are quite the example people think they are
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I’m clinging onto this Vaughan: on 13:19 - Aug 21 with 788 viewsBlueBadger

I’m clinging onto this Vaughan: on 12:53 - Aug 21 by unstableblue

(Whilst I do fear the Sunderland are going to be more settled than us and a cohesive unit, as their big squad rebuild was last summer). I am holding hope on two fronts

They got d!cked 5-0 by Forest and 3-0 by Brentford, and I think they have that in them when you consider their stats:

“Sunderland are the more extreme example of a team finishing far above what its underlying stats suggested.

Sunderland: 7th, 54 points vs 42.03 xPTS → +11.97 points.
Sunderland's xPTS suggested roughly 18th, meaning an extraordinary ~11-place overachievement.


THREE POINTS THREE GOALS

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Sunderland Starting 11 on 13:29 - Aug 21 with 722 viewsBlue_Heath

Never rated Le Fee? Fair enough you are entitled to your opinion. He was excellent last year and that's the sort of comment that bites you on the @$$ come 5pm tomorrow.

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Sunderland Starting 11 on 13:47 - Aug 21 with 633 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

You can assume Diop will start every game for us if he’s fit.

Never rated Le Fee?! He was absolutely class last season.

They’ve had a few not play pre season at the back so yeah we might see a fee that played previously in the champ.

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I’m clinging onto this Vaughan: on 13:49 - Aug 21 with 622 viewsunstableblue

I’m clinging onto this Vaughan: on 13:19 - Aug 21 by BlueBadger

THREE POINTS THREE GOALS


Yes BB, yes

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Sunderland Starting 11 on 13:51 - Aug 21 with 614 viewsunstableblue

Sunderland Starting 11 on 13:29 - Aug 21 by Blue_Heath

Never rated Le Fee? Fair enough you are entitled to your opinion. He was excellent last year and that's the sort of comment that bites you on the @$$ come 5pm tomorrow.


Sorry BH - should probably have read - haven't seen enough of Le Fe to form a proper opinion, so I've lazily written never rated him

Hopefully Lukic and Florentino can keep him and Xhaka in check

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